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| prologic | heya all | 03:02 |
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| prologic | can anyone lend a hand with wifi ? | 03:02 |
| prologic | I can't get this linux box associated with my ap (using wpa security) | 03:02 |
| Romster | i tried last time | 03:03 |
| prologic | it scans and lists the ap just fine | 03:03 |
| captain | Hmm, would try.. but I haven't set up wifi on crux.. | 03:03 |
| prologic | throw some ideas at me guys :) | 03:03 |
| prologic | I've been struggling with this for a few days :/ | 03:03 |
| Romster | if i used a wifi card i might have an idea... | 03:04 |
| captain | is there a gui util you're using, or from command line? | 03:04 |
| captain | ..bah, why is my nick wrong again? | 03:05 |
| prologic | straight cli | 03:05 |
| prologic | using iwconfig | 03:05 |
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| prologic | (no GUI on this box yet) | 03:05 |
| prologic | (I believe it's a problem with the way I've configured WPA with wpa_suplicant) | 03:05 |
| prologic | I think | 03:05 |
| CaptLloyd | ahh yeah | 03:05 |
| CaptLloyd | so you got that far :) | 03:05 |
| prologic | yes of course :) | 03:05 |
| prologic | I'm not entirely stupid! hehe | 03:06 |
| prologic | just yeah still haven't successfully got it associatged ;/ | 03:06 |
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| mrks | and whats the problem? | 03:07 |
| mrks | how do you run wpa_supplicant? | 03:07 |
| CaptLloyd | you could try to connect to a wired network, ssh with X11 forwarding, run the wpa_supplicant gui util :-) | 03:08 |
| prologic | umm | 03:09 |
| prologic | no :) | 03:09 |
| prologic | as nice as that would be I haven't even got X working yet | 03:09 |
| prologic | when I try to run wpa_suplicant, I get "Operation Not Permitted" | 03:10 |
| prologic | wpa_suplicant -B -D wext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa.conf | 03:10 |
| prologic | as stated in the README | 03:10 |
| mrks | do you get a more specific message without -B? | 03:11 |
| mrks | is wext the correct driver for your wifi hardware? dunno if there are other drivers these days.. just remember a madwifi option or so.. | 03:12 |
| prologic | yeah these are things I'm not so sure about tbh | 03:12 |
| mrks | so what chip do your card have? | 03:13 |
| prologic | the hw is a Realtek 8172 onboard wifi card | 03:13 |
| prologic | using the 8192se driver | 03:13 |
| prologic | hmm | 03:14 |
| prologic | without -B it's timing out | 03:14 |
| prologic | wuth is timing out | 03:14 |
| mrks | and you have set up an entry for your network with wpa_passphrase essid secretkey >> configfile? | 03:15 |
| prologic | yeah I have | 03:18 |
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| mrks | don't know then, sorry.. always worked for me like that | 03:19 |
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| prologic | I'm not even sure what driver to use for this chipset | 03:22 |
| prologic | with wpa_supplicant -D ... | 03:22 |
| mrks | i think wext is the correct option for most cards | 03:23 |
| mrks | does your card need a firmware blob and if so is it loaded? | 03:24 |
| prologic | yes it does require a firmware blob | 03:25 |
| prologic | is it loaded ? - no idea | 03:25 |
| prologic | how do I check ? | 03:25 |
| mrks | dmesg should print a line I think | 03:26 |
| mrks | maybe it gets listed also when you do a `modinfo yourmodule` | 03:30 |
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| jue | morning | 03:55 |
| Ovim-Obscurum | Morning everyone! | 04:00 |
| Ovim-Obscurum | Someone of you tried lcd4linux? :) | 04:00 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.7]: ruby: update to 1.9.2-p290 | 04:10 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.7]: ruby-doc: update to 1.9.2-p290 | 04:10 |
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| cruxbot | [core.git/2.7]: nasm: update to 2.09.10 | 04:12 |
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| jue | looks like a serious file-system comparison -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_large&num=1 | 06:16 |
