IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2012-10-22

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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: ccrypt: update to 1.1001:46
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: imagemagick: new source URL01:46
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: msmtp: update to 1.4.3001:46
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: squid: update to 3.2.301:46
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: transmission: update to 2.2701:46
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: transmission-gtk: update to 2.2701:46
jueteK__: try s/-O3/-O2/ ;)01:47
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nogagplz_frinnst what's your obsession05:23
nogagplz_australia is a terrible place05:23
pitillofrinnst: is 2.8-x86_64-r2 currently the good one?05:39
pedjalibexec dir isn't used in crux, iirc?it should be /usr/lib?05:48
pedjaif so, qemu port should be modified...05:49
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frinnstpitillo: yeah, more or less06:31
frinnstthere might be some issues with the installer but once you get it installed, its all good :)06:31
frinnstnogagplz_: what? au looks awesome, albeit a bit scary with all the deadly stuff :/06:32
pitilloummm thank you frinnst, let's see how it goes this afternoon06:33
pitilloyo sepen06:33
sepenI wrote a little fix to imlib206:34
frinnstsepen: sharutils needs the 'gets' fix06:43
sepenahh ok06:43
sepenon 2.8 righ?06:43
frinnstsee the grub2 port for a fix06:46
sepenor cpio, diffutils, gettext, inetutils, m4, tar...06:47
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sependone, thanks frinnst ;)06:50
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rauzwhat is the best way to get multilib running on crux 2.7.1 x86_64 ?07:30
jaegerrauz: do you mean converting pure64 to multilib?07:35
rauzjep i need to run some 32bit ibm crap tools for my uni. project07:37
jaegerrauz: simplest way is to overwrite your toolchain, ports, and pkgutils with the ones from the multilib ISO07:38
jaegerrauz: also recompile your kernel with CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION enabled07:39
rauzi download the multilib iso from your site ?07:42
rauzthen mount the iso and pkgadd the toolchain07:44
jaegeryeah, pkgadd -u for glibc, glibc-32, binutils, gcc, pkgutils, and ports07:45
jaegerIt's been a while since I did that but I think that's everything. if you run into something else let me know. I need to update at some point, anyway07:45
rauzthanks i will try it,  hope i don't kill my system (it runs so nice :D)07:48
jaegerwell, if you do somehow break it you could go back and pkgadd the ports from the pure64 ISO to reverse the process07:48
jaegerrauz: one important note, prt-get isn't overridden in the multilib repos so you'll need to add /usr/ports/{core,opt,xorg}-multilib to prt-get.conf, preferably before the others07:50
Romsteri really need to figure why switching from fullscreen in xine-ui to window mode sometimes hangs X or the kernel or something. it's really annoying having to sysrq reboot my pc. and then i fond no traces of what caused it.07:56
rauzshoud i delete the {core,opt,xorg} none multilib then ?07:56
Romsterdoesn't do it all the time either...07:57
jaegerrauz: no, they're still used07:57
Romsteryou over lay i686 pure and multilib in that order.07:57
Romstermultilib core opt xorg contrib being above pure 64bit repos then the i686 ones last.07:58
Romsteralso do make sure "preferhigher no" is wither no or commented out in prt-get.conf or you'll end up in a wold of hurt.07:59
Romsterfixable though :)07:59
Romsterdon't forget to do rejmerge after pkgadd -u for glibc, glibc-32, binutils, gcc, pkgutils, and ports08:00
rauzrejmerge ?08:01
Romsteryes it's in the crux handbook08:03
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Lemon06anyone knows How to install the 3.1.0-rc9 kernel headers on my 32bits Crux linux please ?08:11
jaegerdon't do that unless you plan to rebuild everything08:11
Lemon06oh...still trying to install vmware tools on Mineos crux... it seems to be required08:12
jaegerThe vmware tools work with quite a few different kernels, not specifically 3.1.0-rc908:13
jaegerWhat errors are you getting?08:13
Lemon06only script config error: The path "" is not a valid path to the 3.1.0-rc9 kernel headers. Would you like to change it? [yes]08:13
jaegerAh, ok, so 3.1.0-rc9 is the kernel you're running08:14
* Lemon06 nods08:14
jaegerdoes the kernel source exist in /usr/src/linux?08:14
jaegerer, /usr/src/linux-3.1.0-rc908:14
Lemon06nope, no src dir exists08:15
Lemon06err it exists but empty08:15
jaegerok, then you should download 3.1.0-rc9. I was thinking you were following the mineos crux directions about upgrading your kernel which says to overwrite the system headers, which is bad08:15
