IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2013-04-07

shirokurolet me try to rebuild ncurses-32 to see real quick what it says00:00
shirokurochecking for Gpm_Open in -lgpm... no00:00
shirokuroconfigure: error: Cannot link with GPM library00:00
shirokurochecking for gpm.h... yes00:00
shirokuroreverse the order a bit, but yeah, that was fast00:00
shirokurobut the contrib gpm has a lot of patches in it, i don't know00:02
Romsterjust testing that now and got that too.00:02
shirokuroi didnt' think gpm was that broken00:02
Romsterugh i got too much stuff to review and i'm still tired been working weekends and during the week.00:02
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Romster=======> Building '/var/ports/packages/util-linux-32#2.22.2-1.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded.00:05
Romsterwith gpm installed and ncurses-32 compiled with --without-gpm00:06
shirokuroi can't remember where it started to break00:07
shirokurosorry00:07
Romsterwell i'm testing all of prt-get dependent --all ncurses-3200:07
Romstererror logs are very helpful.00:08
shirokuroi don't know if this is because of our --disable-nls, but also such like export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 uxterm doesn'tw ork properly, hence stuff like wine in different locales doesn't work work properly00:09
shirokuroi was trying to play games in japanese00:09
shirokuroi noticed we don't have texinfo at all00:09
shirokuroit's no big deal, i use a vm for stuff like that, but i thought i'd bring it up maybe i'm doing something wrong00:10
Romsteri've brought that up numerous times, i neven forcked crux ages ago with NLS support in, but it's been abandoned for a few years now. concensious is crux is a small distro so they don't want to install NLS files, but i personally would say tolet them install locale files,. those that don't want them can edit there pkgadd.conf to ignore installing those instead. but that opinion goes to /dev/null00:11
Romsters/neven forcked/even forked/00:11
shirokuroi will fork binary/nls crux with you ;)00:12
Romsteri've been down that path already.00:12
shirokurodon't kick me btw00:12
shirokuroXD i've been drinking, sorry00:12
Romsterhad runit as well instead of sysvinit.00:12
shirokuroi'm happy with the simplicity of sysvinit00:13
Romsteroh i've been drinking last night, tired and recovering now, don't worry i rant far more than you have so far.00:13
shirokurothere is nothing in our init files that i can't understand00:13
shirokuroi rebuilt all of core after removing disable nls but i still couldn't get multilanguage support00:13
shirokuroi think i forgot to kut a stray rm -r $PKG/usr/share/locale or something00:13
Romstersysvinit is nice i was jsut set on the watchdog timer and parallel services starting back then.00:13
RomsterLANG st and exported in /etc/profile ?00:14
Romsterset*00:14
shirokuroi have export LANG="ja_JP.UTF-8" in /etc/profile00:14
shirokurohave done00:14
shirokurobash is never going to jabber at me in japanese00:15
shirokurono matter what i try00:15
Romsteroh some/most ports may have a rm -r something/po or --disable-nls you need to remove them as well.00:15
Romsterand localegen or how ever it's done for glibc's strings in native language. which is not NLS itself, but system strings use that.00:16
Romsteri'm a bit sketchy on how the entire locale nls stuff actually works specifically00:17
shirokuroi built glibc on linux from scratch once, i can't remember if it had locale-gen or if that was an invention of some distros00:17
Romsterbut afaik program calls said strng it's looked up from locale if it exists in po file it returns that if not it returns the C one.00:17
shirokuroi even have trouble with english locales though00:17
Romsterinvention of some distros i had that in my fork as well. see the crux handbook on how it's generated for crux.00:18
shirokuroe.g. spectrwm GB2312.1980.0 glphs from these sets won't be draw00:18
shirokuron00:18
shirokuroi believe that's a great britian deal, and that's only because i switched from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-800:18
Romsternot all fonts have all sylphs either00:19
RomsterLANG=en_AU.utf800:19
shirokuroifrom what i read that one is covered in xorg-font-adobe-100dpi but that font does horrible things to your firefox00:19
shirokuroand xorg has specified that one is optional00:19
