IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2012-07-14

cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: exiv2: Updated to 0.2300:30
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: libpthread-stubs: new maintainer03:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: polyglotman: new source url, new maintainer03:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xkeyboard-config: update to 2.603:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-bdftopcf: new maintainer03:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-bigreqsproto: update to 1.1.203:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-cf-files: new maintainer03:21
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-compositeproto : new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-damageproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-dmxproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-dri2proto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-fixesproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-*: new maintainer, fix dependencies03:52
Romsterhttp://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/w79zp/i_got_one_of_those_scam_calls_today/04:05
joe9romster, would you mind bumping the gnome-python version: http://codepad.org/UFKdnuXB06:06
joe9it needs cruxab repo06:10
joe9for dependencies06:10
Romsteri don't even use that anymore i'd rather remove it and you can clone it into your joe9 repo06:21
Romsterthen again i might use that for exaile, haven't got it listed as a dep...06:24
Romsterbloody gnome deps06:38
Romsterjoe9,  why that version and not something more recent?06:46
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clod89i don't understand what should go in /etc and what should go in /usr/etc for example dbus goes in /usr/etc which from what i read makes sense but then by looking at the bitlbee Pkgfile it goes in /etc, why?06:48
Romsterhow many times does this have to be explained.06:49
Romsteranything that is a daemon or in core.06:50
Romstergoes in /etc06:50
Romstereverything else /usr/etc06:50
Romsterit's in the handbook06:50
clod89Romster: well that's the point, why does dbus defaults in /usr/etc/? it is a daemon06:50
clod89Romster: i've read the handbook that's why i'm asking06:51
Romsterdaemons belong in /etc/06:52
Romsterunless it's not ran as root06:53
Romsterand dbus has two components but the majority run it as a season when x starts06:53
Romsteras there user06:53
joe9romster, I thought that was the most recent supported by gnome 2.32.106:54
joe9and gnome 2.32.1 is the one packaged by cruxab06:54
clod89Romster: i see, thanks, that clears things up i guess bitlbee goes in /etc since it would require super user privileges to be started06:58
Romsterthese paths are friggen weird one path to downloads has only the libs the other has the bindings.07:00
Romsterah difference between sources and bindings that's what's confusing me.07:05
clod89Romster: just for curiosity why isn't gallium enabled by default in mesa?07:08
Romsterjoe9, got it figured now silly paths had me confused.07:11
Romsterdon't know not using it but i can enable it if it don't cause many issues07:11
clod89Romster: i've enabled it and using it on my ati card and seems to be working fine, i'll run a couple of tests later but at least when i was using it in gentoo it gave a massive performance boost to the free driver07:13
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Romsterclod89, using official xorg or my xorg fork? also note that xorg is being updated officially07:44
clod89Romster: using the official xorg i recompiled mesa and some dependent packages as xorg-server and the drivers07:45
Romsteryou didn't get my memoserv message?07:46
clod89Romster: i don't even know what it is :-/07:47
Romster/ms read07:47
clod89"/ms read" not enough parameters given?07:48
Romsterwont matter now if you want to wait for offical xorg bump to be completed.07:48
Romster/ms read 107:48
Romsterthought it's meant to give help if no extra parms given07:48
clod89"/ms read 1" does not cut it either, anyway when it'll bump i'll eventually switch over to it07:50
Romsterffs what is it with this new services update.... /ms help07:50
Romstersee what the read command is07:50
Romsterit should notice you when you identify to services too.07:50
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Romsterback when i sent that ms i dind't knwo when it would go official.07:51
Romsterthought my bumped xorg would safe you some effort, nevermind.07:51
clod89i'll give it a look :-), while i'm at it, so far i've installed crux only on my secondary pc but in the next couple of weeks i wanted to install it on my main laptop, do you know if someone has already made a port for bumblebee? it is not in the ports db07:54
Romsternot in ports db then i wont know.07:54
Romstersome don't list there ports07:54
Romsterwhich they should.07:54
Romsteryou'll have to make your own if it can't be found07:55
clod89allirght i'll give it a shot then, only difficult part is installing the nvidia driver correctly since it needs some modifications not to conficlt with mesa07:56
Romsterhm07:56
Romsterstock mesa3d does not conflict with mesa3d07:57
Romstererr nvidia07:57
clod89Romster: "If you want to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver, you have to install it in a way such that its library files won't conflict with the Mesa libraries (notably libGL.so)." that's on the bumblebee page07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-bh-ttf: new maintainer, fix build issue07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-alias: update to 1.0.3, new maintainer07:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-font-util: update to 1.3.0, new maintainer07:58
