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| himynameisphil | prologic: Thanks. I should have been clearer that the keys don't even register with xev, so I can't map them with xbindkeys or similar. | 03:11 |
| himynameisphil | Probably something I have to enable in my kernel, but not sure what. | 03:11 |
| himynameisphil | posted my kernel config earlier; can re-post if needed | 03:13 |
| himynameisphil | http://pastebin.com/wf2VhVgd | 03:19 |
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| sepen | hi | 03:39 |
| frinnst | heyo | 03:39 |
| cruxbot | [xfce.git/3.0]: xfdesktop: updated to 4.10.1 | 03:39 |
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| Romster | =======> Building '/var/ports/packages/backlite#1.0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded. | 04:34 |
| Romster | himynameisphil, http://dpaste.com/1011869/ | 04:34 |
| Romster | couldn't be arsed why i had to manually include other paths but it builds. | 04:35 |
| Romster | i odn'y know enough to find the culprit in linking to newer ffmpeg "declare and define before you use. With pointers, you don't have to define things before using them, but you still have to declare them." | 04:45 |
| Romster | some declare is arse end about out of order. | 04:45 |
| Romster | and g++ is erroring out on that. | 04:45 |
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| Romster | i was meant to be calculating the box volume for a isobaric bin using thiele-small equations, but instead i wasted my time on crux stuff -_- too tired to think now. | 05:05 |
| Romster | and i had darts and i got table tennis tomorrow night... and i need the equations done by tomorrow... oh well. | 05:06 |
| Romster | couldn't do it on the weekend was busy working too. | 05:06 |
| Romster | oh and setting up yet another web site for someone else up too. | 05:07 |
| Romster | so yes i have little time but i tend to be putting must of my stuff aside to help others. | 05:07 |
| Romster | what do i get in return? over burdened with other stuff i need to catch up on. | 05:08 |
| Romster | i haven't even had time lately to tech support in #lvm either. | 05:09 |
| Romster | and i might even have wednesday night friday and saturday gigs instead of just saturday. | 05:10 |
| Romster | and i got a wedding this month and a bucks party on top of all this. | 05:10 |
| Romster | and i got a half repaired power supply for a security dvr that i need to finish fault finding and fix. | 05:11 |
| Romster | other than the ports and groups i'm in on crux, i need to spend more time organizing my life before this all gets out of hand. | 05:12 |
| jaeger | Sounds like it's already out of hand | 05:13 |
| Romster | and i'm monologueing :/ | 05:13 |
| Romster | it is now | 05:13 |
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| Romster | and i want to learn more python when i have mroe spare time to actaully learn it though my thick head of mine. | 05:14 |
| Romster | takes me ages to learn stuff that say prologic has learned in 5 minutes. | 05:14 |
| Romster | problem is i don't get much spare time | 05:15 |
| Romster | or a clear mind to think clearly. it's always full of all the todo jobs at work and home. | 05:15 |
| Romster | urgent this urgent that... | 05:15 |
| himynameisphil | Romster: I think that paste was meant for timcowchip, no? | 05:15 |
| Romster | it's enough to send any normal person insane | 05:15 |
| Romster | oh i thoguth you were timcowchip | 05:16 |
| Romster | seems to have 3 different names but i forget them all... | 05:16 |
| himynameisphil | Hi, my name is phil. | 05:16 |
| Romster | timcowchip my turn to have some fun timcowchip. timcowchip, timcowchip, timcowchip, timcowchip, see i can do it too where are you :P | 05:16 |
| jaeger | I'm guessing you're high or really tired :P | 05:17 |
| Romster | i'll refer him tot he log later | 05:17 |
| Romster | to the* | 05:17 |
| Romster | i'm not high, just tired. | 05:17 |
| Romster | i don't do drugs | 05:17 |
| Romster | and a bit of adrenaline is keeping me going, that sort of mood jaeger, this is me you probably haven't seen this side of me. | 05:18 |
| jaeger | Once or twice, yeah, at least the IRC part :) | 05:18 |
