IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2012-07-15

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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-cf-files: new maintainer01:35
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-kbproto: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6, new maintainer, new dep xorg-util-macros01:35
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-libdmx: 1.1.1 -> 1.1.2, new maintainer01:35
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-libfontenc: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1, new maintainer01:35
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-libfs: 1.0.3 -> 1.0.4, new maintainer01:35
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Romster-_- too much for poor cruxbot01:36
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-sessreg: 1.0.6 -> 1.0.7, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-setxkbmap: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-util-macros: 1.15.0 -> 1.17, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-videoproto: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-x11perf: 1.5.3 -> 1.5.4, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xauth: 1.0.6 -> 1.0.7, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xbacklight: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xbitmaps: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xcmiscproto: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xcursorgen: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xdpyinfo: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xdriinfo: new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xev: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0, new maintainer03:27
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xextproto: 7.2.0 -> 7.2.1, new maintainer03:27
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86driproto: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86vidmodeproto: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xgamma: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xhost: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xineramaproto: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xinput: 1.5.3 -> 1.6.0, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xkbcomp: 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xkill: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xmodmap: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.7, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xprop: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xproto: 7.0.22 -> 7.0.23, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xrandr: 1.3.4 -> 1.3.5, new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xrdb: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xset: new maintainer04:45
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: glib: updated to 2.32.405:06
tilmanseems the rsync export for xorg.git is broken05:51
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-elographics: 1.2.4 -> 1.3.0, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-evdev: 2.6.0 -> 2.7.0, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-joystick: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-keyboard: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-mouse: 1.7.0 -> 1.7.2, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-penmount: 1.4.1 -> 1.5.0, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: [notify] xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: 1.5.0 -> 1.6.2, new maintainer, new dep mtdev05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: mtdev: initial import05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-vmmouse: 12.7.0 -> 12.9.0, new maintainer05:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-void: new maintainer05:58
Romstertilman, it's disabled intentionally until it's all done.05:59
frinnstRomster: you forgot to change the maintainer on synaptics06:07
Romsteroh i'll get back to that06:13
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-imstt: removed obsolete port06:57
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-tseng: removed obsolete port06:57
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-vga: removed obsolete port use xorg-xf86-video-vesa06:57
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-xgi: removed obsolete port06:57
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-ark: 0.7.3 -> 0.7.4, new maintainer07:03
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-ati: 6.14.4 -> 6.14.6, new maintainer07:03
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-cirrus: 1.3.2 -> 1.5.0, new maintainer07:03
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-dummy: 0.3.4 -> 0.3.5, new maintainer07:03
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-fbdev: 0.4.2 -> 0.4.3, new maintainer07:03
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-geode: 2.11.12 -> 2.11.13, new maintainer07:03
Romsterugh i need a coffee break07:03
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-glint: 1.2.5 -> 1.2.7, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-i128: 1.3.4 -> 1.3.5, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: 2.17.0 -> 2.19.0, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-mach64: 6.9.0 -> 6.9.2, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-mga: 1.4.13 -> 1.6.0, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-neomagic: 1.2.5 -> 1.2.6, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-newport: 0.2.3 -> 0.2.4, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-openchrome: 0.2.904 -> 0.2.906, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-r128: 6.8.1 -> 6.8.3, new maintainer08:00
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-radeonhd: new maintainer08:00
tilmanxorg-xf86-video-radeonhd is obsolete08:01
