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| vee_ | yep. seems like my shared library folder is messed up | 00:03 |
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| jaeger | run revdep and rebuild the ports with errors | 00:04 |
| vee_ | i'm not sure what you mean | 00:06 |
| jaeger | install prt-utils, run revdep | 00:08 |
| jaeger | it will tell you which ports have reverse dependency problems | 00:08 |
| jaeger | as in broken libraries | 00:08 |
| vee_ | assuming i'd have to rebuild the things it lists... | 00:10 |
| vee_ | oh boy, theres quite a bit | 00:10 |
| vee_ | anyways, thanks again jaeger | 00:11 |
| jaeger | np | 00:13 |
| vee_ | just one last question... | 00:14 |
| vee_ | i have to update -fr the application right? | 00:14 |
| jaeger | you could uninstall and reinstall it if you prefer but update -fr is easier | 00:18 |
| vee_ | yea i figured it'd be that... | 00:20 |
| vee_ | however, i have to rebuild chromium....lord have mercy | 00:21 |
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| Romster | vee_, prt-get update -fr `revdep` | 00:35 |
| Romster | some arsehole ripped my rear wiper off my car *mumbles* | 00:36 |
| vee_ | ill do that once i finish building, thanks romster | 00:50 |
| vee_ | sorry for your rear wiper :/ | 00:50 |
| vee_ | some dude tried to rip the wing off my car at school once | 00:50 |
| Romster | i hate when crap gets broken. | 00:52 |
| vee_ | i hope its not too expensive to repair | 00:52 |
| Romster | $46aud to replace but that's extra money i have to fork out. | 00:54 |
| vee_ | well, hopefully karma bitch slaps the theif in the face lol | 00:54 |
| Romster | and that still does not fix my urge to punch the shit out of the person that did it. if only i knew. | 00:54 |
| vee_ | i had one friend who got the front grill of her car stolen, along with the emblems and rims | 00:57 |
| vee_ | the campus police is useless lol | 00:58 |
| Romster | yeah cops can't do much about it it's already done. | 00:58 |
| vee_ | well, the school has hired a quite a few cops to patrol the place | 01:01 |
| vee_ | they have quite a staff, but still. they're hardly around, and hardly do their job | 01:01 |
| vee_ | except when they bust people for smoking too close to a non smoking area | 01:01 |
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| Romster | http://imgur.com/gallery/JnMm9 | 01:09 |
| Romster | http://imgur.com/gallery/12aQg that's disturbing. Samuel L. Jackson's face onto Samuel Barkson's body | 01:16 |
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| cruxbot | [xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: update to 2.20.2 | 02:46 |
| Romster | i was about to do that, but a visitor arrived and distracted me from completing that. | 03:27 |
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| Rotwang | jue: why won't we change -Os to some other flag inside makefile | 06:06 |
| Rotwang | or just add readme | 06:06 |
| Rotwang | ? | 06:08 |
| Romster | append CFLAGS after it? | 06:10 |
| Rotwang | if there is -Os | 06:11 |
| Romster | gcc has -Os what are you talking about Rotwang | 06:16 |
| Rotwang | Romster: that we want to switch from -Os to something else | 06:17 |
| Romster | -O2 is the default in pkgmk.conf | 06:18 |
| Rotwang | Romster: did you just wake up? | 06:18 |
| Romster | no i've been awake all day | 06:18 |
| Rotwang | I'm talking about vsftpd, jue closed ticked about it | 06:19 |
| Rotwang | it fails with -Os flag | 06:19 |
| Romster | pkgmk.conf IS -O2 has been for years, so make vsftpd respect $CFLAGS in the Pkgfile | 06:19 |
| Romster | so it overrides the ones in vsftpd. | 06:19 |
| Rotwang | Romster: I don't get you | 06:20 |
| Romster | patch/configure vsftpd so it wil append CFLAGS to the port. | 06:20 |
| Romster | will* | 06:20 |
| Rotwang | Romster: that is not the problem | 06:20 |