| Romster | ranting mood. oh well i should stop now before i make everyone else complain about the massive backlog. | 05:19 |
| Romster | i perhaps need ot vent elsewhere. | 05:19 |
| Romster | to* | 05:19 |
| Romster | tired to get a ranting channel going on freenode that someone else started but it was no fun in a nearly empty room. to vent out... then again i could probably keep typing to /dev/null the way i'm going. | 05:22 |
| himynameisphil | mv ./Romster /bed/ | 05:26 |
| himynameisphil | :) | 05:26 |
| Romster | hehe | 05:27 |
| Romster | i may as well but sleep wont cure my problems. | 05:27 |
| Romster | only delays it | 05:27 |
| Romster | i could rant for a few more hours but i wont g'night :) | 05:29 |
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| rauz | hi guys | 09:53 |
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| timcowchip | hi rauz | 09:55 |
| timcowchip | romster: you probably already knew about this http://audio.claub.net/software/kougaard/ubmodel.html | 09:58 |
| timcowchip | don't know if it would be any use to you even if you didn't know about it | 09:58 |
| timcowchip | let me know if there' is anything that can be tested or built to help with your port maintenance "duties" or anything else I can help with | 10:04 |
| joacim | I like that they're using comic sans. | 10:06 |
| timcowchip | I am used to using irc as a message board, especially when communicting with people in different time zones | 10:24 |
| timcowchip | but I can see how using more than one name in the irc can complicate that | 10:25 |
| timcowchip | http://jw.tks6.net/files/crux/cruxmap.html says my irc name is timcowchip, so from now on I'll go with that | 10:27 |
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| Dark_light | Wicd should not depend on pygtk, it can be used and works perfectly fine without using the gtk interface. Just run wicd-curses | 10:40 |
| timcowchip | maybe it should be called wicd-gtk | 10:42 |
| timcowchip | ? | 10:42 |
| timcowchip | does wicd-curses depend on ncurses? | 10:44 |
| Dark_light | yep | 10:44 |
| Dark_light | but it's compiled by default with wicd as the gtk gui | 10:45 |
| Dark_light | I can't remember the compile option to remove the gtk interface though | 10:45 |
| Dark_light | I have it written down somewhere | 10:45 |
| timcowchip | so prt-get depinst wicd installs pygtk and you don't want that? | 10:46 |
| Dark_light | well yes I mean the less dependencies the better, it's easier to add stuffs than to remove it :P | 10:47 |
| Dark_light | here it is: --no-install-gtk | 10:49 |
| Dark_light | I know I could simply make a local port with that option enabled but it would be a pain to update it then | 10:50 |
| Dark_light | and since the philosophy is to keep it simple having less dependencies on the original port seems like the best way to go | 10:53 |
| timcowchip | prt-get dependent --all pygtk | 10:53 |
| timcowchip | tells you if you have anything else dependent on pygtk | 10:54 |
| timcowchip | so, do you have anything else installed that depends on pygtk? | 10:57 |
| Dark_light | well no, I literally just made a fresh install :P | 10:58 |
| Dark_light | but the point is not to avoid pygtk as a whole but to avoid it with wicd | 10:58 |
| Dark_light | it would have no use for example in a xorg-less install | 10:58 |
| timcowchip | if you have something else installed that depends on pygtk, then it would be trivial to worry about wicd depending or not depending on it | 11:00 |
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| timcowchip | deluge,wicd,gst-python,gajim,gpodder,gtk-recordmydesktop,streamtuner2 all depend on pygtk | 11:03 |
| timcowchip | I take it that you have enabled the contrib ports in prt-get.conf | 11:05 |
| jaeger | Regardless of whether or not it's required, the wicd port maintainer probably uses the GTK interface | 11:05 |
| teK_ | I cannot enter passwords fo rnew wlans in wicd atm | 11:06 |
| teK_ | BTW. :p | 11:06 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: mupdf: update to 1.2 | 11:11 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gtk: updated to 2.24.17 | 11:17 |
