IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2013-01-30

v33well, im off. good night00:01
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Romsterhttp://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_1120&products_id=19498 that looks good but i don't see it listed on nut's support page  http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html00:57
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timcowchipmy builds keep crashing01:04
timcowchipfirefox, webkit qt01:05
timcowchipis it because i'm runnig out of ram01:05
timcowchipi mounted /usr/ports/work in 2G of ram01:06
Romster2GB is not enough01:07
timcowchipshouldn't swap take over then?01:08
RomsterI use 8GB for the tempfs01:08
timcowchipi only have 2G01:08
Romsterand if you have less than 8GB of ram it'll use swap if it needs too.01:08
Romsteryou probably could get away with 3-4GB for tmpfs01:09
timcowchipshould i go back to using the hard drive?01:09
timcowchipits sata01:09
Romsteryou can keep tmpfs and just make up the rest with swap01:09
timcowchipok thanks romster01:10
Romsterdid you not read http://crux.nu/Wiki/HowToSpeedUpBuildingPackages ?01:10
Romsteredited by me btw01:10
timcowchipthat's what i did01:10
timcowchipcool01:10
timcowchiprecently edited?01:10
Romsterhmm thought i had a mention on sizes need to add that.01:11
Romstersometime end of last year01:11
RomsterPage last modified on 2012-06-24 12:0701:11
timcowchipshould i have a pkgmk user?01:11
Romsterok middle of last year01:11
Romsteronly if oyu want to use fakeroot01:11
Romsteri should add a note about that too.01:12
timcowchipwe ain't fakin'01:12
timcowchipwhole lotta shhakin01:12
Romsterfakeroot prevents rouge Pkgfiles writing outside of the build system01:12
Romsterbut if oyur not doing that skip the uid bit01:12
Romsteryour*01:13
timcowchipin fstab?01:13
Romsterif you want it permanently there yes01:13
Romsterso it's available every time you pkgmk01:13
timcowchipok01:14
Romsternote the tmpfs wont use much ram at all only when you pkgmk01:14
timcowchipthat's what i was noticing01:14
timcowchipgkrellm01:14
Romsteryou should be safe with 3-4GB i hit a large port like chromium or something that needed more or was it ghc i can't remember so i went to 801:14
Romsterfree -m01:15
Romsteris also handy on the console like01:15
Romsters/like/line01:15
Romsteryeah i've been using gkrellm2 for years now.01:15
Romsterdo you have multiple hard disks?01:15
Romsteranother speed up i should also add to the wiki about swap on multiple disks.01:16
Romsterguess i'm getting to lazy on the wiki.01:16
RomsterUUID="dcb6fd23-41f6-44ec-b83e-e21c47ae7079"swapswapdefaults,pri=10      001:19
RomsterUUID="ad2ba7da-2f3c-4446-b95f-d6b13a09c7c2"swapswapdefaults,pri=10      001:19
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Romsterdoing the same priority on each disk makes swap act as raid0 as swap already runs as extent size page blocks in the kernel already.01:19
Romsterand he left -_-01:19
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elderKHey guys.01:38
elderKI was wondering how large the base crux installation is, without cutting out files that would cause dangling dependencies?01:39
Romsterwell it's something like 250MB compressed01:47
Romsteron the is and i think core is under 100mb installed.01:47
Romsterhmm hard to say id on't have a minimal install but it's around 400MB for /usr for core ports alone..01:51
niklasweredhats new logo https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385234_286167958175654_550427322_n.jpg :P01:51
elderKSweet. Thanks Romster.01:53
elderKThe kernel source is installed by default, yeah?01:53
Romsterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5wmHAUOVy8 PSY - Gangnam Style on eight floppy drives01:54
Romsterhaha01:54
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niklaswehttp://i.eprci.net/nice-pair-of-sysadmins02:24
Romsterjaeger, friendly reminder that udev fix for /dev/dvd02:35
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jaegerRomster: that was done on 12/2605:57
niklaswe..06:04
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joe9teK_: can you please bump kexec-tools to 2.0.3?08:36
juejoe9: ck4up problems solved?08:42
cruxbot[core.git/2.8]: dhcpcd: update to 5.6.708:49
cruxbot[core.git/2.8]: man-pages: update to 3.4608:49
joe9jue: i did not get a chance to get to it. btw, how does ck4up tell me when there is a later package?08:49
joe9does all url's have to run without errors, first?08:50
jueck4up doesn't know anything of packages, it just fetches web-pages and compares the stored with the new md5sum of that page08:51
juewell, if you have errors while fetching pages you cannot expect useful results08:52
juebut of course, the errors have no impact on the other, working URLs08:53
jueforget to say that you'll get a "diff" message if both md5sums differ08:55
cruxbot[opt.git/2.8]: libgphoto2: update to 2.5.1.108:56
