IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2011-07-19

pitillogood morning00:58
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frinnstwell said02:56
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: xterm: updated to 27104:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: floppyd: updated to 4.0.1704:18
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: virtualbox: updated to 4.0.1204:18
frinnstfloppyd <304:23
sepenfrinnst: it was originally part of mtools04:24
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: portdbc: initial import04:44
frinnstnice util sepen04:47
sependid you try it?04:55
frinnstyeah, just a quick search04:55
frinnsti reckon its useful04:56
sepenyeah, I started to work on a tool like that some years ago (FS#175)04:59
pitillo<3 sepen ... finally inside :)05:03
sepenat least after re-write them in C I improved time operations
pitilloummmm great :)05:05
cruxbot[xfce.git/2.7]: libisofs: updated to 1.1.205:26
teK_I've been using sepen's for years :->05:59
sepenhehe, teK_ I'm sure portdbc works better06:00
teK_you are awesome ;)06:00
sepenlibxml works like a charm06:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: getmail: 4.20.3 -> 4.20.406:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: freeciv: 2.2.5 -> 2.2.706:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: vlc: 1.1.10 -> 1.1.1106:30
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jaeger@seen nipul09:52
clbjaeger: nipul was last seen in #crux 22 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <nipuL> not my fucking problem09:52
ente@seen jaeger10:03
clbente: jaeger was last seen in #crux 11 minutes and 40 seconds ago: <jaeger> @seen nipul10:03
ente@seen clb10:03
clbente: I have not seen clb.10:03
tilmanany uzbl users in here?10:05
Romsteri forget the context of nipuL was talking aobut then..10:05
Romsteri've only fired up uzbl a few times.10:06
tilmanim currently trying vimprobable, and wondering how these two compare10:07
tilmanuzbl does have a vim-like interface right?10:07
entepentadactyl does, I think10:07
tilmansure, pentadactyl == vimperator10:08
tilmanwhich is the mother of all vim-like browsers, no?10:08
tilmanin spirit at least10:08
enteand xxxterm, and jumanji10:08
enteno idea about uzbl, but iirc it was customisable10:08
Romstermore like a GUI with right click menu than a vim like command line in it.10:09
* tilman rolleyes10:09
enteall these browsers...10:09
tilmanvimproble running in tabbed is kind of ok10:09
thrice`i didn't understand uzbl10:09
* Romster just fired up a git origin/master and compiled uzbl.10:09
tilmanonly today i've learned that uzbl is pronounced "usable"10:09
tilmannever got that pun before10:09
RomsterUzbl - web interface tools which adhere to the unix philosophy.10:10
thrice`I didn't get the separate core / front-end or whatever10:10
Romsteruzbl is supposedly more scriptable.10:11
enteah, pentadactyl is a vimperator fork10:12
entesorry :P10:12
tilmanthat's how i understood it10:12
tilmanpenta* is developed by the original vimperator guys10:12
entebecause vimperator sucks since ff410:12
enteI assume that's why10:13
tilmanoh well10:13
tilmanmaybe it's a fork after al10:13
Romsteractually while on the subject of browsers is there any cut down javascript to decode the write lines obfuscation stuff in some html pages?10:14
Romsternamely sourceforge currently.10:15
Romsterprobably something that can use webkit i supose.10:15
tilmani don't understand your question :>10:16
tilmanare you looking for an js-deobfuscator?10:16
Romsterdocument.write and other such methods of obfuscating href links.10:18
Romsterto de-obfuscate10:19
Romstertidy cleans up dirty html but wont decode javascript buried hrefs, i'm probably looking at something too complex.10:20
Romsterspeffically soruceforge uses a javascript var net.sf.files = {} with the data and then a script to write out the html. parsing for the hrefs skips all that.10:22
Romstersome jQuery function.10:23
Romsterdoens't appear to look like AJAX even.10:23
Romsternevermind i probably could hack something up to grep them out.10:27
Romstergreat more spam on the ML....10:32
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enteisn't it possible to moderate unsubscribed people/first posts to the list?11:07
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seanwWebsite down?12:18
sillyhattomato cow?12:19
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frinnstseanw: looks like it12:50
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frinnstsweet, 250mb of 16gig ram used13:53
jaegerman, install some VMs or windows or something13:56
jaegerI'm managing to use 11G right now but I've got several VMs going :D13:57
jaegerI tested the USB stick last night on a machine at home, it booted but stuck on "recursive loop modprobe binfmt-464c" or something similar14:02
jaegerprogress, I suppose, though it still wasn't usable14:03
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frinnsthas anyone else tested?14:16
frinnstmaybe youre just cursed or something :)14:16
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jaegerjust you and me so far14:33
jaegerPretty busy with work this week but hoping to get more time to test it soon14:33
frinnstRomster: when doing a "prt-get depinst firefox" on 64bit, mesa3d is included in the deps, but not on 32bit14:54
frinnstthats why ive missed it14:54
frinnstim so fucking sloppy its not even cute14:59
jseNot even level 10 OCD masters will catch everything.15:06
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prologicHere's an interesting question for you guys ...17:45
prologicDo Ext2/Ext3 and other linux file systems suffer from fragmentation ?17:45
Romsteryes if the disk is ran full all the time.17:49
Romsterfind -mount -type f -print0|xargs -0 /usr/sbin/filefrag |grep per|sort -nk2 -t:|tail17:50
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prologicjust that we had a conversation here this morning at the NOC and well basically there are lots of folks out ther taht use Linux that apparently claim that Linux native file systems do not suffer from file fragmentation18:35
prologicwhich is of course BS18:35
sillyhatiirc windows's fs fragmentation issues are a result of premature optimisation of some sort18:40
sillyhatbut I'm not really sure about that18:40
sillyhatnot suffering at all is of couse BS, but the performance impact is lower18:41
sillyhator something like that :)18:41
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