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| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/FyKAsMS4 | 11:53 |
| timcowchip | gtk update didn't work | 11:53 |
| timcowchip | bash-4.2# date | 11:56 |
| timcowchip | Mon Mar 4 11:54:54 UTC 2013 | 11:56 |
| timcowchip | could be my clock was wrong for the previous gtk update | 11:57 |
| Amnesia | timcowchip: it succeeded over here | 11:58 |
| timcowchip | as in later than it shows right now | 11:58 |
| timcowchip | ok | 11:58 |
| timcowchip | prt-get -f update gtk didn't work | 12:00 |
| Amnesia | yCheck your system clock | 12:01 |
| Amnesia | ... | 12:01 |
| Amnesia | :p | 12:01 |
| timcowchip | my clock is correct now | 12:02 |
| timcowchip | bash-4.2# date | 12:02 |
| timcowchip | Mon Mar 4 12:00:36 UTC 2013 | 12:02 |
| timcowchip | but it may have been wrong for the previous gtk update, I'm not sure | 12:02 |
| timcowchip | is there a way to correct it? | 12:03 |
| timcowchip | other than setting my current time ahead | 12:03 |
| Amnesia | any way to correct what? | 12:04 |
| timcowchip | the age of the installed gtk that I'm trying to update | 12:06 |
| timcowchip | prt-get remove gtk? | 12:07 |
| timcowchip | jk | 12:07 |
| timcowchip | :) | 12:08 |
| Amnesia | repost the output now you've changed the system time.. | 12:09 |
| timcowchip | checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! | 12:10 |
| timcowchip | Check your system clock | 12:10 |
| timcowchip | its the same as before | 12:10 |
| Amnesia | please run ntpdate | 12:11 |
| timcowchip | I don't think my clock has been wrong since I reinstalled crux a few days ago | 12:11 |
| timcowchip | ntpdate is a script, right? | 12:12 |
| Amnesia | no | 12:13 |
| Amnesia | it's a binary | 12:13 |
| timcowchip | bash: ntpdate: command not found | 12:14 |
| timcowchip | installing ntp | 12:15 |
| timcowchip | I know my clock is correct though | 12:15 |
| frinnst | rdate should be installed by default, run that | 12:17 |
| timcowchip | usage? | 12:20 |
| timcowchip | bash-4.2# prt-get depends rdate | 12:21 |
| timcowchip | The package 'rdate' could not be found | 12:21 |
| timcowchip | its 12:20 monday March 4th here in Oregon | 12:22 |
| timcowchip | my clock is correct | 12:22 |
| timcowchip | thanks anyway :) | 12:23 |
| jaeger | you could remove the source and re-download it | 12:23 |
| Amnesia | well, I'm assuming he's not keeping his working dir | 12:24 |
| jaeger | probably not | 12:25 |
| Amnesia | ffs, I've got the idea my cpu's throttled | 12:25 |
| frinnst | its in core, openrdate or something | 12:29 |
| frinnst | prt-get fsearch rdate | 12:29 |
| Amnesia | frinnst: ever stresstested your box? | 12:33 |
| timcowchip | bash-4.2# prt-get fsearch rdate | 12:35 |
| timcowchip | Found in /usr/ports/core/openrdate: | 12:35 |
| timcowchip | /etc/cron/daily/rdate | 12:35 |
| timcowchip | /usr/bin/rdate | 12:35 |
| timcowchip | sorry about the 4 lines | 12:35 |
| frinnst | Amnesia: what, benchmarking? | 12:35 |
| frinnst | not really | 12:35 |
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| frinnst | rdate -nv pool.ntp.org | 12:36 |
| timcowchip | rdate: pool.ntp.or: Name or service not known | 12:37 |
| timcowchip | my clock is correct | 12:38 |
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| timcowchip | I need to remove the "newer" gtk, I think | 12:38 |
| frinnst | well the timestamps on your fs appear to be skewed | 12:38 |
| timcowchip | so I can correct them with rdate or ntpdate? | 12:39 |
| frinnst | not the ones on your filessytem | 12:40 |
| frinnst | only system clock | 12:40 |
| frinnst | afk | 12:40 |
| timcowchip | so I will still need to remove "newer" gtk, right? | 12:40 |
| jaeger | Couldn't hurt to | 12:41 |
| jaeger | If your clock was ahead when you built it that would definitely cause some timestamp skew | 12:41 |
| timcowchip | that's what I was thinking | 12:41 |
| timcowchip | but I reinstalled crux 2 days ago and noticed that the clock was correct | 12:42 |
| timcowchip | because it never was on my old installation | 12:42 |
| timcowchip | this time I used localtime | 12:43 |
| timcowchip | anyway rm /usr/ports/opt/gtk/older packages or older sources? | 12:44 |