Romsterin my case but it's rather useless due to NLS being removed in programs.00:19
shirokurowhat does your money sign look like ? ;)00:20
Romsterstandard $00:20
shirokurobummer, that's like my only complaint with crux00:20
Romsterwith 1 line though it, i know the American $ sign has two lines though it.00:20
Romsterthough i haven't observed that on any American font.00:20
shirokuro$00:20
shirokuroyeah, i use en_US.UTF-8 and i've got the one00:21
Romsterlikely lost in irc transfer unless irc is set to use utf-8 as well.00:21
Romster-- Packages installed00:21
Romsterreadline-3200:21
Romstersqlite300:21
Romstersqlite3-3200:21
Romsteronly thing i haven't tested was zsnes-3200:22
shirokurosorry, maybe --without-gpm can work00:22
shirokuroi had a big failure about 3 weeks ago00:22
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: ncurses-32: disable gpm as we have no gpm-32 package00:23
Romsteri can't reproduce it00:23
shirokurothat will do, thanks guys00:24
Romsternote that most of the stuff i've accumliated over the years is big ugly has many dependencies.00:24
Romsternot drinking tonight i think my liver will hate me if i keep drinking every night.00:26
shirokuro;)00:26
Romsterbumblebee working and bbswitch got any patches or have you already forked that stuff in your own ports tree?00:26
shirokurov33 went through that whole ordeal00:27
shirokuroi tried to tell him bumblebee is about to be extinct due to DRI_PRIME but00:27
shirokuroif you want to improve your pkgfile, make it depend on konstantin/pitman's dkms-nvidia, and sed the pkgfile to /usr/lib/nvidia from /usr/libnvidia-bumblebee00:28
shirokuroalso create a symbolic link: ln -s /usr/lib/libjpeg-turbo/libturbojpeg.so /usr/lib/libjpegturbo.s00:28
shirokuroo00:28
Romsteri glossed over the backlog00:28
shirokuroalso create a readme that says it's broken in xorg server 1.14.0 because of nvidia needing older abi version00:29
shirokurofrankly nouveau has a viable solution due to one guy, dave arlied from redhat00:29
shirokuroit's what i use anyway00:29
Romsteroh so it's obsolete already... go figure it never worked properly to begin with.00:29
shirokuroi used bumblebee for a while00:29
shirokurobut i don't like proprietary shit00:29
shirokuroprime works with the latest xrandr, xorg-server, and kernel, that's it00:29
Romsteri oly tried to package it off arch with no hardware to test it on for v33's sake.00:30
Romstersince my foo is stronger than his.00:30
shirokuroversus bumblebee's turbojepg, libbsd, virtualgl, etc. etc.00:30
Romsterso just use prime and nuke bumblebee00:30
shirokurothat's my advice, but00:30
shirokuroand this probably only lasts a few weeks,00:30
shirokuroshould point them to this https://github.com/shirokuro/crux-ports/tree/master/xorg-xf86-video-nouveau00:31
Romsterwish nvidia would bloody hurry up on a newer ABI to match xorg-server 1.14.000:31
shirokuroxorg crashes becauses it fails to check gou state when switching ttys00:31
Romsteri've already observed that too and even tried the nvidia beta drivers00:32
shirokuroi haven't tested 313.*00:32
shirokurowith prime you just do xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink nouveau Intel , load a compositor e.g. compton or xcompmgr, and prefix everything you want the nvidida card to run with DRI_PRIME=100:33
shirokuroDRI_PRIME=1 glxgears00:33
Romsteris that that same patch off that bug report page?00:33
shirokuroprobably, i found it here recently https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6291600:34
Romsterif the patch is official i can add it to the driver.00:34
shirokurothey haven't added it upstream because it's really hacky00:34
shirokuroi tried to ask dave airlield about it but couldn't get a hold of him00:35
Romsterthey killed the return FALSE; O_O00:35
Romstera hack or what.00:35
shirokurowell, the intel card will pick it up00:35
Romstercan't add that patch until they have a better solution. or release a newer version with the fix.00:36
shirokuroyeah00:36
shirokuroi use it, but i don't condone it00:36
shirokuroi'm still learning Xlib myself, so i don't know00:36
shirokuroi'd like to help airlied in his quest though00:36
Romsteryeah just use it for yourself until a better solution comes out.00:36
shirokurowhen i switch gpus it's like it polls for all other connected devices again00:42
shirokuroswitch ttys*00:42