| Romster | some ports have a extra compiler flags argument that can be set too, that can be added to the bug tracker for that and hoplefully maintainer will fix it to use system flags. | 06:21 |
| Rotwang | jesus | 06:21 |
| Rotwang | nevermind, just forget the whole thing | 06:22 |
| Romster | oh that it fails with -O2 | 06:22 |
| Romster | err -Os | 06:22 |
| Rotwang | yes | 06:22 |
| Romster | jue said not to patch ports to deal with CFLAGS that break ports and if one wants to USE -Os then you must deal with that yourself. | 06:23 |
| Romster | not to those words but that's the just of what i got. | 06:23 |
| Rotwang | I don't see why | 06:23 |
| Romster | think about it how can we track every CFLAG that will break a port. | 06:23 |
| Rotwang | -Os is not ricing | 06:23 |
| Romster | take it up with juw | 06:23 |
| Romster | jue | 06:23 |
| Romster | if it was me i'd sed the -Os to -O2 | 06:24 |
| Romster | in the Pkgfile | 06:24 |
| Rotwang | we can't track every gcc flag, but since we know that one of them break the build we could do something with it | 06:24 |
| Romster | and in the future? | 06:24 |
| Rotwang | besides I see problem somewhere else | 06:24 |
| Romster | when there may be like 5 or 10 different flags that are changed? | 06:24 |
| Rotwang | it fails because of -Werror | 06:25 |
| Rotwang | -Werror is good for people maintaining the code, not everyone else | 06:25 |
| Rotwang | so it should be disabled | 06:25 |
| Rotwang | Romster: what kind of insane person sets 10 different CFLAGS? | 06:26 |
| Romster | me :D | 06:27 |
| Rotwang | ricer! [; | 06:27 |
| Romster | -Werror should be removed IMO | 06:27 |
| Rotwang | yeah | 06:27 |
| Romster | treat warnings as errors is jsut too harsh for packages and as you said is for the programmers to debug issues. | 06:28 |
| Rotwang | indeed | 06:28 |
| Romster | but then jue would argue that upstream should nto have that flag set for release mode :D | 06:38 |
| Rotwang | I think that upstream doesn't care | 06:39 |
| Rotwang | they release what they use for developement | 06:39 |
| Rotwang | which is probably a good idea | 06:40 |
| Romster | yeah but there is maintainer mode cflags for development then there is saner release flags | 06:40 |
| Romster | in any case if jue doens't want to fix it in the port that leaves two options upstream or making your own port and editing it. | 06:41 |
| Romster | i have thought of a pkgmk modfication for a /etc/pkgmk.d/ for portname to set overide flags per a port. | 06:43 |
| Rotwang | Romster: there you would have additional hustle to maintain that files | 06:51 |
| Romster | s/that/those | 07:22 |
| Romster | yeah but what can you do? | 07:22 |
| frinnst | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/07/27/2239251/gnome-staring-into-the-abyss <- seems everybody hates gnome :) | 07:24 |
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| ente | even gnome devs? | 07:45 |
| jaeger | My favorite part of that article was this: "Nobody can say if GNOME 3 is better or worse than GNOME 2. There is no recognized metric anywhere." | 07:54 |
| jaeger | I don't have hard numbers, obviously, but it seemed pretty clear that the general consensus was that GNOME 3 is hated. | 07:54 |
| jaeger | No official metric, sure, but definitive results | 07:54 |
| Romster | hence why MATE was created | 07:55 |
| jaeger | yep | 07:56 |
| rmull | Everyone hates change | 08:09 |
| jaeger | especially when it makes it harder to get things done | 08:09 |
| frinnst | and nobody asks for it | 08:20 |
| frinnst | same with windows8 | 08:21 |
| frinnst | I like how Valve said that win8 will be terrible for gaming and thus started a steam port to linux | 08:21 |
| tilman | phoronix has a headline that says "Is Blizzard getting Linux, too?" (not an exact quote) | 08:23 |
| * tilman rolls eyes big time | 08:23 | |
| frinnst | hah yeah, they do like their headlines | 08:24 |
| tilman | i feel dirty everytime i open that website (not very often) | 08:24 |