| timcowchip | that's ok, I'l figure it out | 12:46 |
| timcowchip | I am reinstalling gtk-2.24.16 | 12:48 |
| timcowchip | at the current time | 12:48 |
| timcowchip | then I will update to gtk-2.24.17 at a later time | 12:48 |
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| timcowchip | it still doesn't work | 13:11 |
| timcowchip | pkgmk -in ? | 13:12 |
| timcowchip | no | 13:13 |
| tilman | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXJZVZFRFJc | 13:16 |
| tilman | big dog robot prototype | 13:16 |
| tilman | :o | 13:16 |
| timcowchip | prt-get remove gtk | 13:23 |
| sepen | tilman: lol | 13:23 |
| sepen | and without servos | 13:23 |
| tilman | :D | 13:23 |
| timcowchip | the deleted everything in /usr/ports/opt/gtk | 13:23 |
| timcowchip | the ports -u | 13:24 |
| sepen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gi6Ohnp9x8 | 13:24 |
| timcowchip | pkgmk -d -i in /usr/ports/opt/gtk | 13:24 |
| timcowchip | same error | 13:24 |
| tilman | yeah, amazing | 13:24 |
| timcowchip | so going back to gtk-2.4.16 | 13:25 |
| timcowchip | there was a gtk-2.4.16-1 to gtk-2.4.16-2 update yesterday | 13:26 |
| timcowchip | what was that for? | 13:26 |
| sepen | disable-introspection iirc | 13:27 |
| sepen | timcowchip: just use gitweb for see changesets | 13:27 |
| sepen | *to see | 13:27 |
| timcowchip | ok thanks | 13:28 |
| joacim | that thing looks more like bambi on ice than a metal gear type unit that kotaku compared it to | 13:28 |
| Amnesia | frinnst: why exacly is crux making using of rdate.. | 13:28 |
| Amnesia | the time protocol is kinda obsolete nowadays.. | 13:28 |
| sepen | obsolete? | 13:29 |
| sepen | I have some many boxes using ntp for years in production | 13:30 |
| teK_ | there's ntpdate in the ports, too | 13:30 |
| sepen | rdate -n is similar to ntpdate | 13:30 |
| teK_ | sepen: rdate doesnt use NTP | 13:30 |
| teK_ | ah | 13:30 |
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| sepen | Use SNTP (RFC 2030) instead of the RFC 868 time protocol | 13:30 |
| teK_ | well.. as long as it sets your | 13:30 |
| teK_ | clocks | 13:30 |
| timcowchip | should I prt-get lock gtk-2.4.16? | 13:31 |
| timcowchip | frinnst: should I prt-get lock gtk-2.4.16? | 13:31 |
| teK_ | you just broke two of frinnst's rules | 13:37 |
| teK_ | a) don't ask specific people to give others a chance to answer | 13:38 |
| timcowchip | if "prt-get remove gtk" and then deleting everything in /usr/ports/opt/gtk then "ports -u" and rebuilding gtk-2.4.17 didn't work, I don't know what will | 13:38 |
| teK_ | b) wait for more than four minutes for an answer | 13:38 |
| teK_ | *g* | 13:38 |
| timcowchip | oh, I'm still waiting | 13:38 |
| timcowchip | was I supposed to wait in silence? | 13:39 |
| sepen | a) | 13:39 |
| timcowchip | I'm not supposed to ask specific people? | 13:41 |
| timcowchip | its frinnst's port | 13:41 |
| sepen | and whats the problem? | 13:41 |
| sepen | expose your problem here to the channel, not to specific people | 13:41 |
| timcowchip | prt-get update gtk | 13:41 |
| sepen | it worked to me | 13:42 |
| timcowchip | so....there's a chance | 13:42 |
| timcowchip | I tried "prt-get remove gtk" and then deleting everything in /usr/ports/opt/gtk then "ports -u" and rebuilding gtk-2.4.17 didn't work, I don't know what will | 13:43 |
| sepen | could you use a paste service and paste your log? | 13:43 |
| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/FyKAsMS4 | 13:43 |
| sepen | sudo rdate -n europe.pool.ntp.org | 13:44 |
| sepen | sudo prt-get update gtk | 13:45 |
| timcowchip | it has been suggested, tried and failed to work | 13:45 |
| Romster | timcowchip, Microsoft Windows Excel 2000 spread sheet ... yeah seen it. i have a better tool than that. | 13:45 |
| Romster | Dark_light, i plan to split wicd when i have more time. | 13:45 |
| timcowchip | I thought you might | 13:46 |
| Amnesia | Romster: https://privatepaste.com/9d4ad433b3 | 13:46 |
| Amnesia | w.i.p | 13:46 |
| timcowchip | Romster: first of all thank you and please let me know if you need me to test or try building anything for you | 13:47 |
| timcowchip | I thought you might have a better tool | 13:48 |
| Dark_light | Romster: thanks :-) | 13:48 |