Lemon06yes, i did some google searches to do that with no result08:16
Lemon06i guess its a Tar to extract then i link the vmware to script to /usr/src/linux-3.1.0-rc9 assuming the headers are in ?08:17
rauzjaeger: ok i did pkgadd -u the packages then confed the prt-get.conf rejmerged and have the ia32 thing in the kernel buildin, reboot and prt-get update ?08:17
jaegerLemon06: the vmware tools installer expects to find the source in /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) and a symlink to it at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build - once those are in place it should work08:18
jaegerrauz: should be good to go, yeah08:18
rauzcu soon i hope :D08:19
Lemon06jaeger: gonna try, thx08:19
jaegerLemon06: if you can't find the source for 3.1.0-rc9 you can upgrade the kernel to a newer one like the mineos wiki suggests08:19
RomsterLemon06, you could modify this to suit your needs then edit your glibc port to point to the headers and rebuild everything, or package the new headers up in a tarball and host it then edit existing glibc.08:19
jaegerLemon06: Just DO NOT run the "make INSTALL_HDR_PATH" line08:20
jaegerRomster: unnecessary complication for installing vmware tools, though08:20
Lemon06yeah since im not that skilled...step by step im going ;)08:21
Romsteri've hit a misisng feature wither too old kernel headers before.08:21
Romsterregardless i wouldn't run a release candidate set of headers either.08:22
jaegerprobably not a big deal if the system is built against those, which I assume mineos crux was08:23
Lemon06following mineos wiki :
jaegerIt's mostly ok, just skip the "make INSTALL_HDR_PATH" line, that's a bad idea08:26
Lemon06i won't thx08:26
Lemon06(im slow but i build a tutorial from scratch to install Tools)08:28
rauzwuhu thanks jaeger now the crap ibm software stuff runs08:31
jaegergood deal :)08:31
Romsteri must adoubt touching glibc and kernel headers can be a whole world of hurt.08:32
Romsteri haven't done anything like that in a long time.08:33
Romsterjaeger, i don't see what's so bad with INSTALL_HDR_PATH could you enlighten me on that one.08:40
Romstermake INSTALL_HDR_PATH=$PKG//usr/share/$name headers_install <- was doing that ages ago with no ill effects.08:41
Romsterthen including that path in glibc.08:41
jaegertake a closer look at that wiki page08:41
jaegerit overwrites the headers in /usr/include08:41
jaegerit's not in a package08:41
Romsterah that does, not how i did wont.08:41
Romsteryeah overwriting system headers is bad.08:41
Romsteron a system08:42
Romsterrauz, welcome to multilib :)08:55
Romsterhmm we should have a multilib mailing list too jaeger08:56
Lemon06jaeger: i have some errors but maybe i can continu and live with ?
jaegerI didn't see a need for a multilib-specific ML, honestly. When 3.0 hits the main and devel lists will suffice08:57
jaegerLemon06: never seen that one. Is that a fresh copy of the source tree?08:59
Lemon06wow im just following the mineos wiki
jaegerdoes /usr/src/linux-3.3.4/scripts/basic exist?08:59
Romsteroh true it would be such low volume it may as well be the devel list09:00
Lemon06jaeger: yes it exists, 3 files in09:00
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jaegerLemon06: try a 'make mrproper' and then start again from the 'cp linux-3.1.0-rc9.config .config' step?09:01
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Lemon06jaeger: same errors09:04
jaegerDon't know what to tell you, sorry. I've never seen that error09:05
Lemon06jaeger: gonna try to change permissions of that file : .fixdep.d09:06
Romsterzcat /proc/config.gz > ./.config && make oldsilentconfig09:07
Romstermake clean && make -j409:08
Romsteror how many cores you have jobs.09:08
Romsteri have never personally had a need for mrproper but there could be a first time.09:12
Lemon06restarting from scratch (this time with vm snapshots)09:13
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: update to 2.20.1209:30
Lemon06same errors after a clean install, grr it reports an open permission denied on scripts/basic/.fixdep.d09:34
jaegerare you building as root or as mc?09:34
Lemon06mc sudo09:34
jaegertry building it as root, perhaps09:34
jaegerAs far as I know you should be able to build it fine without sudo or root privs but something's odd with the permissions error there09:35
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: subversion-perl: updated to 1.7.709:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: subversion-python: updated to 1.7.709:37
Lemon06it works as root, thx again09:38
jaegernp. most likely some part that you ran with sudo caused files to be written with root permissions which mc couldn't use09:38
Lemon06its compliling (i left the config options as default, bypassing the finetune options)09:51
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.7709:55