| frinnst | yeah | 08:24 |
| rmull | frinnst: Every other Windows release sucks | 08:27 |
| rmull | XP was good, vista sucked, 7 was good, 8 will suck | 08:28 |
| tilman | windows 95 sucked, windows 98 good, windows me sucked? | 08:28 |
| tilman | (yes, i'm baiting you into calling windows 98 good) | 08:29 |
| rmull | :| | 08:30 |
| rmull | Heeyyyy I'm a linux user, what do I know. | 08:30 |
| frinnst | windows 2000 was awesome | 08:30 |
| frinnst | it was the last windows os I used as a primary os | 08:30 |
| tilman | rmull: :D | 08:32 |
| tilman | rmull: sorry ;D | 08:32 |
| Romster | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4VtNLl6Ca4&feature=related | 08:38 |
| Romster | give me back my real pc :D | 08:39 |
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| jaeger | tilman: 98 was good.... compared to ME :) | 09:33 |
| frinnst | I installed win me on my dads computer | 09:50 |
| frinnst | still feel bad about it :( | 09:50 |
| deus_ex | frinnst: I am going to Italy tomorrow, I'll be gone for two weeks, so feel free to update my ports :) | 10:03 |
| Rotwang | which one are yours? | 10:07 |
| Rotwang | [; | 10:07 |
| deus_ex | I've got a few, jdk/jre and nvidia in opt64, opera and virtualbox-bin in contrib64. | 10:08 |
| Rotwang | ahh, I see | 10:09 |
| Rotwang | you've changed your nick | 10:10 |
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| frinnst | no worries, have fun on your vacation :) | 10:18 |
| frinnst | fuuuuuuucking neck. I have a pinched nerve. constant pain in my arm. maybe alcohol will help= | 10:20 |
| frinnst | ? | 10:20 |
| Romster | alcohol and a woman would probably fix that. | 10:27 |
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| Rotwang | women* | 10:31 |
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| jue | Rotwang: I'd suggest to report the -Os problem upstream | 10:42 |
| Rotwang | http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/1/19/14/enhanced-buzz-6400-1327001055-5.jpg | 10:54 |
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| Rotwang | http://picturepush.com/public/8841520 | 11:45 |
| Rotwang | etiquette from socks I bought from carrefour supermarket | 11:45 |
| Rotwang | I couldn't get better picture though | 11:46 |
| frinnst | hah | 11:46 |
| Rotwang | but the best is in yellow: | 11:47 |
| Rotwang | baolisha cocks co,.ltd | 11:47 |
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| Rotwang | how on earth someone could do two such a major typos | 11:52 |
| Rotwang | on a thing that is printed in tens of thousands | 11:52 |
| treach | "Cock" is a male bird. I remember seing somone on a mailinglist for birdwatchers getting into trouble for that. | 11:52 |
| Rotwang | but it was meant to be socks | 11:53 |
| Rotwang | on the other side of the etiquette it is written correctly | 11:53 |
| treach | lol, ok, I didn't realize that. | 11:54 |
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| Rotwang | treach: are you reading mailing lists for birdwatchers? | 11:54 |
| Rotwang | I wonder how such a list must look like | 11:55 |
| treach | Fwiw, we used to have a textile manufactuerer here who among other things produced bedsheets. The company was kalled "Tuppens", which translates as "The cocks". (As in the birdy thingy) | 11:55 |
| treach | No, I don't, I just happended to see it because he got into trouble because of overzealus moderation | 11:56 |
| Rotwang | hehe | 11:56 |
| Rotwang | I'm affraid to ask how female bird is called [; | 11:57 |
| treach | "Tuppens Lakan" -> "The Cocks' Bedsheets" used to be a household name here, back in the days. Yay for linguistic false friends | 11:57 |
| treach | or what you'd call it. I'm sure someone will spring up and correct that. First law of the Internet, I guess :> | 11:58 |
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| vee_ | hi | 14:03 |
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