IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2011-05-04

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pitillogood morning01:01
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entewow, I'm using poettering code02:33
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: subversion: updated to 1.6.1604:34
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: neon: updated to 0.29.604:34
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: sharutils: updated to 4.11.104:34
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: subversion-bashcompletion: updated to 1.6.1604:34
Romster[==>..................]  recovery = 14.9% (291195392/1953000404) finish=242.5min speed=114194K/sec04:34
Romsterfun, have to wait...04:34
Romsteri cna use it now but i'd only cause head thrashing and longer waits.04:35
Romstercan*04:35
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: p5-extutils-pkgconfig: fixed maintainer's email and cleaned up04:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]:  p5-extutils-pkgconfig: fixed footprint04:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: p5-glib: fixed footprint04:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: p5-extutils-depends: updated to 0.30404:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: p5-cairo: updated to 1.06204:51
Evil_Bobbtw mpd and libmpdclient can be version bumped05:02
cruxbot[xfce.git/2.7]: xfce4-wmdock-plugin: updated to 0.3.405:39
cruxbot[xfce.git/2.7]: libmpd: updated to 0.20.005:39
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teK_Evil_Bob: I'll look at it asap06:16
teK_thx06:16
Evil_Bobwelcome, major thing i noticed in mpd 0.16.x is it handles error much better (doesnt segfault :P)06:21
teK_:P06:21
Evil_Bobbtw i think i notice a problem with the new udev 168, somehow it doesnt wait for devices to settle i think06:21
Evil_Bobstart_udev invokes "udev_adm settle" though06:21
Evil_Bobif i add some "sleep 5" (eww) in /etc/rc it works06:22
teK_*sigh*06:22
Evil_Bobsorry :$06:22
teK_that's not your fault I suppose06:23
Evil_Bobyou know what the problem might be, or maybe manual steps i missed ?06:24
teK_not really06:25
teK_It's one part of linux that is sucky or annoying at least06:26
teK_another thing is that I use something like the following in my lilo.conf, nevertheless it won't boot if I switch Controller-Ports for my HDDs:06:27
teK_image=/boot/38.3 label=38.3 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/31296158-9dac-430f-ac03-dc439bd47301 read-only06:27
teK_whining about unknown superblocks + panicing (whihc is nice becaus ctrl-alt-del won't work to reboot)06:28
Evil_Boboh :D06:29
Evil_Bobill try udev 267 and compare the differences06:29
Evil_Bob*16706:30
teK_even windows 7 can handle switched HDDs06:30
Romsteri've noticed this with lilo if i switch the port that root is on.06:31
teK_the only 'static' reference I have is boot=/dev/sda which should only be of importance when /sbin/lilo is executed06:33
Romsteryeah to write the new boot loader.06:33
Evil_Bobi have: ro root=/dev/sda1, i use extlinux06:34
Romstereven then you could make a node called root or something to always point to the uuid?06:34
Romsterpoint is if your sda1 now becomes sdb1 will it boot Evil_Bob06:34
Evil_Bobprobably not :D06:34
Romsteri'm up to sdg on this box already.06:35
Evil_Bobi normally use /dev/disk/label, but its unlikely devices are added on this machine06:35
Romsterwonder if extlinux is any better at using uuid.06:36
Romsternot keen on how grub2 is bloated. and grub1 is pretty much dead for fixes and lilo is being worked on but it's still not gonna work with UUID's well.06:37
Evil_Bobudev 167 works fine, hmm06:45
Evil_Bobhmm seems udev 169 will be released soon, git version doesnt build for me though, guess i'll just use 167 for now :)06:58
frinnstyay, snow! \o/07:34
Evil_Boblolwat, frinnst which country do you live? :D07:34
laenAlaska!07:41
frinnstsweden07:56
thrice`it was 8.5C last night in my state (US) last night too.  quite annoying07:56
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slashbeastteK_: do you use initramfs?08:01
teK_no08:01
slashbeastI am pretty sure that disk-by-uuid and by-label need it.08:02
slashbeastkernel does not hande it at all08:02
slashbeastwell recent kernel have switch for uuids, let me check08:02
slashbeastI can't find it.08:03
slashbeastteK_: are you able boot it with such root=?08:03
slashbeastI had hard times with udev and uuids recently08:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: subversion-perl: updated to 1.6.1608:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: subversion-python: updated to 1.6.1608:06
teK_such root=?08:06
teK_i.e. /dev/sda3?08:06
slashbeastroot=/dev/disk/by-uuid/foo08:07
teK_no08:07
teK_13:27 < teK_> image=/boot/38.3 label=38.3 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/31296158-9dac-430f-ac03-dc439bd47301 read-only08:07
slashbeastthat is what I thought.08:07
slashbeastbusybox into initramfs can handle it. I use busybox's 'findfs' select proper device by UUID and LABEL08:08
ephemerosshould the bugs regarding 64bit ISO/installer be reported on the main bugtracker?08:14
ephemerosx86_64 I mean08:14
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frinnstephemeros: you can just tell me11:19
frinnstwhats up?11:19
ephemerosfrinnst: the installer of the v2.7-2 fails with a message "are you sure you want to abort?" - or something, let me check again11:20
frinnstuh11:22
ephemerosfrinnst: so I do the normal installation and select _all_ package sets - it does not fail selecting only core and x, for example11:22
ephemerosor core + opt, for that matter11:22
frinnstso, only when you select all?11:22
ephemerosyes...11:23
frinnstdoes it install anything? or just exits directly?11:23
ephemerosno, a dialog appears whether you really want to abort installation,11:23
frinnstlol, ok11:23
frinnstwhat iso are you using?11:23
ephemerosselecting "yes", the dialog appears again, selecting "no" it exits as expected11:24
frinnstah, crux-2.7-x86_64-2.iso ?11:24
ephemeroscrux-2.7-x86_64-2.iso11:24
ephemerosyes11:24
ephemerosand btw, I'm doing this in QEmu11:24
frinnstok, i have not tested an install with that one11:24
frinnstjust made sure it booted11:24
ephemerosok11:24
ephemerosthe previous version works, btw11:25
frinnstok11:25
ephemeros(tried crux-2.7-x86_64-hybrid.iso)11:25
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InDigo176I installed crux-2.7-x86_64-2.iso last a couple of days ago (in VirtualBox), and it worked13:06
InDigo176-last13:06
thrice`ephemeros, you did the first steps, like making sure the destination was mounted to /mnt ?13:07
ephemerosthrice`: yes, create, format and mount in /mnt13:08
ephemerosInDigo176: did you check all the packages?13:08
ephemerosI mean check for installation13:08
InDigo176all in core, not opt. Maybe that's the problem then13:09
ephemerosyeah, with one of x and opt unchecked works for me, too13:09
InDigo176oh, now I see that you already wrote that, sorry =)13:10
ephemerosnp :)13:10
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frinnsthttp://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222715_10150230638876042_575786041_8498960_7056612_n.jpg14:55
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Evil_Bobfrinnst: lol15:08
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