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| frinnst | http://i.imgur.com/pKSHf.jpg | 03:02 |
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| frinnst | haha, australia is awesome | 03:03 |
| frinnst | meanwhile: http://www.newsoxy.com/odd/australia-fight-samurai-sword-chainsaw-69482.html | 03:09 |
| nogagplz | yeah it's awesome to live here | 03:10 |
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| Romster | frinnst, no more insanse than some kid in USA killing people in a school | 03:47 |
| Romster | http://www.news.com.au/technology/beat-your-beer-bottle-top-with-an-apple-charger-and-these-10-other-household-items/story-e6frfro0-1226347009884 | 03:50 |
| Romster | hahaha awesome | 03:50 |
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| frinnst | hah, i like the belt buckle method | 04:14 |
| Romster | table top is my method | 04:17 |
| frinnst | yeah, probably the most common one | 04:17 |
| teK_ | a friend of mine uses his calculator back from our time in school.. | 04:17 |
| frinnst | why does firefox use more cpu and ram than fedora running in vbox? | 04:20 |
| frinnst | answer: its shite | 04:21 |
| teK_ | :p | 04:21 |
| Romster | no idea memory leaks bad code | 04:26 |
| Romster | i've had a few gb of ram consumed by firefox | 04:26 |
| Romster | when all i had was like 3 browsers with 20-30 tabs each open. | 04:27 |
| Romster | pretty pathetic | 04:27 |
| frinnst | i have maybe 15 tabs open with static content | 04:27 |
| frinnst | still constant cpu usage | 04:28 |
| frinnst | oo, galaxy s3 announced | 04:28 |
| pitillo | good morning | 04:28 |
| frinnst | looks too big :( | 04:28 |
| frinnst | morning | 04:28 |
| pitillo | ummm nice toy too... 4.8", a bit bigger than htc one X | 04:29 |
| frinnst | my s2 is really too big i think | 04:30 |
| pitillo | I'm in love with my s2... good size :) | 04:30 |
| frinnst | I have tiny hands :) | 04:30 |
| frinnst | cant really use with just one hand | 04:31 |
| pitillo | but bigger ones as the one X is nice too... impressive performance really | 04:31 |
| pitillo | oh! here big hands... I think s3 would be right between mines too xD | 04:31 |
| teK_ | http://t.co/scKErDKm | 04:34 |
| pitillo | seems it has a bigger battery than one X too... we'll see how it manages it | 04:34 |
| frinnst | Romster: there are updates for iozone in your repo | 04:49 |
| Romster | plenty of updates i'll bump iozone though. | 04:52 |
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| niklaswe | does someone has any good utility to convert mysql -> postgresql? | 06:22 |
| mike_k | niklaswe: what is the source of your data? it's sometimes easier to convert application-specific database. for example, Django web framework has a few serialization formats to dump into and restor from... | 06:29 |
| niklaswe | mike_k: its an mediawiki database. | 06:32 |
| mike_k | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PostgreSQL#MediaWiki_database_migration have you seen that? | 06:33 |
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| mike_k | or you can just rely on some more generic tool. anyway some (automated?) testing is required after such a migration ) | 06:36 |
| mike_k | sorry, have to go. good luck! | 06:37 |
| niklaswe | mike_k: yupp, I have tried the mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl but when I running it I got this Error "ould not open "tables.sql": make sure this script is run from maintenance/postgres/" | 06:38 |
| niklaswe | when I trying to dump de mysql-database. | 06:38 |
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| frinnst | silly freebsd9, refuses to properly align the disk | 08:11 |
| jaeger | perhaps you could align in parted/gparted first, then install? | 08:12 |
| frinnst | yeah it seems like the only solution | 08:13 |
| joe9 | anyone using pm | 08:13 |
| joe9 | i mean pm-utils. | 08:13 |
| frinnst | not these days | 08:14 |
| joe9 | when I do "sudo pm-hibernate", nothing happens. | 08:14 |
| jaeger | Not I | 08:14 |
| joe9 | frinnst: on crux, is there a lot of extra configuration that is required to make pm-utils work. | 08:14 |
| frinnst | i remembered it being pretty straight forward | 08:14 |
| joe9 | there is no file in /etc/pm/*.d directories | 08:14 |
| joe9 | and this is the defaults file: http://codepad.org/qSHvFZQz | 08:15 |
| frinnst | iirc, you can just echo "hibernate" to /sys/something | 08:15 |
| joe9 | http://codepad.org/8m63DHMw | 08:15 |
| joe9 | frinnst: ok, thanks. will check the echo stuff. | 08:15 |
| jaeger | have you looked at http://crux.nu/Wiki/Pm-utils ? | 08:16 |
| joe9 | jaeger: thanks. i had not. | 08:16 |
