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| Romster | so you want dedicated not some cloud VM? | 00:00 |
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| prologic | correct | 00:00 |
| prologic | I want to run proxmox ve on it | 00:00 |
| Romster | hmm 500GB might be pricey, i'll see what i can find. | 00:01 |
| prologic | I'm not running a hypervisor on top of a hypervisor :) | 00:01 |
| prologic | well 250GB hdd | 00:01 |
| prologic | doesn't matter really | 00:01 |
| Romster | lol that would not go down well. | 00:01 |
| prologic | the crux containers frinnst and I created are only ~150MB | 00:01 |
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| Romster | i've been meaning to move to openvz on hvlinux so i may use your container at some point. | 00:18 |
| Romster | though i arn't sure if i should, i might get far less hdd space as a result. | 00:18 |
| Romster | i probably hog too much with distfiles as it is now. | 00:18 |
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| prologic | far less hdd space? | 00:35 |
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| timcowchip | I tried to install 3.0 last night | 00:51 |
| timcowchip | I left the kernel menu as default | 00:52 |
| timcowchip | should I have added a few things? | 00:52 |
| timcowchip | ext4? | 00:53 |
| bedis | I usually let in modules the wifi driver and a few stuff like that | 00:53 |
| bedis | that I may need to unload/reload | 00:53 |
| prologic | I was going to say it's entirely dependent on your hw | 00:53 |
| prologic | and fs choice | 00:53 |
| bedis | otherwise, everything is compiled within the kernel | 00:53 |
| timcowchip | I chose ext4 | 00:54 |
| timcowchip | do I need to add it in the menu? | 00:54 |
| timcowchip | I wish there was more documentation | 00:56 |
| timcowchip | other than pressing "?" during the install | 00:56 |
| timcowchip | it didn't boot make all | 00:57 |
| timcowchip | after mke all | 00:57 |
| timcowchip | I don't use wifi | 00:58 |
| bedis | timcowchip: compile ext4 in the driver | 00:58 |
| bedis | s/driver/kernel/ | 00:58 |
| bedis | you must have a star (*) in the column | 00:59 |
| timcowchip | ok its not there by default | 00:59 |
| bedis | if you have a M, it means it will be compiled as a module | 00:59 |
| timcowchip | so ext4 is not compiled as a module, but is a driver? | 01:00 |
| bedis | compiled in | 01:02 |
| timcowchip | can I use my old grub to boot it? | 01:02 |
| bedis | directly inside the kernel | 01:03 |
| timcowchip | ok (*) | 01:03 |
| timcowchip | input devices already there? | 01:03 |
| timcowchip | I'll look closer this time | 01:04 |
| timcowchip | I've got grub on /dev/sda from my debian install | 01:05 |
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| timcowchip | can I just update-grub to find crux? | 01:05 |
| klrr | hello | 01:05 |
| timcowchip | os-prober finds it if I mount first | 01:06 |
| timcowchip | hello | 01:06 |
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| frinnst | yawn | 02:29 |
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| joacim | frinnst: it is rough to get up this early | 03:06 |
| frinnst | ive been up for quite a while, just not really awake though :) | 03:11 |
| frinnst | why does ubuntu server insist on installing stuff like ntfs3-g? | 03:12 |
| Romster | i dunno perhaps it thinks you'll want to access ntfs mounts. | 03:21 |
| Romster | because ubuntu wants stuff to just work and ntfs3g isn't a big port. | 03:21 |
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| frinnst | yeah but on a headless *server*? | 04:59 |
| diverse | why ubuntu server? | 05:10 |
| Romster | is krb5 building for anyone else on crux 3.0 ? | 05:41 |
| frinnst | diverse: 5 years of security updates | 05:47 |
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| jaeger | I use ubuntu server for most of my stuff here at work | 05:52 |
| jaeger | Romster: pkgutils can open plain tars now so the krb5 port needs a bit of an update | 05:54 |
| bedis | Romster: I remeber fighting with it last WE when upgrading | 05:58 |
| bedis | but can't remember how I won the fight.... | 05:58 |
| jaeger | line 14 needs to be removed, that's all | 06:00 |
| Romster | oh | 06:00 |
| Romster | why is it tarballed twice O_O | 06:01 |
| jaeger | probably for signing | 06:01 |
| Romster | anyways that fixed it. | 06:01 |
| jaeger | though they could have signed the first one | 06:01 |