shirokuro[   159.764] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard (/dev/input/event3)00:42
shirokuroif i had not set intel framebuffer by default i wonder what would happen00:43
Romsterhttp://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/lib/libXi-1.7.1.tar.bz200:46
RomsterERROR 502: Bad Gateway.00:46
Romsterfreedesktop is crapping out /again/00:46
Romstershirokuro, probably crash 8shrugs*00:46
shirokuroyeah, seems like freedesktop.org has an outage every other night.. bums me out because i spent a couple years in portland where it's hosted00:47
shirokurooregon state university i think00:47
Romsteroh00:47
shirokuroit's a good school though ^_^00:47
shirokurohey romster, have you ever heard of nick cave?00:48
shirokuromy favorite guy out of australia00:48
Romsteryep00:49
Romsternick cave and the bad seeds00:49
shirokuroya00:49
shirokuroand he had the birthday party before that00:49
shirokuroi don't think they got any commercial success though00:49
shirokuroi was happy when his script was made into a major hollywood movie though00:49
Romsterhttp://www.mail-archive.com/pld-cvs-commit@lists.pld-linux.org/msg307312.html glad they got it... but god damn surely there are mirrors.00:49
shirokuro"Waiting for...[]..."00:50
Romstercan't get to freedesktop to even find a mirror.00:51
shirokuroportland has no money00:51
Romsteroh wait i forgot i do have my own mirror lists http://crux.ster.so/version-sort/00:51
Romsterso your in Portland origo or ow ever it's spelled i'm in Portland australia00:51
shirokuroi was in portland oregon, i'm in bakersfield, ca now00:52
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: [notify] json-c: update to 0.1100:52
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: python: update to 2.7.400:52
shirokuroi miss it00:52
Romsterah00:53
Romstergrr even genntoo mirrors don't have libXi 1.7.1 yet either....00:54
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-libxi: update to 1.7.100:54
Romsterseriosuly freedesktop needs to finx there shit.00:54
Romsterand someone bet me to the update because i couldn't get the bloody source file.00:54
Romsterjue no less :D00:55
Romsterhow on earth did you download the file it's gateway timeout for me.00:56
Romstereven my 100mbit host can't download it.00:57
Romsterjue, can you put the files somewhere so i can get it and mirror it on crux.ster.so/distfiles/00:58
jueRomster: downloaded some days ago, not today00:58
Romsteroh i see.00:58
shirokurogentoo's servers timeout a lot for me00:59
shirokuroor don't even resolv00:59
shirokurooddly if i iswitch my nameserver to google's it works more often00:59
Romsteri googled the md5 sum got 2 results.01:00
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Romsterftp://ftp.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo.org/distfiles/only has libXi-1.7 -_- i'll just wait. only a trivial change.01:02
jueRomster: sure01:03
Romsterreason why i should get my mirror stuff sorted out so it's automatic.01:03
jueRomster: http://crux.s3.amazonaws.com/dist/libXi-1.7.1.tar.bz201:04
Romsterty it's up on http://crux.ster.so/distfiles/ now too.01:05
shirokuro ports -u shows it01:06
Romsteri remember when i bumped xorg-server i had to wait for freedesktop to work as well same issue as is now.01:07
shirokurois there for some way for xorg-server to pull in forcefully such updates as xorg-xf86-input-evdev?01:07
shirokuroi like our package manager so this isn't a criticism01:08
shirokuroi'm just curious01:08
Romsterxorg is the meta port01:08
Romsterthat pulls in such things.01:08
shirokuromarch=native is so badass01:10
Romsterexcept for distcc use :D01:10
shirokuroi don't know, my laptop sucks ,but the performance is huge01:10
Romsterecho \"\" | gcc -march=native -v -E - 2>&1 | grep cc1 | sed -e's/^.* - //g'01:11
Romsterrun that see what your native does.01:11
Romsterhandy when your curious too see what it turns on.01:11
shirokuroi'm guessing it's a SSE stuff01:12
shirokuro-march=corei7 -mcx16 -msahf -mno-movbe -maes -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mno-abm -mno-lwp -mno-fma -mno-fma4 -mno-xop -mno-bmi -mno-bmi2 -mno-tbm -mno-avx -mno-avx2 -msse4.2 -msse4.1 -mno-lzcnt -mno-rdrnd -mno-f16c -mno-fsgsbase --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param l2-cache-size=3072 -mtune=corei701:12
Romsterand cache size01:12
