IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2011-08-30

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veeanyone want some pasta?00:41
pitillogood morning01:08
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sepenmorning02:19
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: xterm: updated to 27305:15
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: chromium: fixed dependencies (thanks to Danny Rawlins)05:15
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: [notify] jdk: updated to 1.7.005:15
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frinnstrmull: unable to reproduce your gnutls issues here06:01
rmulljaeger: Don't know what to say, that's very helpful. Thanks very much. I'll try these out when I'm done moving apartments.06:03
sepenfrinnst: it seems that gnutls requires libidn to build crywrap tool06:03
seanwHello, does anyone know what is wrong with the iasl package?  It won’t compile for me (I need it for VirtualBox).06:05
sepenfrinnst: since libidn is in contrib I could adopt and move it to opt, ATM it's maintained by Danny, so I'll talk with06:06
sepenseanw: let me try06:06
seanwThe error I am getting: http://pastebin.com/cEUd3Lqt06:07
sepenseanw: don't worry, I'll update iasl to 2011062306:09
seanwGreat thanks :)06:09
cruxbot[opt-x86_64.git/2.7]: [notify] jdk: updated to 1.7.006:13
frinnstsepen: cheers06:14
frinnstbtw, i shamelessly stole your updated jdk port and commit message :D06:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: iasl: updated to 2011062306:17
sepenseanw: ^^06:17
sepenfrinnst: hehe06:17
sepenRomster: ping06:20
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seanwsepen, win.06:44
sepenfrinnst: midori failed on my x86_64 machine06:48
frinnstill give it a spin06:49
sepenfrinnst: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/467081/06:49
sepenit seems related to gstreamer and webkit06:50
sepenI'll rebuild icu, gst* and webkit here06:51
frinnstim missing most deps, takes a few secs06:51
sepenhmmm, webkit failed to build here due to gstreamer flags06:52
sepenmaybe it was my fault06:52
sepen#sometime ago I reverted gstreamer 0.11 to 0.10.35 and seems related06:54
frinnstyeah, all those undefined references06:57
frinnstlibs seem out of sync06:57
sepenlet me try here06:57
frinnststill building webkit06:57
sepennah, after rebuild gstreamer the problem dissapeared for webkit06:59
sepennow I'm rebuilding webkit too06:59
sepenfrinnst: it was my fault, so when I decide to revert them I pkgadd'ed the old package I had for gstreamer instead of rebuilding it again07:00
Romstergstreamer 0.10.35 built fine with webkit last i looked.07:06
sepenRomster: could I adopt libidn?07:08
Romstersepen, you can take libidn to opt provided it's kept up to date :) it hasn't had a new version in ages. only i use libidn for gst-plugins-bad07:08
sepenneat!07:08
Romsterwant me to drop libidn now in contrib or you want to?07:08
sepenok, thanks I'll move07:08
Romsteri got a ton of ports as it is now.07:09
RomsterteK_, bump mpd already 3rd time i've asked.07:09
Romsterif your not using mpd i can take over it i use mpd everyday for the past year now.07:09
teK_keep cool.07:10
Romsteri am cool :)07:10
teK_fine07:10
Romsterjust letting you know there is a new release. you never acknowledged that i notified you.07:10
teK_ack07:11
Romsterjust wanted to be sure you got my message was all, i'm not mad or anything.07:11
teK_got it07:11
Romsterdoesn't mean you have to do it right away either.07:12
sepenlol07:12
Romsteri'm getting a continuous inking system for my printer i'm getting sick of changing cartridges.07:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: libidn: initial import (moved from opt collection)07:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gnutls: fixed dependencies (added libidn to fix crywrap issues)07:14
frinnstsepen: installed ok here07:17
sepennice, still building here, but it seems that was my fault as we talked07:21
Romsterthat's why i like to build my ports in a clean chroot.07:26
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Romsterit would be good for everyone to do that.07:26
sepenRomster: I like it too, but not always I have my safe-env near me07:26
sepenRomster: for example. my home harddisk 200GB is broken since the last month, so I lost all my shit07:27
Romstersince my system is no where near crux's stuff i have to. else i'd get more complaints than i get now.07:28
Romsterdamn07:28
Romsterdon't you have a backup?07:28
Romsternearly every week i see at least 1 dead hard disk or near dead one at work.07:28
sepenwell, is not broken, just I repartitioned some data07:28
sepenso I'll try with sleuthkit07:29
Romstertestdisk?07:29
