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| cruxbot | [core.git/2.7]: [notify] exim: update to 4.80.1, security fix for CVE-2012-5671 | 04:13 |
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| joe9 | anyone still hesitating to migrate to 2.8? | 06:38 |
| joe9 | i am on 2.7.1 and am eyeing the upgrade to 2.8, but, am not keen on spending time on any issues that might arise. | 06:39 |
| joe9 | not sure if it is a smooth upgrade. | 06:39 |
| joe9 | any experiences of unhappy upgrades? | 06:39 |
| joacim | i just cant be arsed | 06:47 |
| joacim | i'll get to it in a week or so i guess | 06:47 |
| joe9 | romster, are you on 2.8? | 06:56 |
| pedja | Update to 2.8 was smooth, but revdep list was a mile long, at least for me :) | 07:02 |
| pedja | just make sure to install glu from xorg repo, I missed that one :) | 07:04 |
| frinnst | if you use the iso the installer will do that for you | 07:04 |
| pedja | frinnst: With the fresh install, I went the upgrade route :) | 07:05 |
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| frinnst | it should inject those packages also if you chose the upgrade option | 07:06 |
| frinnst | it did for me on one of my machines | 07:06 |
| frinnst | as well as "rename" util-linux-ng -> util-linux | 07:06 |
| frinnst | and other stuff i've forgotten | 07:06 |
| pedja | not here.not a big deal, though. | 07:07 |
| frinnst | user error, must be | 07:08 |
| frinnst | :D | 07:08 |
| frinnst | did you check the install log when it was completed? | 07:08 |
| pedja | all ok. | 07:08 |
| frinnst | hmm, thats not good | 07:09 |
| pedja | all ok not good ? | 07:09 |
| pedja | i made usbimage, since I don't have empty cds/dvds, and used that to update. | 07:10 |
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| frinnst | well if it failed to inject those packages then something is wrong | 07:11 |
| joe9 | pedja, so there is a upgrade route? | 07:11 |
| frinnst | joe9: of course | 07:11 |
| frinnst | just boot the media, mount your / and run setup | 07:11 |
| pedja | unetbootin does not work, but Intels usb image writer I have from Meego did the work. | 07:11 |
| frinnst | why not just dd if=crux.iso of=/dev/usbstick ? | 07:12 |
| pedja | script has some sanity checks :) | 07:12 |
| pedja | i tried using iso directly, it didn't work, wouldn't boot, so I made usbimage. | 07:13 |
| joe9 | i have my root on a raid-1 partition. I can remove one disk from the raid-1, mount it, upgrade it to 2.8 from 2.7.1, then I would have to reboot with the new disk as root, correct? | 07:14 |
| joe9 | is there a different/better way to do the upgrade? | 07:14 |
| pedja | apparently usb stick was fscked, though, so iso should have worked. | 07:14 |
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| frinnst | you did use the final iso, or one of the rc's? i think i forgot to run the hybrid thingy of one of the release candidates :) | 07:17 |
| pedja | rc2 | 07:18 |
| frinnst | ah yeah | 07:18 |
| frinnst | then its my fault | 07:18 |
| frinnst | (i suck) | 07:18 |
| pedja | no worries, I ran hybrid thingie on it, just in case :) | 07:18 |
| frinnst | the inject thingy also | 07:18 |
| frinnst | :) | 07:19 |
| pedja | inject took care of util-linux rename, afaict | 07:19 |
| pedja | btw, i have util-linux-2.22.50 installed. | 07:20 |
| pedja | wrt qt4, qt-4.8.3 is latest stable, why is our still at 4.8.1? | 07:22 |
| pedja | I tried to update the port, and send the patch, but source is missing from the download page, at least for area where I live :) | 07:24 |
| joe9 | pedja: what is the "hybrid thingy"? I have a machine on 2.7.1 x86 and another on x86_64 | 07:25 |
| joe9 | do i have to worry with the "hybrid thingy"? | 07:26 |
| pedja | if you download final iso, no | 07:26 |
| joe9 | ok, thanks. | 07:26 |
| pedja | it is magic, so you can use the iso file with usb stick, if you don't want/don't have a cd-rom/dvd :) | 07:27 |
| joe9 | i have my root on a raid-1 partition. I can remove one disk from the raid-1, mount it, upgrade it to 2.8 from 2.7.1, "then switch_root to the 2.8 system" -- Can I "switch_root" to the new upgraded mount? | 07:28 |
| krue | Romster,VileTimes: I use runit with crux as well | 07:36 |
| jaeger | joe9: you shouldn't need to break your raid to upgrade | 07:42 |