shirokuro:( xop? bmi? bmi2? i needed thaaat01:13
shirokurojust kidding01:13
shirokuroi should probably add -fstack-protector-something01:14
shirokuronot =all, that breaks stuff, but i remember some useful compromise01:14
Romstereh yeah that will break stuff.01:15
shirokurofstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -01:15
shirokurowhat does that do/01:15
shirokuroi was testing this a while ago with arch linux when i was trying to buffer overflow test.c01:16
shirokurothe kernel was telling me to stfu01:16
Romsternot sure what ssp is01:16
Romsterit's to align code to the size of the cpu buffer.01:17
shirokuroi made a program that scanfs for unlimited input and fstrack-protector=all defeated it immediately, but this subpar fstack option let it ru nan infinite loop01:17
shirokurobut i think a lot of our software is not so securityconscious and would not work with fstack-protector=all01:18
shirokurosorry, i have lame hobbies01:19
Romsterjue,  db isn't used anymore on python?01:19
jueoops, the other way around, it works again with db 5.3.x ;)01:21
jueRomster: search for 17477 here -> http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/9290822f2280/Misc/NEWS01:23
Romsterok so why remove db out of depends on line.... in python and it's version of db is 5.3.2101:28
Romsterwere you meant to remove gdbm and not db?01:28
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shirokuroi'm cybering with some guy on #nouveau01:29
shirokurohahah01:29
jueRomster: sorry, but I've added it again ;)01:29
jueRomster: and not removed?01:29
Romsterah right after i already started compiling python-32 too :D01:31
Romsterfinddeps python lists gdbm but not db is it really used at all?01:32
Romsterunless it statically links that into python01:33
jueldd /usr/lib/python/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so01:35
jueguess we have a bug in finddeps01:36
Romsterhmm i only just noticed pyconfig.h guess i should be using that one than the included one in python.01:37
Romsterhmm so there is, so i found another bug :D01:37
Romsterfinddeps naughty.01:38
Romstersrc/Python-2.7.4/pyconfig.h O_O tons of not needed stuff i see why we have our own pyconfig.h01:39
Romsteri'm doing this wrong python in opt supplies 32 and 64bit ifdefs i don't need that pyconfig-32.h file anymore.01:46
Romstersorry stupid moment.01:46
shirokurowhat the hell is a blow_bang01:48
shirokurohahah01:49
Romsterhmm no seems libxml2-python-32 requires that file...01:49
jueRomster: the problem is that the above ldd statement shows "/usr/lib64/libdb-5.3.so" whereas it's correctly listed as "/usr/lib/libdb-5.3.so" in our package db01:50
Romsterright it can't handle symlinks01:51
jueso IMO not a bug in finddeps01:51
Romsterand i clearly failed to read diff correctly sorry about that.01:52
juenp :)01:53
Romsterso your saying it's a ldd issue not showing the correct path?01:53
jueyes and no, lib64 is a sysmlink to lib so using both is correct01:54
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Romsteri remember about db not being used on python but i totally forgot and it hadn't been changed on python-3201:55
Romsterso shouldn't finddeps allow both paths?01:55
Romsterexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/X11/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH01:56
Romsteryeah that's our issue and it needs the lib32 path in there too01:56
Romsterand /usr/X11/lib is not used on my system. just looked.01:56
juethat's not the problem, it's the awk lookup in line 2501:57
Romsterguess i'll file a bug report.01:57
Romsterhmm i can barley read that in my current state.01:57
Romsterdon't look like a easy fix01:58
juehehe :)01:58
juewell, I'll care01:58
Romsterline 1501:58
jueno, 2501:59
Romsterlib ooh that's just a grep but done in awk01:59
Romsterack i'll leave that for you to fix.01:59
Romsterconfigure: error: Package requirements (xfixes >= 5) were not met:02:06
RomsterNo package 'xfixes' found02:06
Romster=======> ERROR: Building '/var/ports/packages/xorg-libxi#1.7.1-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed.02:06
Romsterfound a missing dependency :)02:06
Romsterjue, xorg-libxfixes missing you want to add that or should i push that?02:09
jueRomster: go for it, please02:10
Romsterk02:11
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: xorg-libxi-32: 1.7 -> 1.7.102:12
frinnstNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/man/man1/python.1.gz -> python2.1.gz02:13
frinnstwhat added that?02:14
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-libxi: added new dependency xorg-libxfixes02:14
Romsternote i idnd't add a notify as everyone has that xorg-libxfixes as part of xorg.02:14
Romsters/idnd't/didn't02:14
Romsternever saw that frinnst02:15
Romstergod damn it did a ports -u in my chroot with python-32 got reset didn't it -_- not touching that now. i'll look at that tomorrow.02:18
shirokuroi'm recruiting my lovers to crux! this one seemns knowledgeable, he's an amd hacker02:18
Romsterspamming the channel eh02:19
shirokurono :P02:19
Romstersure :D02:19
shirokurojust arguing with some guy, of cfourse i'm kidding about the lovers part02:19
shirokurooh yeah, i was bashing arch linux02:19
shirokurodon't worry, i'm forcing buttseks on him now02:32
shirokurokidding again...02:32
Romsterfood and coffee02:46
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frinnsthttp://i.imgur.com/DmaBmZ4.jpg06:25
joacimy2k. so much noise about nothing at all.06:27
teK_https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FMdZ3uwyTlE/UWBxmLbKHOI/AAAAAAABeaI/DvPegxYrlh0/w497-h373/picdump-775-24.jpg06:29
frinnstlol06:29
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v33hey guys09:33
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: qemu-kvm: drop duplicate port11:28
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Henesyspeaking of ports, I looked through the pkgmk, add, etc man pages and either missed or didn't see anything about the ability to automatically reinstall a port11:35
teK_prt-get update -fr portname11:36
teK_will rebuild and reinstall the port11:36
frinnstyes prt-get is your friend11:38
timcowchipwhat's the policy on using -k and -i flags for make in a Pkgfile?11:39
timcowchiphttp://pastebin.com/mknkWtkQ11:39
HenesyteK_, frinnst, thanks :)11:39
HenesyteK_, frinnst, the relevance is startx is giving me some ABI errors and a gentoo forum online told them to re-emerge some x11/xorg packages and then it worked. I figure that reinstalling here would have the same effect.11:40
teK_yes that would be the preferred way11:42
teK_you probably upgraded your xorg-server?11:43
teK_I did this with an intel card:11:43
teK_sudo prt-get update -fr xorg-xf86-input-mouse xorg-xf86-input-keyboard xorg-xf86-input-evdev xorg-xf86-input-synaptics xorg-xf86-video-intel11:43
timcowchip -i, --ignore-errors  -k, --keep-going11:45
HenesyteK_, I upgraded the kernel to 3.8.5 AND upgraded the x server11:46
frinnstyeah i think a xorg-server update required a rebuild of drivers due to abi stuff11:47
frinnstits not uncommon11:47
HenesyI've been seeing if I can build and install e17 for funsies, even if I will never use it :P11:48
teK_I did11:48
teK_tyls in terminology is funny11:49
Henesyi recall using Bodhi a looong time ago and I remembered it being very pretty without giving my computer a stroke *cough* KDE *cough*11:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: [notify] qemu: split port11:52
teK_http://wurstball.de/static/ircview/pictures/4e5277d24dffc58d641ebb5d0e4b5dbe.png11:53
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frinnsthaha11:55
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HenesyteK_, that fixed it alright, XFCE starts, but when I put enlightenment_start in .xinitrc it goes through, initializes and then dies12:13
Henesyit says it ran enlightenment_start successfully then it says xinit: lost connection12:14
Henesyor something like that12:14
teK_does ldd `which enlightenment_start` look ok?12:15
Henesynot a dynamic executable?12:16
teK_uh12:17
teK_not for me12:17
Henesywell12:17
Henesyum12:17
Henesychmod?12:19
teK_don't you get an error message?12:20
Henesywith the 'which enlightenment_start' yes, I substituted in the output of the quoted which12:20
Henesyldd /usr/bin/enlightenment_start is what I ran12:21
teK_no, on xinit12:21
teK_or startx12:21
Henesynope12:21
Henesy/home/sean/.xinitrc: line 1: /usr/bin/enlightenment_start: Success12:22
Henesyxinit: connection to X server lost12:22
Henesythen it's done12:22
teK_maybe /var/log/Xorg.log has something12:23
teK_although I don't think so12:24
Henesyno errors as far as I can see12:25
Henesywoop12:25
Henesyfound one12:25
Henesy(WW) warming, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.12:25