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| Romster | yeah it's already got a tar.gz in side of it. | 06:02 |
| jaeger | yeah | 06:02 |
| jaeger | It was just a guess, ask upstream if you want to know for sure :) | 06:02 |
| Romster | not too fussed, just seems odd. | 06:03 |
| jaeger | definitely | 06:04 |
| Romster | i must of missed the last update i thought the bump was just the arch variable change. | 06:04 |
| Romster | playing it safe testing all ports in a chroot before up update my pc. | 06:04 |
| jaeger | I was going to mention one to you yesterday and forgot, damn | 06:06 |
| jaeger | it had extra v4l stuff in its footprint | 06:06 |
| Romster | something in contrib? i'll probably find it shortly. | 06:08 |
| jaeger | It's gegl, already searched | 06:08 |
| jaeger | that's teK_'s, though, so I might have another one | 06:08 |
| jaeger | Sorry for the noise | 06:09 |
| Romster | teks port << | 06:09 |
| Romster | np | 06:09 |
| jaeger | yeah, way ahead of you :) | 06:09 |
| Romster | little slow here | 06:09 |
| jaeger | I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my slow moments | 06:10 |
| jaeger | lots of them | 06:10 |
| Romster | i really haven't been keeping as close an eye on ports as i would like too. due to time restraints. | 06:10 |
| Romster | configure: error: X development libraries not found | 06:11 |
| Romster | =======> ERROR: Building '/var/ports/packages/at-spi2-core#2.6.2-2.pkg.tar.gz' failed. | 06:11 |
| Romster | ah well easy fix for the moment. | 06:11 |
| Romster | frinnst, i believe that's your port can't test what xorg dep exactly atm | 06:11 |
| Romster | jaeger, work went from quiet until November and it hasn't stopped this month either. More work than I can keep up with. | 06:14 |
| Romster | also it's hard for me to remember what i did 10 minutes ago when i multitask like 10 things at the same time. | 06:14 |
| Romster | so end of day i feel brain dead and not with it. | 06:14 |
| jaeger | take notes, it helps :) I do a lot of that when I'm multitasking | 06:14 |
| Romster | i try too. | 06:15 |
| jaeger | argh... I hate moving data between NAS devices when I don't have real low level access to them | 06:15 |
| jaeger | gotta move 57.6TB | 06:15 |
| jaeger | er, pardon me, 52TB | 06:15 |
| jaeger | both devices run solaris and ZFS, wish I could just use ZFS send/receive but it has an "appliance kit" thing on top of the OS | 06:16 |
| Romster | that's alot of data. | 06:16 |
| Romster | and isn't it TiB now. | 06:17 |
| jaeger | technically I know how to get access to the command line but they won't support us if I do that | 06:17 |
| Romster | so use a pc that has access to both and mv one mount point to another? | 06:18 |
| Romster | i really haven't got into the huge data center stuff. | 06:18 |
| jaeger | that's what I have to do and it's horribly inefficient | 06:18 |
| Romster | sans and fibre chanels and multi-path stuff. | 06:18 |
| Romster | not got 10gig on that pc? | 06:19 |
| Romster | 1-gigabit lan that is. | 06:19 |
| Romster | err sorry 10... | 06:20 |
| Romster | after 1am | 06:20 |
| Romster | probably take a few weeks still to move that amount of data. | 06:20 |
| Romster | i'm doing yet another 1tb hdd recovery with ddrescue it's been stopping on me and all i can do is turn off the box turn back on so hdd resets and ata controler resets. and mount the log file disk and i made a script to use disk-by/id/.... so i can't stuff the order up if say sda and sdb and sdc swap spots on a restart. | 06:22 |
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| sepen | hi | 06:23 |
| sepen | congrats for 3.0!!! | 06:23 |
| sepen | and many thanks!! | 06:23 |
| Romster | i laready lost one custoemrs data due to disk swapping around after i turned off usb enclosure and back on and not realizing it didn't get the same letter again... and sdb destination disk somehow changed to sda | 06:24 |
| Romster | thank frinnst jue and jaeger i didn't do alot. | 06:24 |
| sepen | I recently get a 64b capable computer, so now I'm installing it | 06:24 |
| Romster | ah | 06:25 |
| Romster | nice | 06:25 |
| sepen | I moved to another apartment, and nowadays I'm changing my ISP | 06:25 |
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| sepen | to many changes but I think I'll be more active since now | 06:26 |
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| sepen | where is the irclog? | 06:26 |
| Romster | hehe it moved. | 06:26 |