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: nettle: updated to 2.609:00
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libgphoto2: update to 2.5.1.109:00
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: Merge branch '2.8' into 3.009:00
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: dhcpcd: update to 5.6.709:01
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: man-pages: update to 3.4609:01
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: Merge branch '2.8' into 3.009:01
joe9jue: thanks. I was not seeing the "diff", hence wanted to check if I had to do something else.09:09
joe9jue, will check again.09:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.8]: xkeyboard-config: update to 2.809:11
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.8]: xorg-xev: update to 1.2.109:11
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xkeyboard-config: update to 2.809:12
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-xev: update to 1.2.109:12
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: Merge branch '2.8' into 3.009:12
joe9any thoughts on what could be causing these errors, please? http://codepad.org/7V1HMb7Q09:20
joe9it works fine when I untar the file to /tmp directory.09:20
joe9but, for some reason with the bsdtar and those command line options, I get that error.09:21
joe9even this fails: just bsdtar: http://codepad.org/MXPKiPbJ09:22
joe9tar -xjf /var/pkgmk/distfiles/kexec-tools-2.0.3.tar.bz2 -- works fine.09:23
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sepenhi09:41
juehi sepen09:44
tilmandidn't realize crux had texlive these days :o09:44
sepenyeah, new ISP here ;D and static ip09:45
tilmanofc i'm not sure why the hell it would require clisp09:45
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-xf86-video-ati: updated to 7.1.010:05
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: Merge branch '2.8' into 3.010:05
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.8]: xorg-xf86-video-ati: updated to 7.1.010:05
juejoe9: looks like a bug in bsdtar/libarchive to me, not the first time that we have such a problem10:06
juejoe9: just tested, works with new libarchive 3.110:07
joe9jue, ok. thanks. I have 3.0.4.10:08
joe9how do the core ports get updated? with a new release? such as 3.0?10:08
joe9is there a way to get "ports --update" to update core ports too?10:08
juewe have to commit the update first, it's not entirely trivial because 3.1 has changed the soname, therefore everthing linked against it need to be rebuild10:12
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juebut bsdtar is not linked against libarchive, therefore an update is at least possible ;)10:17
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v33hello10:33
juejoe9: sorry, was wrong, doesn't work with 3.110:35
joe9jue, oh, ok. thanks.10:36
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frinnstI visited this place today: http://www.nsc.liu.se/11:09
frinnstmighty cool11:09
jaegercool :)11:13
frinnstthey had a cray 1 for display. still looks like some sort of furniture even up close :)11:19
jaegerheh11:20
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timcowchipare libjs and libjsw the same?11:58
timcowchipno it isn't12:16
timcowchipmozjs18512:19
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timcowchiplibjs13:02
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timcowchipnevermind13:20
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niklaswetilman: there?14:19
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timcowchippedja: i'm trying to install udisks14:29
pedjawhat is the problem?14:30
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timcowchiplibatasmart not found14:33
timcowchipsorry about that14:33
pedjayou'll need that :)14:33
timcowchipdamn chatzilla14:33
timcowchipdo yuo know where can i get it?14:34
pedjaI have a port for it, if you want14:34
timcowchipoh thank you14:34
timcowchipis it at http://crux.nu/portdb ?14:35
pedjano, my repo is not online yet.14:35
timcowchipor could you email it to chris@opensuse.us ?14:36
pedjado you want ports for all the deps for udisks, or just this one?14:37
timcowchipall deps would be nice14:38
pedjaok.14:38
timcowchipi got a newer version of polkit installed and it fix the gobject problem14:39
pedjatimcowchip: since udisks is no longer maintained, I'll send you port for udisks2, too, you might want it for smth :)14:40
timcowchipthanks pedja :)14:41
pedjanp14:41
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joacimi'm surprised. copying a 250GB hdd took only about 30 minutes. I figured this would take all night.14:45
pedjatimcowchip: sent14:46
pedjadoes anyone else has problems building libgphoto2 on 3.0?15:04
timcowchipgot it, thanks again :)15:04
pedjatimcowchip: np :)15:05
v33hate applying for colleges15:14
joacimyou have to fill out more than one form or something?15:23
v33oh yea. theres many pages to it...they ask your life story haha15:24