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: scite: update to 3.2.309:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: lvm2: update to 2.02.9809:57
Lemon06another error in the Mineos wiki : lilo config in screeenshot image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.0 while it should be (i think) image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.3.410:26
jaegeryeah, the author probably didn't feel like updating the screenshot10:27
Lemon06so my lilo delay for 100 then run the default (old) kernel10:40
Lemon06can i just replace the image block and remove delay&prompt ? suggestion at
Lemon06nevermind, just tested successfully uname-r 3.3.410:47
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Lemon06vmware tools running ! Thx alot Jaeger ! draft tutorial :
jaegerglad you got it working11:22
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Lemon06now i would try on 64bits...11:27
jaegerShould work the same way as long as the 64-bit vmware tools installer doesn't try to use any 32-bit stuff11:27
Lemon06+ another kernel image i guess11:30
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Lemon06jaeger: on reboot vSphere client says Tools is intalled but not running :/11:56
Lemon06a service to add or something11:56
jaegerthere should be a script in /etc/rc.d called vmware-tools, add it to the SERVICES line in /etc/rc.conf11:56
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Lemon06jaeger: you rock :)12:02
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rauzcan i change the default font from my system so a custom installed ttf font ?14:26
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frinnstwhat, the console font?15:24
frinnstnot to a ttf-font15:24
frinnstthere are fonts you can use for the console.. google for it15:29
rauzok thanks frinnst15:31
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Lemon06jaeger: as im working to install vmware tools on the *64bits* version of mineos, i have a question20:25
Lemon06compilation worked as expected but next step is : cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-3.3.4   but i see an arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage20:34
Lemon06unfortunatly the arch/x86_64 is most empty and its bzImage under boot is only 22 bytes, im afraid to use that one...20:36
Romsteruse arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage20:37
Romster22 bytes seems wrong20:38
Romsteri get a report that arch/x86/boot/bzImage is created on my 64bit system but arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage exists.20:38
Lemon06yes, and the x86 one looks really bigger20:39
Lemon06i doubt of the 22 bytes one20:39
Romster$ ls -l /usr/src/linux-3.6.3-pf/arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage20:39
Romsterlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Oct 17 22:25 /usr/src/linux-3.6.3-pf/arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage -> ../../x86/boot/bzImage20:39
RomsterO_O it's a symlink20:39
Lemon06oh my bad, thx20:39
Romster$ file /usr/src/linux-3.6.3-pf/arch/x86/boot/bzImage20:40
Romster/usr/src/linux-3.6.3-pf/arch/x86/boot/bzImage: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.6.3-pf (root@arkanoid) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 17 22:25:38 EST, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x3, Normal VGA20:40
Romsterhrmm does this mean my kernel is x86 and not x86_64 that can't be true20:40
Lemon06that x86_64 dir is really empty compared to the x8620:41
Romsteri thought the path was different but why a symlink back20:42
Lemon06for some software perhaps20:43
Romsterconfused but it has to be 64bit20:43
Romsteri guess the x86_64 is just a compatibility path20:44
Lemon06yes, must be, like the simlink lib64 pointing to lib20:45
Romsterthat's mostly for binary crap iirc.20:46
Romsterlooking in lib64 path20:47
Romstereverything else would be configured to find the correct set path.20:47
Lemon06yup, i learn linux everyday =)20:48
Romsterhard coded rpath20:50
Lemon06i guess that bzImage file is the first one executed at boot time20:53
Lemon06or something...20:53
Lemon06but i wonder whats System.map20:54
Romsterit's the locatiosn of symbools in KO files20:55
Romsterwhat depmod -a uses.20:56
Romsteralong with other kernel modules it scans and loads.20:56
Lemon06whatever i have to copy it to /boot/
Romstera cache sort of like how ldconfig works but for kernel modules20:56
Lemon06hum i see20:57
Romsteri don't think you even need if you have no kernel modules what so ever.20:57
Romsterbut that is rare20:58
Romstermust go back to work later.20:58
Lemon06see you :)20:58
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Lemon06jaeger: fyi i found a way to make it work for the 64bits version (the weirdest hacking of my life :p)22:54
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