IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2011-05-23

veewhats java's package name in crux?00:45
InDigo176opt/jre and opt/jdk00:55
veeprt-get get install jre does nothing01:03
veeim sure im doing it wrong though01:03
veeprt-get install feh01:05
veenvm that worked xD01:05
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entev try depinst instead of install02:28
entewhatever02:28
teK_hello02:32
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: xz: update to 5.0.302:34
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: vim: update to 7.3.19802:34
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: apache: update to 2.2.1902:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: clex: update to 4.6.402:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gvim: update to 7.3.19802:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: swig: update to 2.0.402:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: tgif: update to 4.2.302:35
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ThePubI'm kind of having a strange problem recently and it's beyond my insignificant self to solve it ;)12:44
ThePubthe /sys mount doesn't always remount during startup.  instead it claims to be busy.12:45
ThePubthe result is that if X starts there is no mouse/keyboard.  although if X does not start it works fine at the console, until X starts.12:45
ThePubit's sporadic, not consistent that during startup there will be a error that /sys is busy.12:46
ThePubI was thinking it was line 54 of /etc/rc causing the error.  although I don't have a clue why it should be "busy" at that point.  it's the only time in the whole startup process where that is remounted that I can tell.12:49
ThePubI'm just using the rc scripts from "rc"12:49
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LukcThePub, topic?13:11
ThePubyes, and I use evdev for both.  so how does it apply?13:13
ThePubthese two issues seem to be related though. if /sys gives the error then the kb/mouse does not work, if there is no error on startup it works. root manually remounting /sys "solves" it until restart and the game of chance starts again.  :)13:15
jseThere were some posts on that issue at the mailing list last year.13:28
jseCan't recall if it was some util-linux or udev issue.13:30
jseThe fix itself was to remount /sys in /etc/rc.13:30
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ThePubsuppose it wasn't completely beyond me.  after adding "sleep 1" after line 52 of /etc/rc the problem has "resolved" itself.14:30
ThePubseems kludgy but maybe it's something related to the kernel recompile I did recently -- although that's not when the issue started.14:31
veejaeger did soemthing similiar to my computer. it was having issues loading something O.o14:34
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sepenhey14:42
ThePubggood evening14:42
ThePubmy ffingers stutter, ssorry.14:43
sepenheh14:44
sepentilman: http://d536f2faf50e736c.paste.se/ I got this footmismatch compiling mesa3d on my x86_6414:45
entehttp://paste.xinu.at/BTlk/plain14:45
enteed, meet ed14:45
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frinnstsepen: yeah i know. really old crap that will never exist on x86_64 (agp/isa?)15:52
frinnstmesa3d is the only package that has different footprints on 64bit, i have just ignored the issue until now :)15:53
frinnst...only package from xorg15:53
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entewe really should switch to systemd16:38
ThePubwhat's it do better?16:45
entethen gnome will continue to run on ctux16:47
entecrux*16:47
enteseriously,  linux is fucked16:48
jaegerah well, back to windows!16:48
enteno, I'll rather leave computing to the monkeys :P16:49
ente~[29~\16:49
ente~[29~.,16:49
ThePubthere's always bsd :)16:49
enteI already run NetBSD on my other laptop16:49
entewill eventually start hacking around and improving the driver situation16:50
enteand maybe participate in next year's GSoC16:50
enteI was asked to take part this year but I fucked up -- as usual16:50
ThePubcut the tip of my thumb off.  sucks typing.16:57
enteouch16:57
entehow did that happen?16:57
jaegerI did that to my pinky about 15 years ago, NOT fun16:57
ThePubsensitive stuff our fingers16:58
ThePubit's been a week and it still smarts to rub it against stuff unexpectedly.16:58
entesensitive stuff, us humans16:59
sepenfrinnst: I've a sis card so I'll try to get more info about16:59
ThePubente: idk, I know some people that might make you rephrase that!  ^_^17:00
entehm?17:00
ThePubemotionally dulled.  then again, that's probably better than the opposite.  (all tongue-in-cheek).17:01
entefuck them17:03
entereality is so fucking hard to bear17:03
enteI want my drugs17:03
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* ThePub sighs17:45
ThePubpkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org appears to be down17:45
ThePubwow, debian has really changed their homepage17:49
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ThePubhmm18:24
ThePubdoes xorg require input-mouse and input-keyboard or is it possible to only compile input-evdev?18:25
thrice`evdev should do all of what you need18:26
ThePubwill see how bad I can screw things up then :)18:39
frinnstevdev should be enough18:41
frinnsti dont think i have keyboard and mouse installed18:41
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nthwyatt\quit21:14
nthwyattoops21:14
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Romsteri've removed mouse and keyboard and purely use evdev, so yes.21:53
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