IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2011-07-07

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jseseanw: it most likely stores said values. Unfortunately I'm not that savy with texlive yet.04:36
jseGot it working but I'm not using crux's ports system to maintain it.04:37
sepenwow!, I want one of this, I can not imagine a creature of these flying the streets of Valencia ;D04:40
frinnstHere at we make and design radio controlled airplanes that look and fly like real fictional superheroes.04:45
frinnst"like real fictional superheroes"04:45
Romsterwell that's unique04:48
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sepenI want one of this with a cape like superman04:52
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: feh: 1.14.1 -> 1.14.207:21
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: bind: 9.8.0-P2 -> 9.8.0-P4 fixes CVE-2011-2464 and CVE-2011-246507:21
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: vala: 0.13.0 -> 0.13.107:21
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: openvpn: 2.2.0 -> 2.2.107:23
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seanwjse, afaict it doesn’t store that value, so I think I’ve managed to make a package :-)  Will make the pkgfile available at some point/09:12
seanwAnyone done an install of any parts of the gnome repository recently?  Is it massively out of date?  I can’t make anything from there install :(09:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: skipfish: 2.00b -> 2.02b09:27
sepenseanw: give us an example09:48
seanwsepen, evince, gnome-themes (cos of docbook-xsl) are the two I’ve had fail on me so far.09:49
sepenseanw: I'm using some parts from gnome as listed in my mpup.lst file:
seanwsorry I just realised several other packages aren’t in the gnome repo, sorry.09:49
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: sshfs-fuse: update to 2.309:50
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: stunnel: update to 4.3909:50
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: tgif: update to 4.2.509:50
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: transmission: update to 2.3209:50
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: transmission-gtk: update to 2.3209:50
seanwAh p5-xml-simple too, I had to hack them.09:50
sepenseanw: there're some other collections for this port:
sepenmaybe someone could fit your needs09:51
seanwOkay thanks, I shall try a few of those.09:52
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: keyutils: initial release09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: nfs-utils: update to 1.2.4, new dependency opt/keyutils09:57
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: gawk: update to 4.0.009:59
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: evilwm: removed obsolete patch10:17
sepensee ya'10:49
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: mercurial: 1.8.4 -> 1.911:23
seanwDoes anyone else think that crux’s fonts in GTK applications aren’t very sharp?  Is my mind playing tricks on me?11:24
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enteGOD DAMNIT11:29
entehow can anyone work using ubuntu11:29
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lunarvalleysseanw, what anti-aliasing are you using?11:54
lunarvalleysi had to tweak .fonts in my home directory to get the settings right. Using E17...11:54
lunarvalleysi meant .fonts.conf11:57
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Rotwangwesnoth anyone?12:00
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frinnstente: its far superior to anything gnome/kde based these days12:31
frinnstatleast on my eeepc12:31
entehow do you bear with not being able to copypaste like normal? ;/12:33
frinnsthuh, didnt notice12:33
frinnstalthough ive only had it installed for a day or so and not used it much :)12:34
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Rotwangfor fucks sake13:31
RotwangI just updated to ff513:31
Rotwangclicked tab groups13:31
Rotwangclecked some other button13:32
Rotwangand lost ALL FUCKING TABS!!13:32
thrice`was the button "close all fucking tabs" ?  :)13:33
treachif it's a big problem, perhaps you should to less nsfw surfing. :p13:34
Rotwangfuck fuck fuck13:37
Rotwangit won't bring back my tabs13:37
Rotwangat least not all of them13:37
RotwangI managed to get my session back13:40
enteso much better than ubuntu :P13:40
Rotwangente: which os is thic? workbench?13:41
entetwm on NetBSD 5.113:41
Rotwangif I had some more time I would do something like that with my desktop13:42
* treach whishes they'd make an effort with it's packaging. 13:59
entetreach: hm?14:01
treachI haven't really used it for a long time, I think I dropped it around 2.0 or something, but more or less having to keep the entire source tree around and using cvs to keep it "patched" seems terribly antiquidated, IMO14:03
ente... unless you actually work with the source14:03
