IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2011-01-13

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pitillogood morning00:54
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juefrinnst: just curious, what's your reason to use procmail and not maildrop?03:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: ddrescue: 1.13 -> 1.1403:36
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: geany: updated to 0.2003:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: geany-plugins: updated to 0.2003:45
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frinnstjue: no reason really, ive just always used it05:42
juefrinnst: ok, thanks05:53
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jaegernipuL: what can I do to help?08:50
Romsteri'm going though my personal romster repo now is the time to request i update stuff ahead of the other ports or suggest inclusion into contrib.08:52
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: tcl: 8.5.8 -> 8.5.909:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: tk: 8.5.8 -> 8.5.909:40
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teK_dammit09:58
Rotwang18518518518518518510:00
Rotwangnice number10:01
teK_monsterlag..10:01
mrks:-)10:03
juethat's better:10:04
jueenv LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 printf "%'.7g\\n" 9999999.99610:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: cpuid: moved from romster repo10:05
jueglibc bug, btw10:05
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: dovecot: update to 2.0.910:14
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-evdev: updated to 2.6.0.11:54
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nipuLjaeger: race you to get a working multilib toolchain based on 2.7 :P16:30
jaegerI'd love to try but not sure how to get there, honestly16:31
jaegerhow did you do it originally? start with danm's stuff or something else?16:31
nipuLno idea how to bootstrap multilib, that might be an interesting project.16:44
nipuLi have a 2.6 multilib running on a vps, but kernel is tool old to rebuild glibc16:44
jaegerah, so you would do it from 2.6, then16:44
nipuLprobably, but i think i might investigate bootstrapping16:45
jaegerI'd really like to know how to bootstrap it properly16:48
nipuLi'm in a chicken and egg situation16:56
nipuLi don't know how to build a multilib gcc without first using a multilib gcc16:56
teK_I heard that glibc people say your supposed to use the one from your distro as you are not supposed to build it yourself m(16:57
jaegerwell, there's always CLFS, and I've looked into that before... the biggest thing odd about that was that they reversed the lib symlinks from what made sense to me16:58
nipuLlib/lib64 is actually the correct hierarchy17:00
nipuLi just used lib32/lib because it was easier17:00
jaegercorrect based on what, FHS?17:00
nipuLyeah17:00
jaegerok17:00
jaegerthe pure64 crux symlinks lib64 to lib17:02
jaegerlooks like ubuntu uses lib32 and lib64 is symlinked to lib, too17:03
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: nss: updated to 3.12.9.18:08
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: nspr: updated to 4.8.7.18:08
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andariussalutations and waffles18:33
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jaegeryay, waffles19:35
Romsteryou need to build a minimal gcc first without glibc support. then compile binutils and friends then compile glibc then recompile the full gcc. something along those lines.19:38
andariusmy waffles are much less complex ;)19:39
jaegerbinutils with multilib -> minimal gcc -> glibc with 32 and 64 bit libs -> full gcc or so/19:40
jaegerer so?19:41
Romsteryou might want to give crosstool-ng a go in my repo.19:41
Romsteri can't remember the exact steps.19:42
thrice`mm, the guy who did the slackware multilib (from scratch too) had a nice write-up someplace, but I can't seem to find it19:42
Romsterhttp://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib19:43
Romsterthat?19:43
Romstermaybe not.19:44
Romsterhttp://duckduckgo.com/?q=slackware+multilib bunch of stuff.19:44
jaegercrosstool-ng hasn't ever worked for me, though I love the idea of it19:45
andariusperhaps here ? http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/source/README19:46
andariusas to the slackware reference19:47
jaegerooh, nice find19:47
thrice`ah, yes19:47
jaegerhrmm, not much there, but interesting19:50
Romsternice will read over it later but as jaeger pointed out it looks a little slim19:51
Romsterah no that's not the from scratch way.19:51
Romsterhttp://cross-lfs.org/view/1.0.0/x86_64/19:55
Romsteralot of crap in there but i see this is the start of the cross-compile http://cross-lfs.org/view/1.0.0/x86_64/cross-tools/binutils.html19:58
Romsterback to work later.19:59
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