| Romster | http://irclogs.shortcircuit.net.au/ | 06:26 |
| Romster | prologic, hey why do i only see thurdsays log on 03-01-2013 | 06:27 |
| Romster | ah it's my cached copy is stale.. | 06:27 |
| Romster | need a last modified header. | 06:28 |
| Romster | and a next page after x amount of days | 06:28 |
| sepen | hmmm | 06:28 |
| sepen | our webpage then should be updated to this new place | 06:28 |
| jaeger | Romster: sorry, had someone come into my office and talk for a while | 06:29 |
| jaeger | it is 10GbE but it's still 52TB of data, heh | 06:29 |
| Romster | that's ok jaeger | 06:29 |
| jaeger | takes a long time | 06:29 |
| Romster | i could imagine | 06:29 |
| jaeger | It goes from NAS 1 to the SERVER back to NAS 2, so it's going both ways on the intermediate server | 06:29 |
| jaeger | and I'm using 2, actually. 1 windows for CIFS/SMB, 1 linux for NFS | 06:30 |
| Romster | and that server probably does other stuff too. | 06:30 |
| jaeger | It's my vsphere vcenter server so it's barely ever loaded | 06:30 |
| jaeger | the linux one was sitting on a shelf until I put it back in the rack for this task | 06:31 |
| Romster | oh | 06:31 |
| jaeger | ooh, just had an idea I want to try | 06:32 |
| jaeger | the appliance kit does use send/receive for remote replication but the replication snapshots are considered replicas, not normal projects and data shares | 06:32 |
| jaeger | I wonder if I could do a remote replication of the biggest project (37TB) and then convert it to a new local project on the target device | 06:32 |
| jaeger | Might end up being faster, might not | 06:33 |
| jaeger | might not work at all, heh | 06:33 |
| Romster | i need to get more creative with partclone to read the NTFS to read the MFT and use that file with ddrescue to only rescue used sectors but, the issue is i need to figure where the MFT is and use ddresuce to try and recover that area first for partclone to use it. | 06:33 |
| Romster | i'll probably need to email the partclone and ddresuce mailing lists for a possible way of doing that. | 06:34 |
| jaeger | do you have a usb->sata dock or anything like it? I use one of those at work when I need to recover hard drives | 06:34 |
| Romster | as full disk cloning is a pain if it's not that full. | 06:34 |
| jaeger | that way if the bus gets hosed or something it's easier to reset, don't need to reset the machine most times | 06:34 |
| Romster | we do but i tend to use a dedicated pc for recovery | 06:34 |
| jaeger | ah | 06:34 |
| Romster | and the hdd's have a habbit of locking up... | 06:34 |
| jaeger | not a big deal, then | 06:34 |
| Romster | but the main issue is it's hard to read the MFT area at times. | 06:35 |
| Romster | but ddrescue probably can... | 06:35 |
| Romster | but the MFT could be anywhere so i really need a partclone that can take advantage of ddrescue for reading the MFT area. | 06:35 |
| Romster | and ddrescue hasn't got a library so it wont be integrated well into partclone... | 06:36 |
| Romster | i think this idea i have wont work and i'll be forced to keep doing full disk ddrescue-ing | 06:36 |
| Romster | ata reset commands don't seem to reset a dead disk either only a power cycle seems to fix that... | 06:37 |
| jaeger | can depend on the chipset, too. AHCI chipsets handle that much better than sata_nv, for example. I've run into that recently | 06:38 |
| Romster | until it decides to do that again, ddrescue keeps looking for sectors to read over the entire disk, and disk refuses to transfer any data. | 06:38 |
| Romster | thee ar eolder socket 775 boards, one of which has that HPA bios bug any disk over 1TiB sometimes gets the HPA turned on. and i have to reset that. | 06:39 |
| jaeger | oof | 06:39 |
| jaeger | are they gigabyte boards? | 06:39 |
| Romster | i haven't looked what chipset they are but i probably would have more luck on a newer pc. | 06:39 |
| Romster | yeah they are. | 06:39 |
| Romster | HPA is annoying but is easy turned off with hdparm | 06:40 |
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| Romster | i was scratching my head when a 1TiB hdd turned up showing 32MiB | 06:41 |
| Romster | then i tired another same happend... | 06:41 |
| Romster | tried* | 06:41 |
| Romster | i thought something must be going on then i re-remembered HPA | 06:41 |
| frinnst | Romster: ack | 06:42 |
| Romster | then found out those mobos's have the HPA BIOS bug but no firmware updates for them... | 06:42 |