entewhich most of the NetBSD people do :)14:04
entewhich is one of the reason why it's fun14:04
treachit's a bit of a pity though, it's a neat litte system for people tired of linux, but I for one at least, isn't really interested in starting to hack at it.14:05
entemaybe freebsd is better for you?14:08
entebinary updates and no need to keep the source tree around14:08
treachprobably. that wasn't really the point though.14:08
* thrice` sees no reason to run bsd over linux14:09
treachLart. :>14:09
enteit's funny14:10
enteactually, everything works out of the box on my thinkpad on netbsd14:10
enteon linux, it doesn't14:10
enteeither it doesn't, or the system is smarter than me and doesn't let me tweak it14:10
thrice`what doesn't work?14:10
treachaye, I had it on my laptop as well, an R40. Never had a problem with it, other than the management overhead14:10
entemight be the fact that I'm running linux on an eee and netbsd on a thinkpad :P14:11
entewhich is a bit like comparing apples and pears, but nevertheless, the fn-keys worked out of the box on netbsd14:11
enteincluding suspend to ram14:12
treachI'm not sure, but I think that might be because netbsd uses apm, and modern linuxes would use acpi14:12
enteno, NetBSD uses acpi as well14:12
treachah, ok.  as I said, it's been a while :p14:13
entewell, it's not 1992 *all* over :P14:13
entejust a bit 1992 here and there14:13
enteI went with NetBSD this time because I didn't know which linux distribution to use14:14
entealso, the community is great, much like as for crux14:15
* ente is talking too much again ~.~14:15
entetreach: on the other hand, you keep the sourcecode around for crux as well14:17
entedoesn't really matter if you check it out from CVS or extract it from tarballs14:17
enteCVS is a bit more flexible in some regard, and there were attempts to switch to another VCS14:17
jseTrue, it can be cleaned though.14:18
entebut they don't do tagging the same way14:18
entejse: cleaned?14:18
jseYes. As in removed.14:18
entesame for BSD14:18
treachwell, I'd say there's a difference between downloading small bits of the system and then throwing out the junk when you're done, compared to having to more or less keep a huge (comparatively) monolithic lump around all the time, most of which never sees any action anyway.14:19
jseente: Nice twm desktop14:19
enteit's not like a git repository14:19
entethere's just a working copy with a few CVS subdirectories14:19
enteit's not like the whole history of every NetBSD version ever is on your disk14:20
entebecause that would be the case with git14:20
ente... and pretty fucking stupid, imo14:20
enteso this wasn't against CVS but rather against having the source code in /usr/src?14:21
treachgit is afaik quite a bit smarter than that. but that's still beside the point. I'd still need the code for _netbsd_ if I wanted to patch "ls"14:21
enteno, that's the nice thing about cvs14:21
enteyou can check out single modules, there's absolutely no need to keep everything14:21
entefor instance, I only have my port from pkgsrc-wip around, the other ones are somewhere at sourceforge :)14:22
treachok. that mitigates it a bit I guess. I haven't really used anything like that for years so I guess I'm just rambling from my faint recollections. Feel free to ignore at will. :)14:23
enteeven if git does fancy compression, it will always be larger than just a working copy14:23
entethe default is to check out everything, so it's not entirely unjustified :)14:24
enteit really does feel oldfashioned sometimes14:25
entefor instance the upgrading procedure for packages isn't entirely clear to me14:25
enteit involves doing much more by hand than elsewhere14:26
ente"ports are nice, but where is my prt-get"-ish :P14:26
treachright. :P14:26
teK_ente: you use far too much colors :>
jaeger <-- dual head twm is the shit14:28
thrice`aaw, why the ":(" in your prompt? :)14:28
teK_because the previous command failed14:29
teK_ie $? was != 014:29
thrice`ah, ok.  I like the status thing :)  neat14:29
teK_it's a nice gimmick ;)14:30
teK_for ZSH users: PROMPT=$'%n@%m %0(3c,%c,%~) %0(?,%{\e[0;32m%}:%),%{\e[0;31m%}:(%s)%b %# '14:31
enteteK_: again apples and pears; that's not your IRC client :P14:34
enteI find these ":(" annoying14:35
entemy usual prompt is "\h \w \$", \h being in one unique colour per host14:35
teK_it doesn't hurt if set as RPROMPT (if your shell supports this)14:36
enteteK_: <- this one is annoying though14:39
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ente hm.15:35
prologic_yay/nay / :)15:49
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qid[MOE]hmm, looks like named.root got updated, someone will have to rev the .md5sum for contrib/bind16:37
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slashbeastdid any of you build a system on uclibc ever?17:39
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