IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2012-07-14

cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: exiv2: Updated to 0.2300:30
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: libpthread-stubs: new maintainer03:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: polyglotman: new source url, new maintainer03:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xkeyboard-config: update to 2.603:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-bdftopcf: new maintainer03:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-bigreqsproto: update to 1.1.203:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-cf-files: new maintainer03:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-compositeproto : new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-damageproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-dmxproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-dri2proto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-fixesproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-*: new maintainer, fix dependencies03:52
joe9romster, would you mind bumping the gnome-python version:
joe9it needs cruxab repo06:10
joe9for dependencies06:10
Romsteri don't even use that anymore i'd rather remove it and you can clone it into your joe9 repo06:21
Romsterthen again i might use that for exaile, haven't got it listed as a dep...06:24
Romsterbloody gnome deps06:38
Romsterjoe9,  why that version and not something more recent?06:46
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clod89i don't understand what should go in /etc and what should go in /usr/etc for example dbus goes in /usr/etc which from what i read makes sense but then by looking at the bitlbee Pkgfile it goes in /etc, why?06:48
Romsterhow many times does this have to be explained.06:49
Romsteranything that is a daemon or in core.06:50
Romstergoes in /etc06:50
Romstereverything else /usr/etc06:50
Romsterit's in the handbook06:50
clod89Romster: well that's the point, why does dbus defaults in /usr/etc/? it is a daemon06:50
clod89Romster: i've read the handbook that's why i'm asking06:51
Romsterdaemons belong in /etc/06:52
Romsterunless it's not ran as root06:53
Romsterand dbus has two components but the majority run it as a season when x starts06:53
Romsteras there user06:53
joe9romster, I thought that was the most recent supported by gnome 2.32.106:54
joe9and gnome 2.32.1 is the one packaged by cruxab06:54
clod89Romster: i see, thanks, that clears things up i guess bitlbee goes in /etc since it would require super user privileges to be started06:58
Romsterthese paths are friggen weird one path to downloads has only the libs the other has the bindings.07:00
Romsterah difference between sources and bindings that's what's confusing me.07:05
clod89Romster: just for curiosity why isn't gallium enabled by default in mesa?07:08
Romsterjoe9, got it figured now silly paths had me confused.07:11
Romsterdon't know not using it but i can enable it if it don't cause many issues07:11
clod89Romster: i've enabled it and using it on my ati card and seems to be working fine, i'll run a couple of tests later but at least when i was using it in gentoo it gave a massive performance boost to the free driver07:13
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Romsterclod89, using official xorg or my xorg fork? also note that xorg is being updated officially07:44
clod89Romster: using the official xorg i recompiled mesa and some dependent packages as xorg-server and the drivers07:45
Romsteryou didn't get my memoserv message?07:46
clod89Romster: i don't even know what it is :-/07:47
Romster/ms read07:47
clod89"/ms read" not enough parameters given?07:48
Romsterwont matter now if you want to wait for offical xorg bump to be completed.07:48
Romster/ms read 107:48
Romsterthought it's meant to give help if no extra parms given07:48
clod89"/ms read 1" does not cut it either, anyway when it'll bump i'll eventually switch over to it07:50
Romsterffs what is it with this new services update.... /ms help07:50
Romstersee what the read command is07:50
Romsterit should notice you when you identify to services too.07:50
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Romsterback when i sent that ms i dind't knwo when it would go official.07:51
Romsterthought my bumped xorg would safe you some effort, nevermind.07:51
clod89i'll give it a look :-), while i'm at it, so far i've installed crux only on my secondary pc but in the next couple of weeks i wanted to install it on my main laptop, do you know if someone has already made a port for bumblebee? it is not in the ports db07:54
Romsternot in ports db then i wont know.07:54
Romstersome don't list there ports07:54
Romsterwhich they should.07:54
Romsteryou'll have to make your own if it can't be found07:55
clod89allirght i'll give it a shot then, only difficult part is installing the nvidia driver correctly since it needs some modifications not to conficlt with mesa07:56
Romsterstock mesa3d does not conflict with mesa3d07:57
Romstererr nvidia07:57