| Romster | when ever i get newer boards i'll be sure to throw those other two out. | 06:42 |
| Romster | but that's only a minor issue and easy to fix and it wont set it once it's unset. power has to be cycled after every HPA change. | 06:43 |
| Romster | else the hdd will refuse to change reported size. | 06:43 |
| frinnst | xorg-libx11 i think | 06:45 |
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| Romster | the joys of a computer shop... to be honest i don't think anyone else was doing ddrescue's until i got there. and they do take time to do. | 06:45 |
| frinnst | Romster: can you check if it works if you manually add that port? or I can do it in a couple of hours | 06:45 |
| Romster | finddeps will probably tell you frinnst | 06:45 |
| frinnst | it did | 06:45 |
| frinnst | im confident :) | 06:46 |
| Romster | i'm installing everything i got on my system into a chroot. to make sure nothing is broken compile wise. before i update my system this coming weekend. | 06:46 |
| Romster | i can retest later. | 06:46 |
| frinnst | me too, just thought if you were messing with it right now | 06:48 |
| Romster | jue, gutenprint has a ton of missing file in it's footprint http://pastebin.com/4n8RzA3Y | 06:48 |
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| frinnst | Romster: are you doing a depinst from a fresh core install? :) | 06:50 |
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| Romster | yes | 06:51 |
| Romster | but a depinst of all ports i have on my system so i'd not be surprised of new files if any show up. | 06:51 |
| Romster | i was not expecting missing files. | 06:52 |
| Romster | iirc i need to update xine-lib as a few video drivers are missing in 64bit | 06:53 |
| Romster | epdfview requires gtk dependency | 07:06 |
| Romster | jsut after 2am i'm heading to bed gnight | 07:06 |
| jaeger | night | 07:08 |
| jue | Romster: thanks, guess that is the library for the gtk user-interface, will have a look | 07:14 |
| prologic | Romster, yeash I've updated circuits.web's static dispatcher to do better cache controls - I'll update it on my server soon | 07:17 |
| prologic | sorry :) | 07:17 |
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| klrr | what pdf reader do you guys use? (i use mupdf) | 07:32 |
| frinnst | I used to use epdfview, but it sucks these days. not updated and buggy | 07:33 |
| frinnst | so yeah, mupdf :) | 07:33 |
| klrr | oke | 07:33 |
| klrr | okey* | 07:33 |
| jaeger | I use chrome :) | 07:36 |
| klrr | i thought chrome was spyware | 07:51 |
| sepen | lol | 07:54 |
| klrr | sepen: lol? | 07:59 |
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| klrr | http://www.favbrowser.com/google-chrome-spyware-confirmed/ | 08:03 |
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| joe9 | klrr: I use mupdf too. | 08:37 |
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| klrr | okey | 08:39 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.8]: gnupg: add libpth as dependency, thanks tilman | 09:03 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gnupg: add libpth as dependency, thanks tilman | 09:04 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.8]: nfs-utils: build with libmount support to fix user-umount, FS#879 | 09:23 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.8]: gutenprint: disable gtk user-interface and gimp plugin explicit | 09:23 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.8]: gutenprint-gimp: inital release | 09:23 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gnupg: add libpth as dependency, thanks tilman | 09:24 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: nfs-utils: build with libmount support to fix user-umount, FS#879 | 09:24 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gutenprint: disable gtk user-interface and gimp plugin explicit | 09:24 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gutenprint-gimp: inital release | 09:24 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: Merge branch '2.8' into 3.0 | 09:24 |
| jaeger | damn it, the pci-express slot the 10GbE NIC is in is electrically only x4 | 09:25 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: at-spi2-core: added xorg-libx11 to dependencies | 09:35 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: epdfview: added gtk to dependencies | 09:35 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/2.8]: pep8: new port | 10:30 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/2.8]: vmtouch: new port | 10:30 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: pep8: new port | 10:30 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: vmtouch: new port | 10:30 |