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-savage: 2.3.2 -> 2.3.5, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-siliconmotion: 1.7.5 -> 1.7.6, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-sis: 0.10.3 -> 0.10.6, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-tdfx: 1.4.3 -> 1.4.4, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-tga: new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-trident: 1.3.4 -> 1.3.5, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-v4l: new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-vesa: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-vmware: 11.0.3 -> 12.0.2, new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-voodoo: new maintainer08:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-xgixp: new maintainer08:09
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: libdrm: remove packager08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-fontsproto: 2.1.1 -> 2.1.2, new maintainer08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-recordproto: 1.14.1 -> 1.14.2, new maintainer08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-server: new maintainer08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: new maintainer08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xdpyinfo: new maintainer, updated deps08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-nv: new maintainer, removed dep xorg-libxxf86misc08:43
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xset: removed dep xorg-libxxf86misc08:43
Romstershould be ready for testing if anyone wants to clone the git tree08:52
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-vmware: clean footprint09:11
frinnstyeah radeonhd should probably be removed09:12
Romsterthat is pretty old isn't it09:14
frinnsti dont think it supports kms even09:15
Romsteri haven't any ati to even test that.09:17
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Rotwanghi11:01
RotwangI need two 13cm car speakers11:01
Rotwangany suggestions?11:01
Romeo`jbl11:10
Romeo`alpine11:10
Romeo`blaupunkt11:10
jaegerfocal, infinity kappa11:10
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jaegerany of the above11:11
Romstergranted i do electronics but i don't do car stereos very often, depends on the depth and what your after i'd suggest looking at response11:11
jaegerspeakers that small are probably going to be very similar in mounting depth and throw across brands, I think. could be wrong, though11:12
Romstercoaxel 2-way, triaxel 3-way then there is the single driver then you have to consider the frequency range it can cover.11:14
Romstersize of the area it has to use for a baffle.11:14
Romsterimpedance11:14
jaegeraxial11:14
Romstermy spelling sucks11:17
Romsterbut i know what i'm talking about11:17
jaegerNobody said you don't, I only corrected that in case he searches11:17
Rotwanghttp://www.audiosklep.pl/hertz-dsk-130-p-460.html11:17
Rotwang91 dB, impedance 4ohm, 60 Hz - 21kHz11:18
Rotwangwhat about these?11:18
Romsterah ok :)11:19
Romsterlooks ok but no idea about that brand11:21
Romster91db 1w 1m is pretty common11:21
Romsterare these to match up with other existing speakers?11:22
RotwangI need to replace current ones11:22
Rotwangbecause they sound a bit dull comparet to my new front 12cm speakers11:22
Rotwangcompared*11:23
RotwangI have these in front: http://esxaudio.de/pages/quantum/qx-120.htm11:24
Rotwangand they are pretty good for me11:24
RotwangI need to find some 13cm that mach up with performance11:24
Romsteryou can get supper tweeters for car use11:25
RotwangI don't know what these are11:27
Rotwangalso ESX Quantum QX-52 look nice11:29
Romsteri'm calling it a night if you need a hand ask me tomorrow Rotwang11:30
Rotwangok thanks11:30
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frinnsthttp://i.imgur.com/J5HTt.jpg12:21
c0x`8)12:23
Rotwanghttp://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-koala-angry-water.jpg13:27
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veecouldn't manage to stick with gentoo. too sluggish compared to crux18:52
veealso, hi everyone18:52
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veegoing to try and rebuild teh kernel20:40
jaegerwhat did you find sluggish about gentoo? just curious20:41
veenot sure...just didn't feel as snappy to me20:42
veejust to make sure before i recompile the kernel...20:44
veewhen i go to save, i save as .config, right? lol20:44
jaegeryou can save it wherever you want, really, but .config is where it's expected by default20:45
veewell, i kept getting kernel panics about the file system not syncing....20:47
veeim sure you remember my issue with that when i first came to crux....it was me not saving the kernel config properly20:47
jaegerI didn't remember the details but yes20:47
jaegerif you want to be extra sure, copy the config file to .config and run 'make oldconfig' before the rest of the build20:48
veesame thing was happening...so, just making sure im not making the same mistake again20:48
jaegerif you just edited it in menuconfig, though, it should be in the right place unless you specifically told it to save somewhere else20:48
veenope. just saved it as .config....so it should be fine...20:48
veemaybe i stupidly forgot to install the modules. god knows20:48
veei noticed when i wrote changes to the disk in cfdisk, it said something along the lines of the program changes, something something. never did that before...20:50
veei also keep getting this warning saying i may need to install module-init-tool21:01
jaegerYou can ignore that one, it just doesn't know how to deal with kmod instead of module-init-tools21:02
veestill getting the same kernel error21:02
veeonly thing i can think of now is the swap parition is causing problems21:04
veesays /lib/udev/rule+generator.functions line 54 /dev/null: read-only file system21:04
veegot any ideas jaeger?21:06
jaegerdid you forget devtmpfs support?21:07
veelast time around, all i did was load the i386 defaults, and all was well. O.o21:07
veethough i dont think i built support for devtmpfs21:08
jaegerCONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y21:08
jaegerCONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y21:08
veeguess i have to re do everything again :P21:09
jaegeronly the kernel compile21:10
veehm. would i essentially boot up the crux cd, mount /dev/sda2 setup chroot, cd in the kernel and go from there?21:10
jaegeryep21:11