| Romster | i pretty much test most things myself, but thanks if i get stuck i do ask for help. | 13:48 |
| timcowchip | ok | 13:48 |
| sepen | timcowchip: it worked here | 13:48 |
| Romster | i use openntpd to keep my clocks in sync | 13:48 |
| sepen | I use cron + rdate | 13:49 |
| Romster | and run one on my gateway as a master ntp server to all my other machines behind it. | 13:49 |
| timcowchip | sepen: thanks for the encouragement | 13:49 |
| Romster | i thought about digital tv as that's got time stamps now and gps too. | 13:50 |
| sepen | timcowchip: whats your system date? | 13:50 |
| timcowchip | bash-4.2$ date | 13:50 |
| timcowchip | Mon Mar 4 13:48:46 UTC 2013 | 13:50 |
| sepen | you can force with something like: $ sudo date --set="Mon Mar 4 22:48:46 CET 2013" | 13:50 |
| sepen | and $ sudo hwclock -w | 13:51 |
| sepen | well, replace the date string with the one you need | 13:51 |
| timcowchip | in other words time travel to the future and then update gtk? | 13:51 |
| sepen | future? | 13:52 |
| timcowchip | set my time ahead | 13:52 |
| sepen | wow | 13:52 |
| sepen | you are the future guy? | 13:52 |
| sepen | *are you | 13:52 |
| timcowchip | to make the new version of gtk appear newer than the old version? | 13:52 |
| jaeger | timcowchip: one thing that's probably worth noting, your timezone seems to be set to UTC there | 13:53 |
| sepen | configure says; 'newly created file is older than distributed files!' | 13:53 |
| timcowchip | yes I noticed that too | 13:53 |
| timcowchip | what are the "distributed files" the source files? | 13:54 |
| sepen | yeah, so you need to adjust your time zone | 13:54 |
| jaeger | So you should probably fix your clock before trying to fix the package | 13:54 |
| jaeger | will make things easier | 13:54 |
| sepen | yep | 13:54 |
| sepen | timcowchip: check your /etc/rc.conf | 13:55 |
| jaeger | To which timezone does your /etc/localtime symlink point? Does your rc.conf have the correct timezone set? | 13:55 |
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| timcowchip | TIMEZONE=UTC in /etc/rc.conf | 13:57 |
| sepen | timcowchip: where u from? | 13:57 |
| timcowchip | Oregon | 13:58 |
| timcowchip | Linus is my neighbor | 13:58 |
| Amnesia | sucks to be you^^ | 14:00 |
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| timcowchip | /etc/cron/daily/rdate exists | 14:01 |
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| timcowchip | does that mean rdate sets my time if crond is in my /etc/rc.conf? | 14:01 |
| sepen | no | 14:02 |
| sepen | just use TIMEZONE var in rc.conf to configure it | 14:02 |
| sepen | as is explained in the manual | 14:02 |
| sepen | timcowchip: http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook3-0#ntoc50 | 14:03 |
| timcowchip | change it from utc to localtime? | 14:03 |
| timcowchip | I have to re-affirm here that my clovk is finally giving the correct time | 14:04 |
| sepen | timcowchip: did you ever read our handbook? | 14:04 |
| timcowchip | it never worked on my previous crux install | 14:04 |
| timcowchip | yes I have | 14:04 |
| timcowchip | and my clock is correct | 14:05 |
| timcowchip | it does not need adsjustment | 14:05 |
| sepen | I don't think so | 14:06 |
| timcowchip | "date" says the correct time | 14:06 |
| timcowchip | isn't that the time used for older and newer file comparisons? | 14:07 |
| timcowchip | so if the distributed file age is older than what I have installed, is it using the time it is on my system? | 14:09 |
| timcowchip | or the date the sourcs file was created | 14:09 |
| timcowchip | source | 14:09 |
| sepen | your paste says: 'Check your system clock' | 14:09 |
| sepen | your system clock is the problem | 14:10 |
| timcowchip | I know | 14:10 |
| sepen | I'm not sure about the UTC part of your date string | 14:10 |
| sepen | I'm using CET here and no idea about portland/oregon | 14:10 |
| timcowchip | PST | 14:10 |
| sepen | so use a PST timezone format | 14:10 |
| sepen | can't you find a valid timezone in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ to you? | 14:11 |
| timcowchip | tzselect 2 49 22 | 14:11 |
| timcowchip | Therefore TZ='America/Los_Angeles' will be used. | 14:12 |
