Romster | joe9, i said earlier i jsut use rm. | 00:54 |
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pitillo | morning | 01:10 |
Romster | morning | 01:10 |
pitillo | :) | 01:11 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Morning! | 01:20 |
Romster | i'm eating rabbit | 01:21 |
Romster | jaeger, and some customers are good, got some apple cinnamon muffins :D | 01:22 |
Ovim-Obscurum | <- Playing around with GIT | 01:23 |
Ovim-Obscurum | :) | 01:23 |
Romster | i do that pretty much everyday Ovim-Obscurum | 01:23 |
Ovim-Obscurum | It's completely new to me - looking forward to manage all my software projects with it soon. | 01:24 |
Romster | you used subversion mercedeal monotone before it's similar. | 01:24 |
Romster | though with git you only need the porcelain commands most of the time | 01:26 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Yeah seems to be very user-friendly and simple | 01:27 |
Romster | never used to be when it was more perl than c and lacking documentation and useful hints. | 01:28 |
Ovim-Obscurum | The last time I tried to use it with GITOSIS I misconfigured something :D Let's see how it will be this time :D | 01:28 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Oh, I thought the kernel.org guys love documentation :D | 01:28 |
Romster | jaeger, has gitosis, i would recomwend gitolite thats what i got setup | 01:29 |
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Ovim-Obscurum | Ah okay | 01:30 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Is it also working in combination with gitweb? | 01:30 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Because that's what I'd really like to offer. | 01:30 |
Romster | well last few years they have been doing documentation and cleanups. | 01:31 |
Romster | at first it was all about using the thing so docs got neglected at first. | 01:31 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Ah okay | 01:31 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Always the same :D | 01:31 |
Romster | i haven't got gitweb to work on it yet or cgit. | 01:32 |
Romster | that's my next step | 01:32 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Okay. | 01:32 |
Romster | https://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite very handy doc. | 01:32 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Okay :) | 01:33 |
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Ovim-Obscurum | Bookmarked, thanks :D | 01:33 |
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Romster | hi jue | 01:36 |
jue | hello | 01:38 |
Ovim-Obscurum | Hi! | 01:39 |
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Romster | computers all day i just wanna veg out now. | 01:53 |
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cruxbot | [opt.git/2.7]: wine: 1.4-rc2 -> 1.4-rc4 | 02:45 |
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rmull | I'm getting xawtv package failures due to inability to find some headers (which exist in my kernel sources, but they don't seem to be on my system) | 06:42 |
rmull | hm. | 06:43 |
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jaeger | No idea on gitolite but gitweb does work fine with gitosis | 07:48 |
ente | gitoris? | 07:51 |
jaeger | Never used that | 07:51 |
frinnst | gitosis sounds like a disease | 08:13 |
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joe9 | my crux system was working fine, till the latest prt-get update and I now have this message in my startx.log: su: Cannot drop the controlling terminal | 11:05 |
joe9 | x:2:once:/usr/bin/su --login joe --shell /bin/zsh --command='/usr/bin/startx -- -nolisten tcp' >>/var/log/startx.log 2>&1 | 11:05 |
joe9 | is what I always had in /etc/inittab | 11:05 |
joe9 | I am not sure what would have changed for su to error out with that message. | 11:05 |
joe9 | just wanted to check if anyone is noticing the same. | 11:07 |
jaeger | It's probably due to the changes to su itself, I'd guess | 11:07 |
jaeger | I don't know the details but someone was talking about it a couple days ago | 11:07 |
joe9 | oh, really. | 11:07 |
niklaswe | jaeger: do you mean this.. http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-shadow?view=revision&revision=3709 | 11:07 |
niklaswe | ? | 11:07 |
jaeger | nope | 11:07 |
jaeger | was related to shadow/su | 11:07 |
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niklaswe | oh then i paste wrong link.. looking in my logs :P | 11:08 |
joe9 | jaeger: or, should I just change my inittab to do this: http://linuxgazette.net/issue72/chung.html | 11:08 |
jaeger | that would be an option, I guess... though it seems overcomplicated to me | 11:09 |
joe9 | or, should I just install autologin? | 11:09 |
jaeger | one of the gettys has an autologin feature that you could use, I do something like it for my XBMC machine | 11:09 |
joe9 | oh, really. can you please give me more details on how I can do that? | 11:10 |
jaeger | looks like the default agetty has autologin | 11:10 |
jaeger | check the agetty manpage, it's the -a option | 11:10 |
jaeger | so you could tell agetty to login your user automatically on tty1, for example | 11:10 |
niklaswe | mingetty has autologin function | 11:11 |