| klrr | how do i ignore md5sum missmatch with prt-get? | 10:53 |
| klrr | nvm | 10:55 |
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| timcowchip | I did it | 13:44 |
| timcowchip | !!!! | 13:44 |
| timcowchip | I had to add nomodeset to grub | 13:45 |
| timcowchip | I guess I need to reinstall with the nouveau module? | 13:45 |
| timcowchip | there's no documentation about users | 13:47 |
| jaeger | check the useradd manpage, it's pretty simple to use | 13:47 |
| timcowchip | ok thanks | 13:48 |
| jaeger | not sure what you mean about grub and nouveau | 13:48 |
| timcowchip | I've got an nvidia graphics card | 13:49 |
| timcowchip | black screen at first boot | 13:49 |
| nogagplz | what is your graphics card | 13:49 |
| timcowchip | then add "nomodeset" after "ro quiet" | 13:49 |
| timcowchip | geforce 6100 | 13:50 |
| timcowchip | with tv out | 13:50 |
| timcowchip | I usually install the prop driver | 13:50 |
| jaeger | if you're going to use the binary nvidia driver, remove nouveau from the kernel entirely | 13:50 |
| jaeger | they don't play well together | 13:50 |
| timcowchip | I usually blacklist it | 13:51 |
| timcowchip | I don't mind nomodeset | 13:51 |
| timcowchip | it actually make the tv display clone the vga | 13:51 |
| timcowchip | can't do that with nouveau | 13:52 |
| timcowchip | also dhcp sample in /etc/rc.d/net didn't work | 13:53 |
| timcowchip | from the handbook | 13:53 |
| jaeger | in section 6.1.5? | 13:55 |
| timcowchip | yes that one | 13:56 |
| timcowchip | /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.1.100/24 | 13:57 |
| jaeger | that's not dhcp, that's static | 13:57 |
| timcowchip | means all the 192.168.1.* up to 100? | 13:57 |
| jaeger | no, it means 192.168.1.100 with a netmask of /24 (255.255.255.0) | 13:58 |
| timcowchip | you're right | 13:58 |
| jaeger | If you want DHCP use the example below that one | 13:58 |
| timcowchip | that's the one I used | 13:58 |
| timcowchip | I'm going back and forth between this chatroom and my daughter's tablet | 13:59 |
| timcowchip | it didn't work | 13:59 |
| timcowchip | I'll keep trying it | 14:00 |
| jaeger | well, without more info like an error message or something I can't offer much help there. I will say for reference that I use dhcp here and it's working great | 14:01 |
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| timcowchip | I installed openbox and firefox and got the can't find server error when I typed Crux linux into google | 14:02 |
| timcowchip | I'll run firefox in a terminal | 14:03 |
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| jaeger | try also running '/sbin/ifconfig' to see if your interface got an address | 14:03 |
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| timcowchip | ok thanks jaeger, I'll try that | 14:04 |
| jaeger | if it got one via dhcp /etc/resolv.conf should be automatically populated. if you used the static method instead, you'll need to configure /etc/resolv.conf manually to tell it where to find DNS servers | 14:04 |
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| nicknick | bahh. i cant seem to find an install guide for putting crux on a mac. though i do understand one needs elilo for the boot loader...suppose crux users are smart enough not to use macs lol | 14:47 |
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| timcowchip | ifconfig can't find eth0 | 15:26 |
| timcowchip | /etc/resolv.conf not populated | 15:28 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:05:30 crux syslogd 1.5.0: restart. | 15:30 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:05:30 crux net: Cannot find device "eth0" | 15:30 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:05:30 crux net: Cannot find device "eth0" | 15:30 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:05:31 crux net: RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable | 15:30 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:25:34 crux dhcpcd[174]: version 5.6.6 starting | 15:31 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:25:34 crux dhcpcd[174]: no valid interfaces found | 15:31 |
| timcowchip | Jan 22 21:25:35 crux dhcpcd[174]: no interfaces have a carrier | 15:31 |