sepenno no, better07:29
Romsterthat can detect partitions/filesystem07:29
sepenI'm talking about forensics07:29
Romsteri haven't tried sleuthkit07:29
sepensleuthkit+autopsy07:29
Romsteri'm aware sleuthkit is forensics tool but i haven't dived into try it.07:29
sepenI think that is the most professional tool for that07:30
Romsteri really ought to look into that tool07:30
sepenwell, time to going back to home07:30
sepensee ya' guys07:30
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: libidn: moved to opt for gnutls07:41
jaegerbinutils tarball has been removed, replaced with .1a08:47
ente.la? :P09:05
jaeger2.20.1 replaced with 2.20.1a09:05
enteah09:06
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Romsterwhy didn't they just make it 1109:20
Romstersince a is for alpha usually09:20
jaegerhow would I know?09:21
Romsteri dunno i'm just ranting.09:21
Romsterif it's bothering i'll go rant somewhere else.09:23
entesee, if we had a giant CVS tree, it would all be much better09:25
enteno broken MD5 shit!09:25
entesrsly09:25
ente:>09:25
jsecvs is proven to reduce human error! </troll>09:31
enteyep09:33
jaegerhrmm... a minimal centos install has ivtv-firmware installed.. the hell?09:36
jseThe centos people make it a point that it's all relative, apparently.09:40
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jseWonder who they profiled to get that conclusion for minimal. Joe the mad archivist?09:41
Romsteroh gawd if your gonna go trolling about CVS at least use GIT :P09:44
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jaegermy assumption is they are just mirroring red hat's "minimal" install list, but still, it's weird09:47
Romsteri'd call that a bug.09:53
frinnstuh, 2.20.1a is broken?10:00
frinnstMISSING   -rw-r--r--      root/root       usr/include/libiberty.h10:00
frinnstNEW       -rw-r-----      root/root       usr/include/libiberty.h10:00
frinnstnice perms for a header10:00
seanwAnyone got any experience with laptop-mode-tools under CRUX?  Can’t seem to get mine working.10:06
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sepenfrinnst: I built webkit and midori for fine here, sorry for waste your time :P10:15
Romstershould be fine i tested it the other day.10:17
Romsteri had to patch glib-networking though due to a change in gnupg10:18
cruxbot[core-x86_64.git/2.7]: binutils: new tarball10:18
sepenRomster: I was talking about a problem I found on my x86_64 box10:29
sepenjue: ping10:30
Romsterk10:39
juesepen: ?10:44
sepenjue: hi, have you seen the last jre/jdk update?10:44
juesepen: not yet10:45
sepenok, jre update it's like usual, but jdk differs10:45
jueI guess it's no longer possible to download files without user action?10:46
sepennot exactly10:46
sepenI found the url to jdk source but they said that you should accept the license10:46
sepenbut should be do? for now I wrote a little README about instructions but also I patched the Pkgfile to use a valid url source10:47
sepens/but/what/10:47
sepenbbl10:50
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jueindeed, the direct jre/jdk download seems to work10:54
jueto verify this, can someone try a 'wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jre-7-linux-i586.tar.gz' please?10:55
frinnst2011-08-30 17:57:25 (8.94 MB/s) - `jre-7-linux-i586.tar.gz' saved [33749702/33749702]10:57
juejaeger, frinnst: there's the reason for the misterious new binutil 2.20.1 -> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.binutils/5473310:57
frinnstyeah i saw, just like with emacs :D10:57
juefrinnst: thx10:58
jaegerjue: ah, good to know, thanks11:00
tilmanwhy do i need to rebuild firefox in order to remove that netherlandish CA from my root ca store?11:07
tilmanwhy doesnt a rebuild of nss fix it?11:07
tilmanwhy is mozilla.org stupid/incompetent/xxx?11:07
frinnstbecause they are stupid/incompetent/xxx11:08
tilmanoh11:08
tilmandid you see the article the fsecure dudes wrote about this incident? it's linked from the lwn article (search comments)11:09
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frinnsttilman: nah, not re. mozilla13:00
frinnstonly the cert issue itself13:00
tilmanthat's what i meant13:01
frinnstah13:02
frinnsti bet it will take a week or so to get a new nss out13:04
frinnstyou can do it yourself btw13:05
frinnstremove the cert13:05
tilmansure, already did13:06
tilmanjust wondering =)13:06
frinnst:>13:06
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vee_first time not seeing jaeger on O.o17:46
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Romsterwhat is it with that vee guy.21:32
Romsterenough knowledge to be a pain but not enough to be useful.21:32
jaegerwe all start somewhere22:02
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