| jaeger | pedja, frinnst: 2.8's setup-helper does inject glu if mesa3d is installed | 07:44 |
| joe9 | jaeger: How else can I do the upgrade without breaking the raid? | 07:50 |
| joe9 | jaeger: /dev/md0 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered,errors=remount-ro) -- is the mount entry for my / partition. | 07:51 |
| jaeger | are you trying to do it in some unusual way? Not from the CD? | 07:52 |
| jaeger | The CD does support mdadm | 07:53 |
| joe9 | jaeger: no unusual way. i just want to upgrade from 2.7.1 to 2.8. sometime ago, i think you mentioned that there was no upgrade path (i might be recalling wrongly, too) | 07:55 |
| joe9 | "just put the cd and do upgrade on /" -- is it as simple as that? | 07:55 |
| jaeger | 2.7.1 -> 2.8 is the proper upgrade path. :) | 07:55 |
| jaeger | boot the CD and do the upgrade as in the handbook | 07:55 |
| jaeger | since the CD has no mdadm.conf on it your md0 will probably be created as md127 temporarily when you boot it. you can change it to md0 by stopping and reassembling it if you like | 07:56 |
| joe9 | ok, got it. thanks. for one machine, I do not have a cd drive, but, I think I can use a bootable usb stick on that one. | 07:57 |
| joe9 | jaeger: thanks. | 07:57 |
| jaeger | The 2.8 ISO is hybrid, you can boot it from USB | 07:57 |
| jaeger | no problem | 07:57 |
| krue | Has the multilib iso been released? | 08:04 |
| jaeger | krue: http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/files/multilib/ | 08:05 |
| krue | Thanks, jaeger. I hope to have time this weekend to upgrade. | 08:13 |
| jaeger | np | 08:14 |
| pedja | exim.org must be on another planet... | 09:02 |
| jaeger | It takes a while for packets to get here from the mars rover :D | 09:02 |
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| pedja | 14min6s from Mars.This takes longer :) | 09:04 |
| pedja | and it fails... | 09:04 |
| jaeger | doh, heh | 09:05 |
| pedja | I'll leave exim update for later, lunch time. | 09:05 |
| Necrosporus | Have you ever tried to count how many times CRUX was downloaded? | 09:08 |
| frinnst | grep -c crux-2.8-x86_64.iso access_log | 09:10 |
| frinnst | 264 | 09:10 |
| frinnst | best I can do :) | 09:10 |
| Necrosporus | jaeger, what's the difference compared to one from obra.se? both seem x86_64 | 09:28 |
| Necrosporus | frinnst, that's from obra.se? | 09:29 |
| krue | jaeger's iso is multilib. frinnst's iso is pure 64bit. | 09:45 |
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| frinnst | Necrosporus: yeah | 10:04 |
| Necrosporus | krue, pure means with just /lib instead of /lib64 ? | 10:05 |
| jaeger | Necrosporus: pure only runs 64-bit code. multilib runs both 64-bit and 32-bit | 10:09 |
| jaeger | they both use /lib for 64-bit libraries, multilib uses /lib32 for 32-bit | 10:09 |
| Necrosporus | jaeger, so the difference is kernel support only? | 10:10 |
| jaeger | No, it's more complicated than that | 10:10 |
| jaeger | the toolchain has to support both as well | 10:10 |
| jaeger | kernel, gcc, glibc, binutils, etc. | 10:11 |
| frinnst | sepen: http://2d7499f2e2c27010.paste.se/ | 10:50 |
| frinnst | qt4 diff from my desktop | 10:50 |
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| Rotwang | I dont know how this happened but raspberry pi came from rs components | 10:59 |
| Rotwang | I don't remember paying for it | 11:00 |
| Rotwang | so now I have two raspberrys | 11:00 |
| Rotwang | or raspberries | 11:00 |
| Rotwang | I think I'll put them together into a cluster :D | 11:00 |
| jaeger | nice :) | 11:02 |
| Rotwang | their leds are quite bright so I'll additionally have a lamp | 11:04 |
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| krue | http://skarnet.org/software/s6/ "systemd is yet another Linux init system that includes a coffee machine" | 14:39 |
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| pedja | coffee machine is actually usefull and has far fewer moving parts :) | 14:53 |
| pedja | to cite Linus "udev maintainers are barking mad" <--paraphrased, that | 14:56 |
| jaeger | stop the crazy! | 14:58 |
| pedja | amen to that | 14:58 |
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| passager | hi, I am new here, French speaking, comingfrom NuTyX, the French distro using the Crux's tools having closed her activities last evening | 15:27 |
