IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2012-02-16

jaegerfighting with grub and EFI again00:00
jaegerwithout any particular success00:00
v33not sure what efi is, but grub....i know grub. lol00:01
v33assuming from Jsanchez's post, its mac related?00:01
jaegerTo grossly oversimplify the matter, EFI is BIOS' replacement00:01
jaegerIt's not specific to macs but macs currently use it00:01
v33oh, jaeger, have you played with bumblebeed/ironhide?00:03
jaegernever heard of either00:04
v33basically, its a nvidia optimus replacement...gives you your video card power when you need it, cuts out and and enabled the on board video card when you dont, and lets you combine the two00:05
v33in other words...battery saver! lol00:05
jaegerNot something I'd need, then, since my x220 only has one GPU... glad someone's working on it, though00:05
v33im hoping ill be able to get it on my laptop...im sure the 2gb video card will be a power hog00:07
jaegerblah, I give up for now, going to bed00:13
v33night night00:15
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pitillomorning01:09
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niklaswegood morning01:19
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frinnst*GOOD* morning01:27
frinnst:>01:27
pitillooh no frinnst, are you ill? I can't belive you told the "good" word at this hours...01:29
frinnst:D01:29
pitilloxD01:29
frinnstacrux: sorry to hear the news re. ppc01:29
pprkutow crap, and I just switched :/02:02
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Romsterwhat news what am i missing?02:11
Romsteroh on ML02:12
nogagplzwhat happened where what huh02:18
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frinnstyeah, shame.. though perhaps unavoidable02:21
Romsteri wasn't aware of how many used ppc.02:21
frinnsthttp://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux-devel/2012-February/004011.html02:22
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frinnsthttp://i.imgur.com/yeEKW.jpg03:29
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niklasweWhen i delete a user from ldap the user got removed, but the user are still member in some groups... how should I do so it also remove the user from the groups..06:51
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jaegerholy shit, I got grub2 EFI to find its config file for once09:38
rmullCongrats jaeger09:45
jaegerthanks :D09:46
jaegerHad to specify the prefix 2 different ways when making the image, it's kind of ridiculous09:47
jaeger../grub-mkimage -d . -p '(cd0)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi' -o bootx64.efi -O x86_64-efi '--prefix=(cd0)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi' $(find *.mod | xargs | sed 's/.mod//g')09:47
jaegerThat second prefix setting is undocumented09:47
frinnstlooks simple09:54
jaegergrub *still* says some shit like "warning: prefix is not set!" when it boots, but it does boot the menu now, which it didn't before09:56
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jaegeras far as I can tell EFI and isohybrid are not compatible, sadly09:58
jaegerat least not currently09:58
frinnst:(10:03
jaegerunrelated to the grub stuff but it seems kernel 3.2.5 doesn't like my efifb setup10:39
jaeger3.1.5 works great, 3.2.5 goes blank when booting, though it does boot all the way10:40
jaegerjust can't see it booting10:40
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cruxbot[opt-x86_64.git/2.7]: flash-player-plugin: updated to 11.1.102.6211:33
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teK_< 3.2.6 an no problems with efifb14:18
teK_[tek@basra][~]% < /proc/cmdline14:18
teK_BOOT_IMAGE=dev001:\EFI\efi\CRUX-new root=/dev/sdb1  quiet raid=noautodetect video=efifb ro14:18
teK_[tek@basra][~]% zgrep FB_EFI /proc/config.gz14:18
teK_CONFIG_FB_EFI=y14:18
jaegerI can't figure out what the problem is... it's specific to that kernel build... when I boot from the new EFI CD image I'm testing, it works with 3.2.514:19
jaegerI'll just scrap that tree and build again later14:19
jaegerbootstrapping packages for it now but hopefully I've got it set up to work properly this time14:20
jaegergonna test on my x220 and macbook pro14:20
teK_http://www.therestartpage.com/ zomg14:22
teK_no idea, sry14:22
jaegerIt's not a problem, I always keep a fallback when I build a new kernel14:31
Rotwangthere is "tsubasa" collection in portdb, lulz14:43
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v33hi everyone15:09
jaegeryo15:11
v33did you figure out the EFI thing that was bugging you yesterday?15:12
jaegerI think so; I'm making a new ISO to test it now15:13
v33hope it all works out :P15:15
jaegerMe too, thanks15:15
jaegerIf it does work I'll need to add gnu-efi, efibootmgr, and parted to the ISO15:15
jaegerwhich is fine15:15
v33i see you've updated your iso to 2.7.1....did you keep the same kernel as well?15:16
jaegerI don't remember, to be honest15:16
v33i guess if i ever reinstall crux, ill let you know15:17
v33hey jaeger, may i ask you one last question?15:17
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jaegerfeel free15:18
jaegerno guarantees I can answer :)15:18
v33heh15:18
v33i was wondering, if i were to install crux on one hard drive, would there be an easy way to copy all the stuff and put it on another hard drive, so i can use that? sort of like imaging...i dont know if acronis can handle linux os'15:19
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jaegeracronis should handle it fine, or clonezilla15:20
v33hm. im thinking of just getting crux up and running and clone it when my ssd arrives...15:20
v33thanks :D15:20
jaegerJust keep in mind you'll have to edit the fstab and boot loader, etc., if you want to have both bootable at the same time15:21
jaegerif it's just a backup or a drive swap you don't need to worry about it15:21
v33yea, im just going to swap it out, and use my ssd. i just want to have crux ready so i dont have to redo everything15:21
v33anyways, back to class..been here since 7 am, cant leave till 630. fml15:21
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v33thanks again :D15:21
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jaegerIf he comes back when I'm not around someone tell him to research if acronis aligns cloned images properly for SSDs :P15:24
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Romsteri was just about to mention about TRIM FS alignment and what FS type is he gonna use?15:42
Romsterfsarchive may be the best option to backup and then restore it as OCFS2?15:42
* nogagplz trims Romsters beard15:42
Romsterbeat you to it i took about 2 centimeters off it the other day15:43
nogagplz:/15:43
jaegerIt's either ext4 or nilfs currently15:43
RomsterOCFS2 no good?15:44
Romsternot familiar with nilfs will look that one up.15:44
RotwangI hate that you need to run userspace daemon15:45
Rotwangwhen using nilfs15:45
Romsterhmm what if the odd chance a OOM kills that, FS integrity?15:45
jaegerwoot, booted and have access to EFI vars15:46
jaegeryay15:46
jaegerit may be fine, though it's clustered and I've never looked into clustered FS for desktop use15:46
Romsterah probably the equivalent to the clvmd for lvm i guess. i'm off to work later. oh btw jaeger i'd report back to the grub and whoever about the undocumented config var, looks to me the entire EFI thing is half baked.15:51
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jaegerI've already tried to contact several people involved with grub2 efi stuff, never received any responses16:14
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Romsterjaeger, how long ago now? might take a few days if they are busy.19:30
jaegeroldest was a couple weeks19:31
nogagplzdamnit Romster get back to work, the customers are queueing out the door19:39
Romsterhah19:44
Romsterit's relatively quiet today19:45
Romsterunless more stuff shows up this arvo.19:45
* nogagplz brings in a failing cyrix machine19:48
Romster2 weeks is a long time to wait for a reply.19:55
Romster-_-19:55
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Romsterback to work later.20:15
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