Romsterhave you looked at nvidia package and gl-select ?07:58
clod89Romster: as a matter of fact both slackware and arch have different scripts to install nvidia07:59
clod89Romster: nope07:59
clod89* nvidia for bumblebee07:59
Romsterprt-get depinst nvidia ; prt-get depinst gl-select ; gl-select use xorg ; gl-select use nvidia; depmod -a07:59
Romsteredit xorg.conf for nvidia then startx07:59
clod89Romster: but with bumblebee X would use the intel card and another X server would be started (i guess nested) to be used with the nvidia card08:00
clod89when launching a program with the optirun command08:00
Romsterisn't bumblebee some any IM chat to irc relay?08:01
teK_bitlbee.08:01
Romsteroh right...08:01
Romsterme confusing crap08:01
Romsteri have no idea on bumblebee08:01
teK_clod89: will bumblebee work on anything else that's not an optimus-enabled laptop? (i.e. sandybridge desktop boards)08:02
Romsterbut i know mesa3d and nvidia do not clash and gl-select changes some symlinks for each08:02
clod89teK_: i don't think so since as far as i know it's an hardware switch in fact it uses the bbswitch module to turn the nvidia card on and off08:03
clod89Romster: well i'll try to figure it out when time comes :P08:03
teK_that's sad to hear08:04
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clod89just to give you an idea this is the slackbuild to install the nvidia driver specifically for bumblebee https://github.com/jgeboski/Bumblebee-SlackBuilds/blob/master/nvidia-bumblebee/nvidia-bumblebee.SlackBuild08:09
Romsterdoes it have to be installed any different as to how nvidia and gl-select work in crux?08:09
clod89Romster: i guess so08:10
Romsterit's not clear what extra archives this requires08:13
Romsterfrom what source.08:13
clod89Romster: all those symlinks i guess are what makes the difference08:13
Romsterhas to be more than that08:14
Romsterhttp://www.bumblebee-project.org/install.html#source08:17
clod89Romster: i've already looked at it, it gives instructions on how to compile bumblebee but not the proper way to compile and install the nvidia driver08:19
clod89Romster: it just says it does not have to conflict with mesa08:19
Romsteryeah i'm confused on that too.08:19
Romstermake DESTDIR=$PKG install08:20
Romsterthen review it's footprint08:20
clod89I'll dig it in the next weeks, right now i'm in the middle of my exams session i can't play around too much08:22
Romsterk08:23
Romsteryou could look at prt-verify out of pkg-utils too.08:24
Romsterfor checking for issues with conflicts08:24
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: shadow: introduce upper- and lower-bounds for SYS_{UID,GID} in login.defs (FS#810)08:28
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-gccmakedep: new maintainer08:49
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-glproto: 1.4.14 -> 1.4.15, new maintainer, new dependency xorg-util-macros10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-iceauth: new maintainer10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-imake: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5, new maintainer10:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-inputproto: 2.0.2 -> 2.2, new maintainer, new dependency xorg-util-macros10:16
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joe9i changed something in the pkg directory and want to rebuild the package manually.10:56
joe9what is the command to rebuild the package?10:56
joe9i applied a patch manually to the work folder in /var/pkgmk/work/..11:00
joe9is there anything to tell the prt-get or pkgmk to rebuild the package frmo there instead of downloading it again.11:00
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: dokuwiki: 2012-01-25a -> 2012-01-25b12:56
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: cryptsetup: 1.4.3 -> 1.5.013:03
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: git: 1.7.11.1 -> 1.7.11.213:03
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joe9romster, will you merge my ghc port into yours?14:03
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: qemu: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.114:07
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enteheh14:10
entethe history of the crux homepage is funny14:10
ente(on web.archive.org)14:10
entebasically, it's unchanged since 2006 or so :)14:11
frinnsthttp://imgur.com/wXYYV14:13
enteohgod!14:14
entea large quantity of people from my irc network came visit me for my 18th birthday :)14:15
frinnstyour irc network?14:15
frinnstalso, 18?14:16
frinnstwee14:16
frinnstthe teen-hell is almost over :)14:16
enteyeah, the last birthday I celebrated14:17
entewhy's being a teen hell?14:18
tilmanyours wasn't? o_O14:18
frinnstheh14:18
frinnstlife sucks when you're a teenager14:18
enteright now, the only thing that sucks is university, or rather, me sucking at university14:19
ente... and has been since I turned 1714:19
enteschool didn't suck, that was just mandatory bullshit where I was required to be present but they'd allow me to sleep14:20
frinnsthttp://imgur.com/prPWR14:20
entemy parents sucked, but I had the internet :P14:20
enteit was ok I guess14:21
frinnsthow old are you now?14:21
entealmost 2014:21
entehm, I should have installed crux instead of slackware14:22
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teK_of course :}16:32
ente:>17:46
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