| jue | nice to see that jfs still plays well in most cases, particularly with ssd drives | 06:17 |
| ente | why ssd drives? | 06:39 |
| jue | ente: did you read the article? | 06:44 |
| ente | it mostly shows impressive graphs, I think | 06:46 |
| ente | it doesn't explain why jfs is faster | 06:46 |
| ente | either that, or I've overlooked it | 06:46 |
| jue | well, it explains nothing, only shows the results ;) | 06:47 |
| ente | meh ;) | 06:47 |
| ente | I wonder how ext2 compares to the others | 06:47 |
| ente | and also some of the BSD fses | 06:47 |
| Romster | i've had badluck coruption with JFS in the past when the power has gone out in the middle of a write. when it's not clean it does not force a fsck. | 06:50 |
| Romster | and it wont mount... at another time it was corrupt and fsck could not repair it. so be warned. | 06:51 |
| ente | I've always been using ext3 and I see no reason to switch | 06:52 |
| ente | especially not in that chart :P | 06:52 |
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| Romster | i haven't even moved to ext4 yet/ ext3 is serving me well. | 06:54 |
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| ente | I don't have great I/O on my laptop disks, so it doesn't actually matter | 06:55 |
| ente | maybe on a server | 06:55 |
| frinnst | fucking phoronix.. cant even tell the difference between ext4 and jfs | 06:57 |
| frinnst | nice colourscheme | 06:57 |
| frinnst | its nice to see he doesnt do mp3 encoding in his fs-benchmarks this time atleast | 06:59 |
| ente | :D | 07:03 |
| jue | Romster: never had any problems with jfs, but right, you've to set the fith/sixth field in fstab to 1 for jfs | 07:13 |
| Romster | it was 1 in the auto fsck. | 07:37 |
| Romster | you probably never had the power go out at some critical point on a JFS system yet. or they fixed it to it wont do what it did to me. both copies of the filesystem allocation tables were shot. | 07:38 |
| jue | probably, one the other hand I'm using jfs on my old laptop which is used to test new things. I had lot of crashes there, but didn't noticed something serious like you. | 07:43 |
| Romster | probably just a freak thing. | 07:45 |
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| seanw | Hey all. I have a few patched versions of packages, so I have renamed them: cairo-cleartype instead of cairo, for example. But of course this breaks prt-get’s dependency resolution. What’s the cleanest way of doing it? Just call my packages the same names? | 10:24 |
| ente | yep | 10:27 |
| ente | make a local ports collection in /usr/ports/locla | 10:27 |
| ente | and make it take precedence in prt-get.conf | 10:28 |
| ente | at least this has always worked for me | 10:29 |
| seanw | That’s what I did, but it doesn’t seem right to have the same package name when it’s a heavily patched package. | 10:29 |
| ente | why not, it's still the same application, right? | 10:29 |
| ente | broken deps are not worth it, and imo it works well enough in practice | 10:30 |
| ente | of course you could do the deps by hand ;/ | 10:30 |
| seanw | heh alright | 10:32 |
| Romster | edit /var/lib/pkg/prt-get.aliases and add your port as an alias | 10:50 |
| Romster | be sure to add that file to /etc/pkgadd.conf else changes will be gone should you ever reinstall/update prt-get. | 10:51 |
| Romster | seanw, ^ | 10:51 |
| ente | that's even more cumbersome, but maybe cleaner | 10:53 |
| seanw | Romster, great, thanks. The reason I desire cleanness is cos I want to publish this repo. | 10:55 |
| Romster | nice to see more contributors, i hope they all arn't patched ports of existing ones :) | 11:04 |
| ente | I might contribute a bit less ;( | 11:05 |
| ente | I'm getting involved with NetBSD | 11:05 |
| * Romster gives ente a stern look | 11:05 | |
| ente | I realised that linux is FUBAR | 11:06 |
| Romster | funny i seem to get that impression but i keep persisting thinking it'll get better it's all community driven if someone hates something fork it. | 11:07 |
| ente | BSD rocks in terms of developing software for it | 11:08 |
| ente | http://paste.xinu.at/e3B/ this is all I need to compile a program | 11:08 |