clod89Romster: "If you want to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver, you have to install it in a way such that its library files won't conflict with the Mesa libraries (notably" that's on the bumblebee page07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-bh-ttf: new maintainer, fix build issue07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-alias: update to 1.0.3, new maintainer07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-util: update to 1.3.0, new maintainer07:58
Romsterhave you looked at nvidia package and gl-select ?07:58
clod89Romster: as a matter of fact both slackware and arch have different scripts to install nvidia07:59
clod89Romster: nope07:59
clod89* nvidia for bumblebee07:59
Romsterprt-get depinst nvidia ; prt-get depinst gl-select ; gl-select use xorg ; gl-select use nvidia; depmod -a07:59
Romsteredit xorg.conf for nvidia then startx07:59
clod89Romster: but with bumblebee X would use the intel card and another X server would be started (i guess nested) to be used with the nvidia card08:00
clod89when launching a program with the optirun command08:00
Romsterisn't bumblebee some any IM chat to irc relay?08:01
Romsteroh right...08:01
Romsterme confusing crap08:01
Romsteri have no idea on bumblebee08:01
teK_clod89: will bumblebee work on anything else that's not an optimus-enabled laptop? (i.e. sandybridge desktop boards)08:02
Romsterbut i know mesa3d and nvidia do not clash and gl-select changes some symlinks for each08:02
clod89teK_: i don't think so since as far as i know it's an hardware switch in fact it uses the bbswitch module to turn the nvidia card on and off08:03
clod89Romster: well i'll try to figure it out when time comes :P08:03
teK_that's sad to hear08:04
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clod89just to give you an idea this is the slackbuild to install the nvidia driver specifically for bumblebee
Romsterdoes it have to be installed any different as to how nvidia and gl-select work in crux?08:09
clod89Romster: i guess so08:10
Romsterit's not clear what extra archives this requires08:13
Romsterfrom what source.08:13
clod89Romster: all those symlinks i guess are what makes the difference08:13
Romsterhas to be more than that08:14
clod89Romster: i've already looked at it, it gives instructions on how to compile bumblebee but not the proper way to compile and install the nvidia driver08:19
clod89Romster: it just says it does not have to conflict with mesa08:19
Romsteryeah i'm confused on that too.08:19
Romstermake DESTDIR=$PKG install08:20
Romsterthen review it's footprint08:20
clod89I'll dig it in the next weeks, right now i'm in the middle of my exams session i can't play around too much08:22
Romsteryou could look at prt-verify out of pkg-utils too.08:24
Romsterfor checking for issues with conflicts08:24
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: shadow: introduce upper- and lower-bounds for SYS_{UID,GID} in login.defs (FS#810)08:28
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-gccmakedep: new maintainer08:49
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-glproto: 1.4.14 -> 1.4.15, new maintainer, new dependency xorg-util-macros10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-iceauth: new maintainer10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-imake: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5, new maintainer10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-inputproto: 2.0.2 -> 2.2, new maintainer, new dependency xorg-util-macros10:16
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joe9i changed something in the pkg directory and want to rebuild the package manually.10:56
joe9what is the command to rebuild the package?10:56
joe9i applied a patch manually to the work folder in /var/pkgmk/work/..11:00
joe9is there anything to tell the prt-get or pkgmk to rebuild the package frmo there instead of downloading it again.11:00
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: dokuwiki: 2012-01-25a -> 2012-01-25b12:56
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: cryptsetup: 1.4.3 -> 1.5.013:03
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: git: ->
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joe9romster, will you merge my ghc port into yours?14:03
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: qemu: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.114:07
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entethe history of the crux homepage is funny14:10
entebasically, it's unchanged since 2006 or so :)14:11
entea large quantity of people from my irc network came visit me for my 18th birthday :)14:15
frinnstyour irc network?14:15
frinnstalso, 18?14:16
frinnstthe teen-hell is almost over :)14:16
enteyeah, the last birthday I celebrated14:17
entewhy's being a teen hell?14:18
tilmanyours wasn't? o_O14:18
frinnstlife sucks when you're a teenager14:18
enteright now, the only thing that sucks is university, or rather, me sucking at university14:19
ente... and has been since I turned 1714:19
enteschool didn't suck, that was just mandatory bullshit where I was required to be present but they'd allow me to sleep14:20
entemy parents sucked, but I had the internet :P14:20
enteit was ok I guess14:21
frinnsthow old are you now?14:21
entealmost 2014:21
entehm, I should have installed crux instead of slackware14:22
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teK_of course :}16:32
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