| timcowchip | transmit the message to the receiver hope for an answer someday | 15:35 |
| timcowchip | timcowchip is blathering on crackware | 15:35 |
| timcowchip | why no eth0? | 15:42 |
| timcowchip | do I need to disable wlan in kernel? | 15:43 |
| diverse | you don't have the right driver enabled in the kernel | 15:50 |
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| diverse | and use lspci to find the right NIC model if you don't know it. | 15:53 |
| timcowchip | ok thanks | 15:54 |
| timcowchip | Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03) | 15:55 |
| timcowchip | any ideas on which driver it uses? | 15:57 |
| diverse | explore in the make menuconfig and find the realtek drivers | 15:58 |
| timcowchip | ok | 15:58 |
| jaeger | looks like r8169 | 15:59 |
| jaeger | (I think) | 15:59 |
| timcowchip | I'll give that a try | 16:00 |
| timcowchip | thanks again | 16:00 |
| diverse | jaeger: looks like it indeed | 16:03 |
| diverse | its the only gigabit ethernet option for realtek | 16:03 |
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| jaeger | that makes it easy, heh | 16:07 |
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| joe9 | tilman: lspci -k might help if you can get it boot with a livecd. | 16:23 |
| joe9 | tilman: not for you, sorry. | 16:23 |
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| timcowchip | what was that realtek driver again, 8129? | 16:41 |
| timcowchip | RTL-8129/8130/8139 is already enabled | 16:44 |
| timcowchip | I'll enable Support for older boards RTL-8129/8139 | 16:45 |
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| vee_ | sup guys, trying to get crux up on a virtual machine, and i keep getting a no boot medium found. im 100% sure i have built the sata controller and device drivers for the virtual machine... | 16:45 |
| jaeger | no boot medium sounds like a VM message, not a kernel message | 16:47 |
| vee_ | yea, i figured. | 16:49 |
| jaeger | did you change the boot settings in the VM's BIOS or something? | 16:52 |
| vee_ | nope | 16:54 |
| vee_ | have noticed its using an ide instead of sata | 16:57 |
| jaeger | make sure the boot order in the VM BIOS looks ok and also, did you install the boot loader to the drive? grub or lilo, etc. | 17:01 |
| vee_ | yes i have. i ran lilo, and it wrote it just fine. | 17:01 |
| vee_ | created a new disk with a sata controller, now it wont find the disks at all o.O | 17:07 |
| jaeger | which VM software are you using? | 17:08 |
| vee_ | virtual box | 17:09 |
| jaeger | I use virtualbox at work all the time, definitely works. you've got something funky in the VM config, I'd guess | 17:09 |
| vee_ | virtual machine disk | 17:10 |
| vee_ | right? | 17:10 |
| jaeger | right, what? I don't know what you're asking | 17:12 |
| vee_ | it asks if the system will be a virtual machine disk... | 17:13 |
| jaeger | if the system will be a virtual machine disk? | 17:13 |
| vee_ | yes. not sure if its a virtual machine disk, virtual disk image, or virtual hard disk | 17:14 |
| vee_ | thought it would be virtual machine disk, but that doesn't seem to find any disk at all | 17:14 |
| jaeger | If you're asking about the disk format options, virtualbox supports all the ones it lists | 17:14 |
| vee_ | seems like i selected the wrong type of disk option. thats why crux wouldn't find a hard disk. | 17:39 |
| vee_ | now to get eth0 up hah | 17:39 |
| jaeger | crux doesn't care about the type, only the controller | 17:39 |
| jaeger | sata, sas, ide, etc. | 17:40 |
| vee_ | oh. it was the same controller the entire time... -shrugs- | 17:40 |
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| vee_ | libpthreadstubs seems to have failed to build. cant access the site it looks like | 18:21 |
| prologic | google for the source | 18:23 |
| prologic | you'll find a mirror of it somewhere | 18:23 |
| prologic | which reminds me | 18:23 |
| prologic | I was going to build a web service and publish it somewhere just for this | 18:23 |
| vee_ | it might be virtualbox blocking access actually... | 18:23 |
| prologic | something that you can point /etc/pkgmk.conf to | 18:24 |
| vee_ | prologic, that'd be awesome. :) | 18:25 |
| prologic | I know right :) | 18:25 |
| prologic | maybe I'll try to build it tonight | 18:25 |
| vee_ | someone should make a crux for dummies, that be cool too | 18:25 |
| prologic | dont' ask me tow write it :0 | 18:26 |
| prologic | it'll be one page long! | 18:26 |
| vee_ | bahhh | 18:26 |