| joe9 | i am, now. | 08:16 |
| jaeger | np | 08:16 |
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| teK_ | pm-suspend works for me without configuration (but the corresponding kernel option[s] enable, of course) | 08:25 |
| joe9 | nothing happens with this: http://codepad.org/LPIhRDkC | 08:25 |
| joe9 | teK_: thanks. I have the kernel options enabled in "menuconfig". | 08:26 |
| joe9 | teK_: is there some other place for those options? | 08:26 |
| joe9 | and, I presume that you did not touch /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults. | 08:26 |
| teK_ | what happens on: | 08:27 |
| teK_ | sudo su -c 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' | 08:27 |
| teK_ | or without sudo, just as you like | 08:27 |
| joe9 | teK_: ok, will check. thanks. | 08:27 |
| teK_ | < /sys/power/state | 08:27 |
| teK_ | schould give you all supported states | 08:28 |
| teK_ | I have no suspend enabled.. | 08:28 |
| joe9 | cat /sys/power/state | 08:28 |
| joe9 | standby disk | 08:28 |
| joe9 | teK_: can you please give me the output of sudo PM_DEBUG=1 /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate | 08:28 |
| teK_ | my kernel does not support hibernation | 08:30 |
| joe9 | teK_: oh, maybe that is the issue with mine too. | 08:31 |
| teK_ | 15:27 < teK_> < /sys/power/state | 08:31 |
| teK_ | will give you all supported states | 08:31 |
| teK_ | % zgrep -i hiber /proc/config.gz | 08:32 |
| teK_ | CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_POSSIBLE=y | 08:32 |
| teK_ | # CONFIG_HIBERNATION is not set | 08:32 |
| teK_ | http://dpaste.com/742617/ | 08:33 |
| teK_ | for hibernate (+ no support for it ;)) | 08:33 |
| joe9 | teK_: http://codepad.org/W9ADeysQ | 08:34 |
| teK_ | hm | 08:34 |
| teK_ | have you passed a resume partition to your kenrel? | 08:37 |
| frinnst | it defaults to swap usually i think | 08:38 |
| frinnst | oh, resume | 08:38 |
| * frinnst stays quiet | 08:38 | |
| teK_ | I, for example, don't have swap. I have (plenty of) RAM. :p | 08:38 |
| joe9 | teK_: i have not tried resume yet. I just did pm-hibernate and was hoping that it would halt the system oslt. | 08:39 |
| joe9 | teK_: is that what is expected? | 08:39 |
| teK_ | hibernate is not suspend to disk? | 08:39 |
| joe9 | I have multiple swap partitions and I am not sure where I should be specifying where the image should be written. | 08:39 |
| joe9 | teK_: oh, I was under the impression that "hibernate == suspend to disk" | 08:39 |
| teK_ | me too | 08:40 |
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| joe9 | teK_: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Userspace_software_suspend "Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk')" | 08:53 |
| joe9 | "hibernate == suspend to disk" | 08:53 |
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| teK_ | zeah | 08:59 |
| teK_ | yeah | 08:59 |
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| jaeger | man... unity can make my machine CRAWL at times | 12:09 |
| jaeger | really sad | 12:09 |
| frinnst | :) | 12:10 |
| jaeger | If we upgrade our 10.04 installs to 12.04 we may have to use xubuntu or the fallback session | 12:18 |
| jaeger | I can only imagine how much users will complain if AFNI/SUMA run like complete crap | 12:18 |
| frinnst | you run ubuntu on all the desktops/workstations? | 12:18 |
| frinnst | ouch | 12:18 |
| jaeger | Not all, we have a split between fedora and ubuntu | 12:18 |
| jaeger | until unity it's not been a problem :) | 12:19 |
| frinnst | centos/sl might be a viable alternative for new installs | 12:19 |
| jaeger | We don't have a large number of linux users, though, only about 8 | 12:19 |
| jaeger | I wonder if there's any way I could get my boss to agree to something like "we will support distribution X; if you want Y or Z we will install it but not support it." | 13:07 |
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| Romster | morning | 13:36 |
| deep42thought | Hi! | 13:36 |
| Romster | werid sleep pattern i had bed way early and wake up at 3am | 13:36 |
| Romster | 4am* | 13:36 |
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| ravis | hello cruxers. i have booted into runlevel 2 after reading through the handbook. I now need pointers to GNOME or KDE | 13:38 |
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| Romster | gnome is a no go it'll be removed... i think kde will work, but i'd suggest xfce as that is more lightweight. | 13:42 |
| frinnst | or no DE at all :) | 13:42 |