veesweet. im learning21:11
jaegerJust don't do any kind of mkfs21:11
veeyea, this poor hard drive has been formatted so many times... xD21:11
veealso... the / command to search for stuff is a nifty little tool i discovered...i use to just try to find crap on google. god...im so behind on this stuff lol21:14
rmullbehind some, in front of others...21:21
veejaeger, building support for devtmpfs doesn't change anything21:30
rmullvee: You sure you have support for your filesystem and storage subsystem okay?21:31
veei only have 2 partitions, one as root, the other as swap. using the root partition as boot as well21:31
veeonly need ext4 support like this21:32
veechecked the file system support, and, ext4 is there21:33
rmullOkay, and the support for your storage system? SATA for your motherboard, etc21:33
veearen't those built when you load the default i386_config?21:34
Romsternot this again -_-21:34
vee<321:34
Romsteryou could use your gentoo config perhaps21:34
veeim surprised you remember, romster21:34
Romsterbut it may need tweaking21:34
veei would...except i no longer have the config for it21:35
Romstersomethings i never forget easily this is one of them lol21:35
veeof all the ways to remember me...kernel panic is a damn shame haha21:35
veeanyways, rmull, last time i loaded the default i386 config, it booted up just fine21:36
Romsterlspci -k21:37
veeits pretty much all intel21:38
Romstertype / in menuconfig see if the modules have a * on them21:38
veeand when i check in the kernel config, they're selected21:39
veeall the intel stuff at least21:39
Romstergpt dos partition label FS21:39
veeim not sure what you mean21:39
Romsterdevtmpfs and automount devtmpfs21:39
veethose are built...jaeger suggested those too21:40
Romsterin filesystem21:40
Romsterpartition support21:40
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Romsterand ext4 or whatever your using for root built in *21:40
Romsternot as a M module21:41
veeext4 is, but i didn't see a partition support. do you mean parition types?21:41
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Romsteryep partiton type21:42
Romsterdos gpt21:42
RomsterCONFIG_SCSI is enabled as well?21:43
veenothing dos related in partition type21:43
Romsterms-dos21:43
Romsterthe oldest partiton type ever21:44
veethere is quite a bit of stuff that isn't built in scsi21:44
veebut i dont see ms-dos in partition types21:45
veethere is a dos/fat/nt filesystem, and its selected in there21:46
veemsdos fs support...21:46
Romsterhmm they have moved stuff in this newer kernel config21:46
Romsternah not that one21:46
RomsterSCSI disk support you need21:47
veeas for scsi, device support, target support, legacy, disk support, cd rom support generic support, vendor are selected21:47
veedisk support is enabled]21:47
RomsterEnable the block layer ->21:48
RomsterPartition Types21:48
RomsterPC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support21:49
RomsterEFI GUID Partition support21:49
veepc bios is there21:49
veeefi is also there21:49
Romsterwell that rules that out21:50
Romsteryour certain you got the right disk controller support21:50
veei dont want to be annoying, but how can i check?21:50
Romstersee the lspci -k details for disk controller then doa search /21:51
Romsterfor the model/name21:51
Romsterthen navigate to that and see21:51
veeim assuming the ide interface would be the disk controller?21:52
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Romsteralso disable and generic disk controller that causes problems with a specific device controller.21:53
Romsternot necessarily if it's SATA it'll be under libata21:53
Romsterunless it's a very old pc then it'll be ide21:53
veewell, its a pretty old pc...pretty sure its an ide21:54
Romsteralso make sure you got DEVTMPFS and DEVTMPFS_MOUNT enabled or newer udev wont populate /dev21:54
Romsterok so look in the ide section21:55
veeits the intel 82801eb/er ich5/ich5r21:55
veedevtmpfs is enabled21:55
veechecking the serial ata and parallel ata has all the intel stuff available as *21:57
Romsterbuilt in21:57
Romsterpastebin your lspci -k please21:57
Romsterah nevermind found it21:58
Romsteryou need ata_piix21:58
veei'd have to get on a live cd to give you anything21:58
veeone with a browser at least21:58
Romsterand PATA_MPIIX21:58
veethey're both enabled lol21:59
Romsternot sure if you need PATA_OLDPIIX probably not.21:59
veeperhaps its the generic controller thats causing the issue21:59
Romsteryeah disable the generic one21:59
veeoldpiix is enabled21:59
veelet me disable it and rebuild the kernel22:00
veesee if that helps22:00
Romsterit clashes with the specific controller so i have found.22:00
veeif not ill hop online, and give you the paste bin22:00
Romsterk22:00
Romsteri'll be out for quite a few hours heading back to work22:00
veeahhh booger.22:00
Romsteri'll log on at work22:00
vee<322:01
veewhen it first boots up, it says could not mount /dev/ext3 feature incompatible22:04
veebrings it to a filesystem check failed, and wants me to give it a root passowrd for maintanence22:06
rmullAre you sure it says /dev/ext3?22:09
veelooked like it22:09
veeit wouldn't let me dhcp, saying how read only. i mount -o remount,rw / and it seems fine22:10
veei can dhcp, ping out, everything...22:10
veehowever, running reboot says shutdown: /dev/initctl: no such file or directory22:12
veeinit: /dev/initctl no such file or directory22:13
rmullSomething's up with your /dev fs22:17
veeany ideas as to what? lol22:20
rmullIs udev running?22:28
veeto be honest, i wouldn't even know how to check lol22:28
veegoing to try to build support for ext2/3, see if that changes anything22:30
rmullps ax | grep udev22:30
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veesays 839 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon22:34
vee882 ? S 0:00 /sbin/udevd -daemon22:34
rmullfine22:35
vee883 ? S 0:00 /sbin;/udevd --daemon22:35
veelol22:35
veeis there anyway to log the errors it gives upon boot up?22:43
veejust going to give cruxex a try. cant seem to get this to work regardless of what i do. thanks for the help, guys22:48

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