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| passager | what is the most easy way to install Crux? does Crux install and use Kde incl. Office? Calligra or Kde-Office | 15:30 |
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| frinnst | no, the crux install is very minimal | 15:41 |
| passager | hm | 15:41 |
| frinnst | there is a kde repository though | 15:42 |
| passager | can I use the packages from NuTyX in Crux? | 15:42 |
| passager | ah ok? well | 15:42 |
| frinnst | i dont know anything about nutyx, sorry | 15:42 |
| passager | nutyx is/was a very complete distribution using the tools of Crux to make the packages | 15:44 |
| passager | and installable as Linux runs from an other distribution (!) | 15:44 |
| passager | with packages as Crux packages in *.pck.tar.xz | 15:44 |
| passager | I actually always use Nutyx in my desktop PC | 15:45 |
| frinnst | crux packages are just tarballs. there are no scripts or other magic that does stuff once you install something | 15:45 |
| passager | and have Kde 4.9.2 and Calligra 2.5.2 | 15:45 |
| frinnst | well, a database tracking packages and files exist | 15:46 |
| tilman | passager: does nytux use the same package format as crux? | 15:46 |
| passager | yes, I suppose absolutely | 15:47 |
| tilman | the name nytux seems to make much more sense than nutyx | 15:47 |
| tilman | btw | 15:47 |
| passager | the manpages of our tools are the French translation of the Crux pages | 15:47 |
| frinnst | btw, all nls stuff is stripped from crux. so you'll end up with english packages | 15:48 |
| passager | it would be no problem! | 15:49 |
| passager | I am accoutumed to use them! I only never did learn English at school | 15:49 |
| passager | I can write, use software, and from time to time read the doc ;-) (depending if the author did use the vocabular I am accoutumed to!) | 15:50 |
| frinnst | Well i suggest you setup a virtual machine and try it out :) | 15:57 |
| passager | thank you! bye! | 16:02 |
| joe9 | where can I find the pure frinnst's x86_64 iso? | 16:12 |
| frinnst | http://www.obra.se/c64/2.8/ | 16:13 |
| frinnst | maybe someone with +rw can add it to the download page? | 16:14 |
| joe9 | is it as simple as: sudo dd if=crux-2.8-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdc -- where sdc is my usb disk? | 16:25 |
| joe9 | frinnst: any thoughts, please? | 16:25 |
| frinnst | yes | 16:25 |
| joe9 | frinnst: thanks. | 16:25 |
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| Romster | krue, mind showing me your work to get runit going or did you pinch most of my ports and just reworked them? | 18:15 |
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| Romster | yet antoehr firefox update ugh | 18:30 |
| frinnst | :) | 18:57 |
| jaeger | frinnst just likes to torture you | 19:00 |
| Romster | i think qt4 did that enough to frinnst already | 19:05 |
| Romster | http://pastebin.com/z6TZa4aZ something wrong i can't get it to update | 19:06 |
| jaeger | Anyone have an ubuntu 10.04 desktop install handy? | 19:07 |
| Romster | i've tried multiple times. | 19:07 |
| jaeger | It was updated in 2.8 | 19:08 |
| Romster | oh so i' now i'm forced to update to 2.8 when i know not all the stuff i use builds yet -_- | 19:08 |
| Romster | i know i can manually bump it | 19:08 |
| jaeger | that's a bit of a strange thing to say | 19:08 |
| jaeger | a firefox bump doesn't force you to 2.8 | 19:09 |
| Romster | no but something like that should of been bumped in 2.7 and 2.8 | 19:09 |
| Romster | for a time period anyways, for the slower ones to move to 2.8 | 19:09 |
| Romster | like 6 months or something. | 19:09 |
| Romster | or is that just too much effort for a small distro like us? | 19:10 |
| Romster | also i dunno what i'm gonan do with tetex in 2.8 other than package an older gcc just to compile that unless i can find patch to fix it. | 19:11 |
| frinnst | right, forgot to push to 2.7 | 19:14 |
| frinnst | fixed | 19:14 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.7]: [notify] firefox: updated to 16.0.2. | 19:14 |
| Romster | thanks frinnst i was going crazy not realising it wasn't in 2.7 | 19:15 |
| frinnst | :) | 19:16 |