| deep42thought | I've got a problem (first I want to excuse for so less information, but I don't know in which direction to look right now): My crux-system won't boot correctly after my last "ports -u && prt-get sysup" (which updated everythingl correctly except sudo, because the server seemed to have internal problems). This appeares in the following: my (data)raid is not available (/dev/md0 is missing completely). furthermore /dev/sde1 (beeing | 13:42 |
| Romster | and i know sepen is maintaining that xfce. | 13:43 |
| frinnst | you can find kde in the port db at crux.nu | 13:43 |
| Romster | i'm using pekwm there is others in the repos for blackbox,fluxbox icewm, fvwm choose your poison :D | 13:43 |
| frinnst | deep42thought: might be related to the udev update | 13:44 |
| frinnst | you need some kernel thingys for it to work with kmod | 13:44 |
| frinnst | let me find the commit | 13:44 |
| Romster | jaeger, was maintaining gnome but lately has lost interest in gnome with t's direction of development. | 13:44 |
| frinnst | deep42thought: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/core.git;a=commit;h=329f79f218c3fda88b446c64fc6348d3f36cd929 | 13:45 |
| Romster | devtmpfs and automount devtempfs needs to be enabled. | 13:45 |
| ravis | ok xfce it is then..any recently updated guides? | 13:45 |
| deep42thought | @frinnst: yeah, my /dev looked quite empty, too :) | 13:45 |
| Romster | iirc jsut add the xfce.rsync file to /etc/ports/ | 13:46 |
| deep42thought | frinnst: yeah, my /dev looked quite empty, too :) | 13:46 |
| frinnst | and "prt-get depinst xfce4" | 13:46 |
| Romster | edit /etc/prt-get.conf to add prtdir /etc/ports/xfce | 13:46 |
| Romster | then prt-get depinst xfce | 13:46 |
| frinnst | you might need "--install-scripts" when doing that, not sure | 13:47 |
| Romster | i'm suprissed it even booted without devtmpfs | 13:47 |
| ravis | Romster: thanks! where can i find the xfce4 rsync file? | 13:47 |
| Romster | oh i would recomend enabling installscripts yes in prt-get.conf too. | 13:47 |
| Romster | on portsdb | 13:47 |
| frinnst | (crux.nu) | 13:47 |
| ravis | gotcha! thanks! you guys are awesome! | 13:47 |
| Romster | http://crux.nu/portdb/ | 13:47 |
| frinnst | I like you ravis. you are easily impressed :D | 13:48 |
| Romster | not quite as polished as other distros but we are more focused at experienced users | 13:48 |
| ravis | i am beginning to see why certain folks like CRUX so much;-)..so says a once upon a time gentoo user;-) | 13:48 |
| Romster | if you happen to want gnome you can always painstakingly build up a new gnome repo :D but it's a wold of hurt with it's dependencies | 13:49 |
| Romster | s/wold/world | 13:49 |
| ravis | Romster: I know exactly what you mean. I don't like using GNOME anymore unless I am really forced into it..KDE probably would be my first pref. | 13:50 |
| frinnst | gnome2 is pretty nice | 13:50 |
| frinnst | to use.. not to maintain :) | 13:50 |
| ravis | anybody running KDE4 reasonably newish release stably? | 13:50 |
| Romster | ravis, if oyu hit any issues with any of my maintianer ports jsut let me know i'll check it out, but the majority of maintainers arn't watching irc and prefer a bug report on the site. | 13:51 |
| Romster | frinnst, was that mate any good? | 13:51 |
| frinnst | well, most devs *are* on irc, but its easy to miss a bug here | 13:51 |
| Romster | http://mate-desktop.org/ | 13:51 |
| ravis | got it..the wiki article by Alan Mizrahi...known to work well? | 13:51 |
| frinnst | dunno, never tried it | 13:51 |
| Romster | url to it? not sure whcih wiki page your talking about. | 13:52 |
| Romster | some of the wiki is outdated. | 13:52 |
| frinnst | http://crux.nu/Wiki/KDE4 ? | 13:52 |
| frinnst | well alan maintains kde4 so.. | 13:53 |
| frinnst | should be pretty up to date i guess | 13:53 |
| frinnst | or maybe not: Page last modified on 2010-09-24 11:13 | 13:53 |
| frinnst | :) | 13:53 |
| ravis | hehe | 13:53 |
| Romster | last commit in kde4 5 weeks ago | 13:54 |
| ravis | well.. time to whip out gcc and give this new laptop a run...it can't hurt worse than some of the gentoo system updates ive been thru in the past:-) | 13:54 |
| ravis | i mean portage is good and all.. but i started reading the handbook like 4 hrs ago and I already understand what Per meant by "taste" | 13:55 |
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| Romster | btw i got a more recent xorg if your keen to test i've got no problems here http://romster.dyndns.org/linux/ports/crux/version-updates/ | 13:55 |
| ravis | i have 1.11.3 in my system as per pkginfo | 13:56 |
| Romster | i think i got like 4 users on xorg-server 1.12.1 | 13:56 |
| ravis | i grabbed the newer ISO from the 64-bit site | 13:56 |