| tilman | "fuck, sigtimedwait() isn't supported!? *rage*" | 11:08 |
| tilman | yeah, it's so much fun developing for ancient unixes | 11:09 |
| ente | I'm not on 4.3BSD | 11:09 |
| tilman | that makefile is cute, but i don't think build systems are the most important point ;) | 11:10 |
| ente | the rest is similar :p | 11:10 |
| seanw | Romster, no, most are fresh ports :-) | 11:10 |
| ente | tilman: http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?sigtimedwait++NetBSD-current | 11:11 |
| ente | apparently, it is supported | 11:11 |
| tilman | i was referring to osx | 11:11 |
| tilman | which is argueably a bsd flavor | 11:11 |
| ente | ah, OS X counts as ancient UNIX indeed | 11:12 |
| ente | Mach/FreeBSD 4.0 | 11:12 |
| ente | slow/old | 11:12 |
| ente | :P | 11:12 |
| Romster | seanw, nice to know. | 11:13 |
| ente | according to schmorp, poll(2) is broken on OS X, kqueue isn't even implemented and select(2) has arbitrary limits | 11:13 |
| Romster | i sense a flame war and i'm off to sleep, work later :/ | 11:14 |
| Romster | but the mac fans love OS X | 11:14 |
| Romster | they don't care about that they still throw monies at it. | 11:14 |
| Romster | i wont touch anything mac other than that old mac classic || and the apple 2e i have here. | 11:15 |
| Romster | later | 11:15 |
| ente | see ya | 11:15 |
| ente | oh shit | 11:15 |
| ente | it's 18:15 | 11:15 |
| ente | it feels like 12:00 | 11:15 |
| ente | time for lunch :P | 11:16 |
| Ovim-Obscurum | I know that ente | 11:17 |
| Ovim-Obscurum | :D | 11:17 |
| ente | nom nom | 11:47 |
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| * frinnst just ordered a i7 with 16gig ram \o/ | 12:47 | |
| teK_ | \o/ | 12:47 |
| teK_ | AES-NI? | 12:47 |
| frinnst | ? | 12:48 |
| teK_ | does it have AES-NI? | 12:49 |
| frinnst | ah | 12:49 |
| frinnst | dunno | 12:49 |
| frinnst | Intel® Core(TM) i7 2600K | 12:49 |
| teK_ | http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Processor-(8M-Cache-3_40-GHz) says Yes | 12:50 |
| teK_ | Intel® HD Graphics 3000 Processor Graphics.. hm | 12:51 |
| frinnst | yeah, redundant crap | 12:52 |
| frinnst | the mb i bought doesnt support it :) | 12:52 |
| teK_ | Nice. That + 12MB Cache as my current Core2 Quad and I'd buy it :-> | 12:52 |
| teK_ | which vendor? | 12:52 |
| frinnst | mb? asus | 12:52 |
| teK_ | k | 12:53 |
| frinnst | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8P67_DELUXE/#specifications | 12:53 |
| frinnst | time to prepare a kernel for the beast :> | 12:53 |
| teK_ | I have always had problems with ASUS mbs so no asus for me again. evaaar | 12:54 |
| frinnst | oh? ive never had any problems | 12:54 |
| teK_ | they had three chances | 12:55 |
| teK_ | starting with the ASUS K7V for AMD Thunderbirds (iirc) | 12:55 |
| teK_ | asrock is ok though :> | 12:56 |
| teK_ | c | 12:58 |
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| frinnst | asrock is owned by asus iirc :) | 13:23 |
| treach | taiwanese businesses.. It's a spin-off from Asus. | 13:24 |
| treach | it's like buying asus, afaic, but QA is a bit... spotty. :> | 13:26 |
| frinnst | http://www.kickassgear.com/Reviews/AsusK7V.htm | 13:26 |
| frinnst | lol | 13:26 |
| frinnst | ahh, via-chip | 13:27 |
| frinnst | thats where you went wrong :) | 13:27 |
| treach | I don't think there's a lot of manufacturers left for socket A chipset, if any. Presumeably they got hold of a huge pile of unsold via stuff... | 13:29 |
| teK_ | frinnst: yes that's the funny twist in it ;) | 13:30 |
| frinnst | --rw-r--r-- root/root usr/include/curl/types.h | 13:32 |
| frinnst | hmm, latest curl broke firefox? | 13:32 |
| frinnst | andybody with curl 7.21.7 installed who wants to attempt a firefox rebuild? | 13:39 |
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| teK_ | not on this laptop. | 13:53 |
| frinnst | ah, nevermind | 13:59 |
| frinnst | its an issue with the bugreporter thingy, which we dont use anyways | 13:59 |
| frinnst | forgot to disable it in my experimental build | 14:00 |
| teK_ | bugreporting utility causing bugs, heh. | 14:22 |
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