| timcowchip | Local time is now: Mon Mar 4 06:09:59 PST 2013. | 14:12 |
| timcowchip | Universal Time is now: Mon Mar 4 14:09:59 UTC 2013 | 14:12 |
| timcowchip | the utc time is correct | 14:12 |
| sepen | so use TIMEZONE=America/Los_Angeles in your rc.conf | 14:13 |
| timcowchip | ok | 14:13 |
| timcowchip | then reboot? | 14:13 |
| sepen | no | 14:13 |
| sepen | read /etc/rc | 14:13 |
| timcowchip | ok | 14:13 |
| sepen | see | 14:13 |
| sepen | /bin/ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TIMEZONE /etc/localtime | 14:13 |
| sepen | that uses your timezone to create a symlink | 14:14 |
| sepen | you can create this symlink manually | 14:14 |
| sepen | first remove it $ sudo rm /etc/localtime | 14:14 |
| sepen | then create it with $ sduo ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime | 14:15 |
| sepen | then $ sudo hwclock --hctosys | 14:15 |
| sepen | that should work instead of rebooting your system | 14:15 |
| timcowchip | ok all this is not to change my system time, is it? | 14:16 |
| sepen | next time you install a crux box you should configure your rc.conf first | 14:16 |
| timcowchip | I did edit rc.conf duting the installation | 14:17 |
| sepen | your system time needs to know the timezone to calc desviations | 14:17 |
| sepen | timcowchip: well, so edit TIMEZONE too | 14:17 |
| sepen | timcowchip: finished the commands I pasted to you? | 14:17 |
| timcowchip | ok | 14:17 |
| sepen | and gtk worked? | 14:17 |
| timcowchip | it seems to be stuck on read /etc/rc | 14:19 |
| timcowchip | read /etc/rc as root? | 14:19 |
| sepen | eh?!?! | 14:19 |
| sepen | timcowchip: less /etc/rc | 14:20 |
| sepen | but there is no need if you use the commands I pasted to you | 14:20 |
| timcowchip | I enter read /etc/rc in a root terminal and its stuck | 14:20 |
| sepen | timcowchip: read (with less) /etc/rc is complementary to you, to know more about our rc startup scripts | 14:20 |
| sepen | what???? | 14:20 |
| sepen | read /etc/rc???? | 14:21 |
| timcowchip | oh | 14:21 |
| sepen | lol | 14:21 |
| timcowchip | that IS funny | 14:21 |
| sepen | is the first time you use linux? | 14:21 |
| timcowchip | ok | 14:21 |
| sepen | why not use ubuntu or tuntubuntu instead of crux? | 14:21 |
| timcowchip | I thought it was to avoid having to reboot | 14:21 |
| sepen | 'read /etc/rc'? | 14:22 |
| sepen | no | 14:22 |
| sepen | timcowchip: do you know what is a rc script? | 14:22 |
| timcowchip | I'm a Slackware packager | 14:22 |
| sepen | wow | 14:22 |
| timcowchip | I know | 14:22 |
| timcowchip | slackware's in trouble | 14:23 |
| sepen | timcowchip: http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook3-0#ntoc3 | 14:23 |
| sepen | "....BSD-style initscripts...." | 14:23 |
| timcowchip | so I edited rc.conf s/UTC/America/Los_Angeles | 14:24 |
| sepen | /etc/rc is a script, if you're a packager I assume you know what is a sheebang line | 14:24 |
| sepen | so head -1 /etc/rc will tell you that will be executed by bash | 14:24 |
| sepen | timcowchip: yeahhh | 14:25 |
| sepen | and use /etc/rc to know what does the system at boot time | 14:25 |
| sepen | to avoid a reboot | 14:25 |
| timcowchip | ok then | 14:25 |
| sepen | timcowchip: jaeger pointed that to you a long ago | 14:26 |
| sepen | ;D | 14:26 |
| timcowchip | also made the link /bin/ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TIMEZONE /etc/localtime | 14:26 |
| sepen | 22:51 <@jaeger> timcowchip: one thing that's probably worth noting, your timezone seems to be set to UTC there | 14:26 |
| timcowchip | should I change it to /bin/ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TIMEZONE /etc/UTC? | 14:27 |
| sepen | ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime | 14:27 |
| sepen | I pasted to you the correct command a long ago, where is the problem? | 14:28 |
| sepen | bbl | 14:28 |
| timcowchip | I see, you were quoting jaeger from a long time ago | 14:29 |
| timcowchip | I'm blind in one eye........... | 14:29 |
| timcowchip | . /etc/rc.conf | 14:39 |
| timcowchip | it seems to be working | 14:39 |
| timcowchip | takes forever to build something on my hardware | 14:40 |
| timcowchip | thank you sepen:) | 14:40 |