| ravis | ok. so i just add your port and then uprade? | 13:56 |
| Romster | it's jsut tilman's xorg but bumped versions. it'll work on 32 and 64 bit systems and multilib too. | 13:57 |
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| frinnst | assdf. stupid writeback lag | 13:57 |
| Romster | jsut throw in the version-updates_xorg.httpup to /etc/ports and add the entry to prt-get above the other xorg prtdir so it gets first preference. | 13:58 |
| ravis | gotcha..just read that in the prt-get manpage | 13:58 |
| Romster | if you want to test that is until it's merged in to official. | 13:58 |
| Romster | i'm a dev so my ports are trustworthy | 13:58 |
| ravis | i will give it a try..i need a WM first..easiest one? openbox? | 13:59 |
| frinnst | i prefer fluxbox | 13:59 |
| Romster | any problems let me know | 13:59 |
| Romster | i like pekwm light and fast. | 13:59 |
| ravis | in contrib?? | 13:59 |
| Romster | butt he default theme is not so nice so i have some themes packaged for it. | 14:00 |
| frinnst | fluxbox is in contrib, yes | 14:00 |
| Romster | in contrib but the extra themes for pekwm is in my romster repo. | 14:00 |
| ravis | got it. | 14:00 |
| Romster | but you can find your fav on http://box-look.org/ and package it yourself too for your fave WM | 14:01 |
| Romster | that's the other advantage of crux whipping a new port/package is just minutes away. | 14:01 |
| deep42thought | frinnst: It seem's, I've enabled the kerneloptions ... Is this the standard? (in which file do I have to look actualy?) | 14:02 |
| frinnst | the kernel config is saved in /usr/src/linux-<version>/.config usually | 14:02 |
| Romster | zgrep DEVTMPFS /proc/config.gz | 14:02 |
| Romster | CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y | 14:03 |
| Romster | CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y | 14:03 |
| deep42thought | I#m an idiot | 14:03 |
| frinnst | or yes, /proc/config.gz if you use that feature | 14:03 |
| deep42thought | i left out hidden files *grrrr* | 14:03 |
| Romster | make menuconfig | 14:03 |
| tilman | modprobe configs | 14:03 |
| ravis | Romster: I am looking at your port list..dont see xorg server listed? all i see is some xorg fonts and themes? | 14:03 |
| ravis | http://romster.dyndns.org/linux/ports/crux/romster/ | 14:04 |
| Romster | hmm i haven't used modprobe configs before handy tip thanks tilman | 14:04 |
| ravis | never mind..found it | 14:05 |
| Romster | yeah that's got lots of outdated ports only a few are maintained. but if you use anything that's got a old version i'll bump it. | 14:05 |
| Romster | time to bump iozone i got too tired earlier too. | 14:06 |
| frinnst | :) | 14:06 |
| Romster | that's probably a good candidate for contrib too | 14:08 |
| Romster | is that the only thing in romster that your using frinnst ? | 14:08 |
| frinnst | hmm, dunno | 14:11 |
| frinnst | i had w4d in my meta-list also, but i dont use that | 14:13 |
| deep42thought | frinnst: thx a lot, now's everything fine (at least it looks so :D) | 14:22 |
| cruxbot | [opt-x86_64.git/2.7]: [notify] flash-player-plugin: updated to 11.2.202.235. resolves CVE-2012-0779. | 14:30 |
| frinnst | I cant wait for adobe to drop flash linux/android support | 14:32 |
| frinnst | my systems will be sooo much safer | 14:32 |
| frinnst | :) | 14:32 |
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| frinnst | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/05/emergency-flash-update-fixes-security-bug-being-used-to-hijack-pcs.ars | 14:39 |
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| teK_ | as if flash had been a security risk in the past | 14:43 |
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| Romster | more important is when flash sites convert to html5 | 15:13 |
| Romster | flash is a bad design from the very beginning. | 15:14 |
| deep42thought | :) | 15:14 |
| nogagplz | lol Romster have you even been to sleep yet | 15:17 |
| nogagplz | or did you wake up early | 15:17 |
| Romster | i went to bed early and woke up early. | 15:17 |
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| brndklng | hi | 18:51 |
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| Romster | hi brndklng | 20:57 |
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| Romster | cmake 2.8.8 breaks building sakura can't find pkg-config yet it reports pkg-config as version 0.26 | 21:49 |
| Romster | cmake 2.8.7 works as expected. | 21:49 |
| nogagplz | yeah I see that too | 22:49 |
| nogagplz | although not a fan of card captor tbh... | 22:49 |
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