jaeger | then in your user's bash dot files, you do something like "If I'm on the console, start X" | 11:11 |
joe9 | the /etc/inittab seems to use agetty. | 11:11 |
joe9 | I have agetty in mine. | 11:11 |
joe9 | jaeger: ok, thanks. | 11:11 |
jaeger | yeah, that's why I said "the default", it's the crux default in this case | 11:11 |
jaeger | running the "tty" command will tell you what tty you're on | 11:11 |
jaeger | if you're logged in locally it'll probably be /dev/tty1 or the like | 11:11 |
jaeger | if you're sshed in it'll be something like /dev/pts/5 | 11:11 |
jaeger | same for X | 11:11 |
jaeger | so in .bashrc or .bash_profile or whatever, you could do something like: | 11:12 |
jaeger | [ "`tty`" = "/dev/tty1" ] && startx | 11:13 |
joe9 | oh, ok, then everything in X will be a child of agetty, instead of init. | 11:14 |
jaeger | not sure on that... I've only used that setup on my XBMC box, which is off most of the time | 11:14 |
joe9 | c1:2:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux | 11:14 |
joe9 | is what I have in my inittab. | 11:15 |
joe9 | does it help to increase the baudrate oslt? | 11:15 |
jaeger | doesn't make a lot of difference on the console | 11:15 |
joe9 | jaeger: what do you normally use with linux if you do not autologin? do you not use X on your working desktop machine? | 11:20 |
joe9 | just curious about your workflow when you start your desktop (if you use linux, I mean). | 11:21 |
jaeger | I log in with my username and password and then run 'startx' | 11:21 |
jaeger | There's nothing about X that requires autologin, after all | 11:22 |
joe9 | ok, thanks. let me try the changes | 11:25 |
joe9 | will see you on the other side. | 11:25 |
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joe9 | jaeger: thanks, it worked. cannot believe that it is not used much more. | 11:29 |
jaeger | Well, you might imagine in public workplaces autologin is not always desired | 11:30 |
jaeger | At home, though, it's of course whatever | 11:30 |
jaeger | There are of course other options; you could use slim or xdm or something similar | 11:30 |
jaeger | Though I'm not sure if they support autologin, they do start X right off the bat | 11:30 |
joe9 | jaeger: they seem to be adding another layer of complexity and confusing things. | 11:31 |
joe9 | I wanted something simple that I could know what was going on. | 11:31 |
jaeger | The beauty of it is you can do it whatever way you want, pretty much. :) | 11:32 |
niklaswe | I think gdm has support for autologin. | 11:32 |
joe9 | and agetty -a is right up what I was looking for. I have the terminals started up anyway. why bother with another su -- in inittab | 11:32 |
joe9 | when I can use the getty. | 11:32 |
joe9 | is there any way to reuse the agetty for a terminal instead of using rxvt? or, is that a bad idea? | 11:34 |
joe9 | I mean other getty's. | 11:34 |
joe9 | agetty seem to be doing the same things as rxvt, atlest to my newbs' perspective. | 11:35 |
jaeger | I doubt that's possible with how X works but I'm no X or tty expert | 11:35 |
joe9 | ok, thanks. | 11:35 |
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joe9 | I have this in my /etc/rc.conf: HOSTNAME=main, but, echo $HOSTNAME is blank and I also get hostname: Unknown host | 11:58 |
joe9 | in my startx.log | 11:58 |
joe9 | "c1:2:respawn:/sbin/agetty --host mymachine --8bits --keep-baud 38400 tty1 linux" .. also tried this in /etc/inittab | 11:58 |
joe9 | still the same message | 11:58 |
joe9 | but, "hostname" in the terminal gives me what was setup in /etc/rc.conf | 12:02 |
joe9 | got it, wrong shell script was causing it. | 12:04 |
joe9 | sorry for the bother. | 12:04 |
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jaeger | hrm... thinking about buying another SSD today, tempting | 12:20 |
jaeger | I guess I should wait for it to go on sale | 12:20 |
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joe9 | from amazon? | 12:53 |
jaeger | newegg, though amazon undoubtedly has it as well | 12:54 |
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Romster | joe9, see the crux ML jue said to pkgmk -kw util-linux-ng then use copy that su version to replace the system one until a new shadow version is out. | 15:57 |
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joe9 | romster, that's ok. I am not using that anymore. I think it is simpler to use agetty. | 17:23 |
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Romster | rmull, for xawtv i would sugest trying there git tree http://git.linuxtv.org/xawtv3.git | 19:50 |
Romster | or actually 3.102 version. | 19:50 |
Romster | http://linuxtv.org/downloads/xawtv/$name-$version.tar.bz2 | 19:52 |
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rmull | Romster: I ended up not using it. Was gonna make sure my webcam was working but it turned out to be working anyway | 20:06 |
rmull | thank you though | 20:06 |
Romster | wonder what happened to the attach file to flyspray | 20:06 |
Romster | http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=805 | 20:06 |
Romster | well sepen should fix it though. | 20:07 |
Romster | back to work later | 20:07 |
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