| Amnesia | anyone of you folks running a tiling manager? | 14:45 |
| timcowchip | wmfs2 | 14:45 |
| timcowchip | I edited the wmfs | 14:45 |
| timcowchip | port | 14:45 |
| teK_ | -2 | 14:46 |
| teK_ | oop | 14:46 |
| teK_ | ss | 14:46 |
| timcowchip | its wmfs2 now http://wmfs.info/ | 14:46 |
| Amnesia | timcowchip: yeah I know wmfs | 14:46 |
| Amnesia | I want to get some decent output using qemu / sdl | 14:46 |
| timcowchip | I like it | 14:46 |
| Amnesia | using qemu? | 14:47 |
| timcowchip | ever tried xephyr? | 14:47 |
| timcowchip | there isn't a port, but I've used it on slackware, arch and debian | 14:48 |
| timcowchip | it should be easy to make a port | 14:48 |
| Amnesia | no need for it | 14:48 |
| Amnesia | nvm, I'll check #qemu | 14:48 |
| timcowchip | you can use it to check your wmfsrc without actually running wmfs | 14:49 |
| timcowchip | or awesome or spectrwm too | 14:49 |
| Amnesia | k | 14:49 |
| Amnesia | think you misinterpreted my question:) | 14:50 |
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| timcowchip | =======> Building '/usr/ports/opt/gtk/gtk#2.24.17-1.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded. thanks again sepen | 14:57 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: mplayer: 2013-01-14 -> 2013-03-04 | 15:13 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: gtk-32: updated to version 2.24.17 | 15:13 |
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| jaeger | has rotwang been around lately? | 16:09 |
| sepen | on irc? | 16:17 |
| sepen | at least he sent me an email this past sunday, about hal ;D | 16:18 |
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| timcowchip | my wmfsrc is bitchin | 16:34 |
| timcowchip | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2013-03-04-0840111024x768scrot.php | 16:48 |
| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/7m4pDJFi | 16:54 |
| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/eTxK4wg5 | 16:55 |
| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/i4GiCwP3 | 16:55 |
| timcowchip | btw sepen: my clock is now WRONG | 17:00 |
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| himynameisphil | hi all | 17:09 |
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| timcowchip | hi | 17:13 |
| timcowchip | I fixed my clock | 17:14 |
| timcowchip | /bin/ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TIMEZONE /etc/UTC | 17:14 |
| Romster | timcowchip, that's done from /etc/rc when you reboot. | 17:23 |
| jaeger | you overwrote /etc/UTC with a broken symlink? | 17:23 |
| jaeger | or replaced the proper line in /etc/rc.conf with that? | 17:24 |
| jaeger | er, /etc/rc I meant | 17:25 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: xorg-libpixman-32: updated to version 0.28.2 | 17:29 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: pango-32: updated to version 1.32.5 | 17:33 |
| Romster | i missed those. | 17:43 |
| jaeger | I'm just updating a few my script saw | 17:43 |
| jaeger | got a couple more coming | 17:43 |
| Romster | mind sharing the script? | 17:44 |
| Romster | i was gonna write one but if you've already done that. | 17:44 |
| jaeger | You already have it somewhere, I posted it ages ago during the multilib hatching... gimme a sec, though | 17:44 |
| Romster | i probably burried it in my filesystem | 17:44 |
| Romster | unless it was that verchk | 17:45 |
| jaeger | that's one of them, this is the other | 17:45 |
| jaeger | http://pastebin.com/62tMDHxQ | 17:45 |
| jaeger | It's dead simple but useful | 17:46 |
| Romster | oh seems i've got some duplicates in my repo | 17:46 |
| Romster | ah got that ~/bin/check-32-versions | 17:47 |
| Romster | forgot i had that | 17:47 |
| timcowchip | so, /bin/ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TIMEZONE/etc/UTC then? | 17:47 |
| jaeger | don't change anything in /etc/rc, just fix the timezone var in /etc/rc.conf | 17:48 |
| jaeger | TIMEZONE=America/Chicago <-- example | 17:48 |
| timcowchip | TIMEZONE=UTC | 17:48 |
| Romster | eek openssl-32 is a little behind | 17:49 |
| jaeger | Romster: already updated that one here | 17:49 |
| jaeger | I haven't pushed yet, working on libffi-32 | 17:49 |