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| Pingax | For information, main alsa project's ftp server is down, so alsa-lib-1.0.26 can't be downloaded. I've found it there : http://alsa.cybermirror.org/lib/ | 19:46 |
| Pingax | As firefox requires it... | 19:47 |
| frinnst | yeah it's been down for a month or somethign | 19:50 |
| frinnst | their bugtracker is also down | 19:51 |
| nogagplz | pulseaudio saboteurs at work | 19:52 |
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| prologic | I now have an proxmox ve server if anyone would like to attempt to create a crux vz template? | 21:32 |
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| Romster | a month... | 22:09 |
| Romster | Pingax, i got a mirror of most distfiles here http://romster.dyndns.org/distfiles/ | 22:09 |
| Romster | 's|$|export ...| adds to end of every line how do i append with sed than using echo foo >> | 22:10 |
| Romster | else i have to drop to root to do echo foo >> /.../foo | 22:11 |
| Romster | wheres i can do sudo sed ... | 22:11 |
| jaeger | you could do sudo tee, probably | 22:12 |
| jaeger | though I'll admit I don't exactly understand what you're asking, that sentence was really hard to parse | 22:12 |
| Romster | i'm seding some lines already with sudo sed ... | 22:12 |
| Romster | i'd like to append some lines to end of file using sed if possible. | 22:13 |
| Romster | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/sed-append-text-to-end-of-line-if-line-contains-specific-text-how-can-this-be-done-684650/ found that but that adds to end of every line. | 22:13 |
| jaeger | 'echo blah | sudo tee -a file' perhaps | 22:13 |
| Romster | surely sed has a regex to append a single line to end of file. | 22:13 |
| Romster | append to a new line that is... | 22:14 |
| jaeger | don't know, I'd probably just use sudo tee for it :) | 22:15 |
| Romster | i could of figured that out.... i want some regex fu << | 22:15 |
| Romster | trolling the net. | 22:16 |
| Romster | i know i could insert to line number perhaps. | 22:16 |
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| Romster | hmp i guess everyone just sues another tool than to learn REGEX | 22:20 |
| Romster | uses* | 22:21 |
| jaeger | well, using a simple tool for a simple job is kinda the unix way | 22:22 |
| jaeger | if there's a sed regex to do it, great, but if not, there's always another option | 22:22 |
| Romster | well line 1 is easy to do with 1 but end of file is another deal | 22:23 |
| jaeger | try sed '$a whatever' | 22:25 |
| Romster | that does end of line though | 22:25 |
| Romster | oh hmm maybe not lets see | 22:25 |
| jaeger | vindication/jaeger ~ $ cat testfile | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 1 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 2 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 3 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | vindication/jaeger ~ $ sed -i '$a WTF' testfile | 22:26 |
| jaeger | vindication/jaeger ~ $ cat testfile | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 1 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 2 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | 3 | 22:26 |
| jaeger | WTF | 22:26 |
| Romster | eek seems every second line gets that. | 22:27 |
| Romster | oh $a damn i did a | 22:27 |
| jaeger | the $ is important, think of it regex-style | 22:28 |
| Romster | $ = end | 22:28 |
| jaeger | yep | 22:28 |
| jaeger | and don't give it a pattern match or it will append to every matched line | 22:28 |
| Romster | omg ty jaeger that is it. | 22:30 |
| Romster | funny i can't find that searching on the net | 22:30 |
| Romster | even with 'regex end of file Anchor' | 22:30 |
| jaeger | I just tried a couple things until it worked | 22:30 |
| Romster | i'm a idiot for not thinking of a | 22:33 |
| Romster | crap a few lines i have #export and it screws up on those. | 22:40 |
| Romster | i even escaped it with \# but on single quotes that probably wont work. | 22:41 |
| Romster | might jsut have to use tee -a :/ | 22:45 |
| Romster | tee it is on all of it i just can't figure this out | 22:49 |
| Romster | and of course tee works flawlessly i guess the moral of the story is don't learn how another tools does it jsut pick a easier tool to use when you don't need something as complex | 22:56 |
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