IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2011-04-18

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Romstergood evening and chicken02:48
ThePubgood morning and pasta03:22
Romsterpasta for breakfast?03:37
frinnstgreetings04:11
frinnsthttp://i.imgur.com/u3vOs.jpg04:16
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entehm04:35
enteI need to fix the installer to work with pxe04:36
enteit drops me off at a prompt04:36
entefrinnst: is this SFW? :D04:36
frinnstwell, its just a tree ffs!04:36
frinnst:)04:36
frinnstim not at work. had my appendix taken out during the night D;04:36
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: unison: update to 2.40.6304:37
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: libgphoto2: update to 2.4.1104:37
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gphoto2: update to 2.4.1104:37
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: acl: update to 2.2.5004:37
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: attr: update to 2.4.4504:37
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: curl: update to 7.21.504:37
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: sudo: update to 1.8.1p104:37
frinnstboom04:37
entehm :/04:38
entehow does the netinst thing work?04:39
entedoes it require the full iso as well?04:39
frinnstiirc, you need to have the packages handy somewhere so the full iso is probably needed04:43
entemeh04:46
enteguess I'll make my own initrd04:46
jueente: you've to provide the packages somewhere, wget is used to fetch them04:53
enteyeah04:54
entebut it does not even boot if I don't boot it from the iso04:54
enteit drops me off at the prompt and tells me to mount the media04:54
entewhich does not exist04:55
enteI boot via PXE and I'd prefer not to download the full CD04:55
enteI'd rather mount my packages cache via NFS or mount --bind it into my local ftp root so wget can load them04:55
enteunfortunately, the kernel on the CD is also missing NFS support04:56
entemeh meh meh04:56
enteguess I'll end up bootstrapping :/04:56
jueyou are using jaeger's updated-netinst.iso ?04:56
enteno, the default one04:56
juewhy do you think that you can do a netinst with the 'standard' iso?04:58
entewell, at least the initrd should drop me off at the setup and ignore if the packages can't be found, and expect me to fix it04:59
enteor is that again on a separate squashfs?05:00
enteah05:00
ente/crux.squashfs on the cdrom?05:01
jueI'd suggest to try that -> http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/files/updated-crux-iso/crux-2.7-updated-netinst.iso05:01
enteok05:01
enteit's still an iso ;)05:01
enteI don't see why it would rely on a medium being present, that's all05:02
enteeven in "vanilla", non-netinstall crux05:03
enteah, fuck this05:05
enteI better don't install anything on this box05:05
enteit's just time-consuming05:05
entewith very low benefits05:05
enteindependent of distribution05:05
frinnstwhat hardware?05:06
entep4, old nvidia graphics card so I'll first need to downgrade X05:06
frinnstno luck with nouveau?05:07
entenouveau fucking sucks hard05:07
enteit's so slow even with 2D05:07
frinnstbummer, long live ati \o/05:08
enteI have about 30 seconts of latency when moving a window05:08
frinnsti dont buy nvidia hardware anymore05:08
enteseconds*05:08
frinnstwow05:08
enteI don't see why people focus on optimising init, if they manage to break things so badly05:09
enteand then they go ahead and constantly keep breaking the Xorg ABI so no drivers will ever work again05:09
enteseriously05:10
entethe freedesktop people must be mad05:10
frinnstyeah05:10
frinnstusr mount deprecated \o/05:11
enteyep, and then that /run thing05:11
frinnsti dont mind a /run05:12
enteI wrote a reply mail to Michal, but I'm probably not going to send it05:12
frinnst:>05:12
enteyes, there's worse than /run :P05:12
entethey should just rename it /poettering and make /run a symlink to /poettering/run :P05:12
frinnstlol05:12
ente(poettering with oe as in Goethe)05:13
ente(because clearly he is the Goethe of Linux on the Desktop :P)05:13
entenah, this systemd isn't bringing anyone any step further05:13
enteif I was an nvidia dev, I'd probably send the driver source to wikileaks :P05:14
entedriver dev*05:14
frinnst:>05:14
entefor /run, I'm just tired of the endless discussion05:14
enteand uni is driving me mad05:15
enteI have lectures from 8-10, which means I need to get up at 5 AM05:16
enteand excercises 16-18:0005:16
ente8-12*05:16
enteso I'll just sit there for 4h05:16
entebecause driving home doesn't pay off05:16
entewhat the hell...05:17
ente*spam*05:17
frinnstbeats starring into the ceiling for half a day05:20
frinnsthospitals suck05:20
frinnststaring even05:21
enteeverything beats my way of studying05:26
enteI'd prefer having all my organs removed05:26
enteit feels like a perfect hell05:26
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entehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647959 yep07:49
ThePubRomster:  yes of course!  need your carbs early in the day :)09:14
ThePubente: sounds grueling!  think the worse time at uni for me was a 6week summer session taking calc 4 + binary logic, and working a part-time sysadmin position.  there was no time in the day to eat, sleep, or crap.09:17
thrice`calc 4?? :o09:19
enteactually, it's all dead trivial :)09:19
ThePubthrice`: I had googly eyes for a mathematics masters at one point.  really quite over my head, but it was fun trying :)09:19
enteyou are mad for even trying :P09:21
thrice`multi-variable calculus was our 'calc 3' , and I didn't go beyond that09:21
ThePubflunked calc 4 :)  taking any calculus in a compressed schedule is just stupid I've found out.09:22
entehaving a schedule is plain stupid09:24
thrice`really?  I kinda liked it.  it made sense to me, anyway, which made it enjoyable09:24
ThePubthe biggest issue was that there wasn't time for it to sink in.09:24
* ThePub is a rhuminator.09:25
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* ente is a procrastinator09:26
enteI procrastinate until after the exam :P09:26
thrice`yeah :-)  I'm also a mech. engineer for a living, so there's a good chance i'm just strange09:26
ThePubI rather like my plants (the green kind) but it doesn't stop me from experimenting in school still.  Nothing strange about enjoying the minds playground.09:28
entehm09:29
enteI'm not sure what I want to do09:29
enteclearly not CS09:29
ente:>09:29
enteI have been putting this off09:29
enteand it only hurts09:29
ThePub69% of all students have some sort of business degree (or something like that).  Clearly they're on to something!09:30
thrice`laziness? :p09:31
ThePubmost of them cheat too, so you're probably right.09:31
ThePub(at least in the United States)09:32
thrice`:-)09:34
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: mtools: updated to 4.0.1610:11
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: [notify] flash-player-plugin: updated to 10.2.159.110:11
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: floppyd: updated to 4.0.1610:18
cruxbot[xfce.git/2.7]: xfce4-xkb-plugin: updated to 0.5.4.011:01
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entehttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed14:02
enteo.O14:02
teK_holy...14:06
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ThePubtalking about taking it slow, over the last four days I've spent maybe 30 minutes building this crux install -- heh.  Off the notebook and back onto the desktop finally (i.e. text console that can use irssi)  ^_^19:45
joacimhack that gibson19:55
joacimbut dont burn out your blt drive19:55
ThePubsucks being busy :)19:57
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