| Romster | k | 17:49 |
| jaeger | timcowchip: section 6.1.3 of the handbook talks about the variables in rc.conf | 17:49 |
| Romster | damn i would of done them if i had of used that script. | 17:49 |
| jaeger | I run it every now and then to check, today was one of those times | 17:50 |
| Romster | timcowchip, you shouldn't be doing anything other than what the handbook says todo. | 17:50 |
| Romster | unless you really really really know what your doing and accept the risks of breaking your system | 17:50 |
| Romster | i've already broken my system many times and fixed it myself. and learned. | 17:51 |
| Romster | mostly toolchain issues -_- | 17:51 |
| jaeger | libffi-32 will take a bit longer, it's installing libs in the wrong place | 17:51 |
| Romster | when i do my own. | 17:51 |
| Romster | no rush | 17:52 |
| timcowchip | ok all I want is to have the correct time on my clock and be able to update "older" with " newer" ones | 17:52 |
| jaeger | ah, they override prefix with a hardcoded location | 17:52 |
| jaeger | stupid | 17:52 |
| Romster | sed in that case. | 17:52 |
| jaeger | /usr/ports/work/libffi-32/pkg/usr/lib32/../lib/libffi.a :P | 17:52 |
| timcowchip | I would like that to happen without any intervention on my part | 17:52 |
| Romster | doh | 17:52 |
| jaeger | timcowchip: set the TIMEZONE var in /etc/rc.conf and reboot. done | 17:52 |
| jaeger | you don't need to change /etc/rc | 17:52 |
| Romster | timcowchip, setting TIMEZONE and rebooting should work fine. | 17:53 |
| jaeger | /etc/rc will take the value you specify in /etc/rc.conf and set the symlink FOR you | 17:53 |
| Romster | oops i repeated what jaeger said | 17:53 |
| timcowchip | that's nice | 17:54 |
| Romster | one of us should opena bug report for hardcoded paths in libffi later. | 17:54 |
| Romster | jaeger, i don't see any mailing list commits for compat-32 either | 17:55 |
| Romster | core opt xorg isn't compat-32 official too? | 17:55 |
| jaeger | the hooks probably aren't set up yet | 17:57 |
| jaeger | it's all new | 17:57 |
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| jaeger | there's some autotools weirdness happening, will have to track that down | 18:00 |
| jaeger | I'll go ahead and push the openssl-32 update for now | 18:00 |
| Romster | autohell :D | 18:00 |
| Romster | if you get really stuck i can try after table tennis after work tonight | 18:01 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: openssl-32: updated to version 1.0.1e | 18:01 |
| Romster | but you probably know autotools as good if not better than me. | 18:01 |
| jaeger | I wouldn't bet on that, heh | 18:01 |
| jaeger | I've used it a lot but never really learned its inner workings | 18:02 |
| Romster | oh i've dissected parts of it | 18:02 |
| jaeger | I will take another look at it in a bit, got some other stuff to do at the moment | 18:02 |
| jaeger | ah, you're probably ahead of me on it, then | 18:02 |
| Romster | k bbl | 18:02 |
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| jaeger | ok, worked around that for now. I didn't compare it to the previous version, will have to do that at some point | 18:33 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: libffi-32: updated to version 3.0.12 | 18:38 |
| rmull | Am I the only one getting underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBFAME warnings when building stuff with autotools? | 18:39 |
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| jaeger | I don't think I've seen that one yet | 18:48 |
| jaeger | I don't have libfame installed, for what that's worth | 18:48 |
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| rmull | jaeger: Okay, thanks for the feedback | 18:56 |
| jaeger | np | 19:01 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.0]: fontconfig-32: updated to version 2.10.2 | 19:02 |
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| Romster | rmull, known problem it's nothing big jsut an irritating warning, i'll fix sometime | 23:22 |
| Romster | http://www.weather.com.au/vic/portland/current 23.7C compared to the 28C i had earlier but the house is still cooking. | 23:55 |
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