| vee_ | everything is failing to build. lol | 18:26 |
| vee_ | leafpad, xterm, and xorg. and this stupid mac terminal thing wont alllow copy pasting haha | 18:26 |
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| prologic | what version you running? | 18:33 |
| prologic | we don't maintain ports older than 2.8 I think | 18:33 |
| prologic | my desktop is 2.6 :/ | 18:33 |
| prologic | so I'm screwed | 18:33 |
| prologic | and I can't upgrade anything without breaking and upgrading my toolchain :) | 18:33 |
| vee_ | im on 3.0 --- master race! | 18:33 |
| prologic | so I'm just going to buy a new desktop soon! | 18:33 |
| vee_ | buy me one too, please | 18:33 |
| prologic | haha | 18:34 |
| prologic | well I was going to setup crux in the cloud | 18:34 |
| prologic | crux desktop that is | 18:34 |
| vee_ | and how do you plan on doing that? | 18:34 |
| prologic | using that very efficient X protocol | 18:34 |
| prologic | can't remember the name off the top of my head now | 18:34 |
| vee_ | well, are you going to have your own machine being used to store it in the cloud, or, buying some server space | 18:35 |
| prologic | server space | 18:36 |
| vee_ | ah | 18:37 |
| vee_ | sounds like an interesting idea. what will you be doing with it? | 18:37 |
| prologic | no I just want to do it to see if I can :) | 18:43 |
| vee_ | ah. | 18:50 |
| vee_ | i wanted to see if it would be possible to get oh...20 rpi's and set them up in a cluster. aside from getting the rpi's wouldn't even know how to begin, but i assume its possible. | 18:51 |
| prologic | it is | 19:07 |
| prologic | there's an arm crux project/port | 19:08 |
| prologic | forget who maintains that | 19:08 |
| prologic | I believe they lurk around here :) | 19:08 |
| prologic | but that's all you'd need really | 19:08 |
| prologic | then some kind of clustering software | 19:08 |
| prologic | eg: zeromq | 19:08 |
| prologic | hadoop | 19:08 |
| prologic | or even (if you're bold) circuits :) | 19:08 |
| prologic | roll your own | 19:08 |
| vee_ | wonder how many arm processors = one i7 | 19:10 |
| prologic | do the math? :) | 19:11 |
| vee_ | my math is based on guesstimation. ima say 20 | 19:12 |
| prologic | no really do the math :) | 19:13 |
| prologic | work out the bogomips of an Intel Core i7 of your choosing | 19:13 |
| prologic | and the bogomips of the arm processors used in the rpis | 19:13 |
| vee_ | never even heard of bogomips lol | 19:14 |
| vee_ | anyways, its more so around 10. | 19:14 |
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| timcowchip | using chatzilla in firefox just to check in from my new crux install | 19:44 |
| timcowchip | It was RTL-8169 that finally worked | 19:46 |
| timcowchip | even though my nic is listed as RTL-8168 | 19:46 |
| timcowchip | thanks again to everyone for the help | 19:47 |
| timcowchip | pkgadd xchat? | 19:48 |
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| godane | hey everyone | 20:48 |
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| godane | i'm just want to know if crux can be compile from scrach | 20:52 |
| prologic | yes | 20:57 |
| prologic | we do it all the time | 20:57 |
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| joe9 | jaeger: can you run a sudo command from your agetty terminal? | 21:13 |
| joe9 | I am using runit to start my agettys. For some reason, when I login thru a agetty and use sudo, it says "no tty present and no askpass program specified". | 21:13 |
| joe9 | I do not recall if this issue was there before or if it surfaced from runit. | 21:13 |
| joe9 | can anyone please check? | 21:14 |
| joe9 | I tried the requiretty in /etc/sudoers file, but, it is not helping. | 21:14 |
| godane | prologic: how would it be done on crux? | 21:14 |
| godane | cause i'm looking at sort of build a source dvd | 21:14 |
| joe9 | jaeger: got it. | 21:19 |
| joe9 | sudo requires both !requiretty and visiblepw set to work from agetty. | 21:19 |
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| niklaswe | morning | 22:29 |
| niklaswe | maybe its time to upgrade to 3.0 | 22:32 |
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| chris_ | good morning? | 23:03 |
| chris_ | can't build spacefm | 23:05 |
| chris_ | built xchat ok | 23:07 |
| chris_ | and startup-notification | 23:08 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: bluez: Updated to 4.101 | 23:53 |
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