v33also, libreoffice keeps giving out this error, even though java is installed15:26
v33Warning: failed to read path from javaldx15:26
v33/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXext.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory15:26
timcowchipI/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl15:29
timcowchipwarning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl"15:29
timcowchipcannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl15:29
timcowchipnevermind15:31
joacimhere you just fill out a somewhat simple form and enter about 10 colleges that you want to attend. dont have to apply for each individual college.15:31
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v33joacim that amazing. here...you, you have to apply to each college individually15:43
joacimthis applies for state funded colleges i think15:44
joacimmight be a little different for private teaching institutions15:44
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timcowchipanyone got a gvfs port?19:41
timcowchipthank you nogagplz for weechat :)19:44
nogagplzI didn't do anything though19:45
timcowchipi used your weechat port to install it19:45
nogagplzah I see the problem, you're mistaking me for nogagplz, I'm actually no9a9plz19:48
timcowchippedja gave me udisks and udisks2 which both installed nicely after installing docbook *.xml and *.xls19:49
nogagplzdo they work and let you mount stuff willy nilly too?19:49
timcowchipnot yet19:49
timcowchip i think i need gfvs now19:49
timcowchipmounting stuff willy nilly sounds.............19:50
timcowchiplike what gigolo does19:51
nogagplzonly if your mind is in the gutter19:51
timcowchipgigolo-gvfs19:51
timcowchiphttp://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html19:52
timcowchipor http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/index.html19:52
nogagplzguess we all have something wrong with us19:53
timcowchipi have a wdlivetvhub by westrn digital19:54
rmullSo other than vlock, which is not in one of the "primary" ports repos, are there any other terminal lockers like lock or vlock?19:54
timcowchipi connects to ethernet via samba and plays videos on my tv19:55
timcowchipit also gets netflix and other services19:55
timcowchipit has a terrabyte hard drive19:56
timcowchipi back up everything from the wife's and kid's computers on it19:58
timcowchipmine too19:58
timcowchipbut i can't back up crux yet19:58
joacimgood lord. gparted left some blank space between some of my partitions20:15
joacimi better go get myself some stronger ocd meds20:15
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timcowchipi'm going to start my own distro23:13
timcowchipbased on crux23:13
timcowchipi'm going to call it sux23:13
nogagplzno you won't23:14
timcowchipwhat i end up with does23:15
timcowchipi'm not just talking about not be able to mount samba shares23:17
timcowchipi can't build firefox23:17
timcowchipprt-get upgrade firefox crashes23:18
nogagplzisn't it update23:18
Romsteryou just suck at source based distros designed for experienced users23:19
Romsteri can mount samba shares fine here23:19
Romsterfirefox works here as best as it does leak memory23:19
timcowchipyea that's it update23:20
Romsterwhats it crash with?23:20
timcowchipthat's why it crashed23:20
Romster can upload a built package if you like23:20
timcowchip6 hours into the build23:20
Romsterhave you done a prt-get update -fr `revdep`23:20
timcowchipthanks Romster I appreciate the offer23:21
timcowchipI'm only doing this to learn form my mistakes though23:21
timcowchipno23:22
Romsteralso i did fork crux at one point it's a huge task and if you can't fix simple errors don't bother forking it'll be far more effort than what you have now.23:22
timcowchipi did ports -u the ports -d then sysup23:22
timcowchipi was just kidding about my own distro23:23
Romsterwell pastebin your error log, one of be able to help if we know what the errors are.23:23
Romsterfigures23:23
Romsteri was being serious23:23
timcowchipok thanks23:23
timcowchipprt-get install webkit right now23:24
Romsteri hope that was a depinst23:28
Romsterand not install23:28
timcowchipit was the first time i tried it23:31
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timcowchipthen it crashed half way into building webkit23:31
Romsterdid you do prt-get depinst webkit or prt-get install swebkit23:37
Romsters/swebkit/webkit23:37
Romsteryou need to use depinst23:38
Romsterso it pulls in needed dependencies23:38
Romsterwhat C CXX flags you using?23:38
timcowchipexport CFLAGS="-O2 -march=x86-64 -pipe"23:39
timcowchipexport CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"23:39
timcowchipexport MAKEFLAGS="-j$(/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)"23:39
timcowchipthe first time it was depinst23:40
timcowchipand it pulled all of them23:40
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timcowchiphad to reboot23:44
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