Henesyonly thing that brings anything resembling an error12:26
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teK_Romster: please update ant to 1.9.0 it currently won't build13:20
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HenesyteK_, back on startx, root's starts fine, but underprivileged users cannot start x or run "links -g"14:12
Henesyit's not X it's something to do with privileges14:12
Henesybut root also cannot start enlightenment14:14
Henesyand does so with no errors14:14
teK_default installation does not require root to run or e1714:14
Henesychecking XFCE on underprivileged14:15
Henesyxfce4 starts on underprivileged user14:16
Henesyso it's e1714:16
timcowchipprt-get depinst slim14:18
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teK_that won't help running e17..14:19
timcowchipedit /etc/slim.conf | add slim to rc.conf modules | reboot14:19
timcowchipworth a try14:19
teK_Henesy: I'd put xterm into ~/.xinitrc, start the X server and run enl.._start from the xterm window14:20
teK_maybe you'll see the error there14:20
timcowchipyou'll need to edit .xinitrc for slim multiple environments https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM#Multiple_environments14:22
timcowchipif you choose to try it14:22
HenesyteK_, got an error14:22
HenesyThe file '/usr/bin/enlightenment_start' is marked as an executable but could not be run by the operating system14:23
Henesyexec: Exec format error14:23
teK_yeah14:23
teK_for me it's an executable, not for you14:24
Henesyremove and symlink ?14:24
teK_what does file /usr/bin/enlightenment_start say?14:24
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teK_symlink to what?14:24
teK_/usr/bin/enlightenment_start: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.39, stripped14:24
teK_for me14:24
Henesyshould I reinstall the packages?14:25
teK_I wonder how you got there first place14:25
teK_what does file say?14:25
Henesy0 lines in it14:26
teK_well then you SHOULD reinstall at least e1714:26
Henesyhehe, and I learned how to do that easily today14:27
teK_:)14:27
semionoplease hel me to boot crux from grub4dos menu.lst from usb stick? /crux.iso or direct /boot/vmlinuz any way?14:28
semionoplease :)14:28
teK_our ISO files are hybrid ones and can be dd'ed directly to usb media so I suppose crux.iso should suffice14:28
timcowchipdd if=crux-3.0.iso of=/dev/sdb14:29
semionohmm.. i need multiboot menu14:30
teK_afaik grub2 can boot from iso files14:30
teK_though I never tried that myself14:31
semionosomething wrong this title CRUX  map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /crux-3.0.iso (hd32)  map --hook  root (hd32)  kernel /boot/vmlinuz  initrd /boot/initramfs console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0  boot14:31
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timcowchipif you want to boot directly from the usb stick you have to enable usb boot in you machines bios settings14:41
timcowchipalso set the usb to emulate hdd sometimes in the bios14:41
timcowchipdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=409614:42
timcowchipgood way to clean up the partition table on a usb stick14:43
timcowchipthen dd if=crux-3.0.iso of=/dev/sdb14:43
timcowchipdo I need doxygen for e17?15:04
Henesytimcowchip, I don't believe so15:07
timcowchipok thanks henesy15:14
Henesynp :)15:14
timcowchipever get it working?15:14
HenesyIt *should* be working, and supposedly all I have to do is reinstall the libraries since I did a bunch of upgrading recently15:17
timcowchipI copied the repo sync file to /etc/ports, enabled the e17 prtdir in prt-get.conf, then prt-get depinst e1715:17
Henesyyessir15:19
Henesyi recommend prt-get depinst terminology to complete the fun15:19
timcowchipok15:19
timcowchipgot to log out and back in to elightenment15:32
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timcowchipgreets from e1715:36
timcowchipwow things have changed some since my last try15:37
timcowchipnice!15:38
Henesy17.0 was only recently released, so it is now officially able to be called e17 :)15:41
timcowchipI used slim to log into it15:42
timcowchipprobably not the solution, but I have 3 other wm's15:43
timcowchipI'm liking this one the best right now15:44
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Henesywell I updated all of the packages for e17 and it's still not starting17:25
HenesyteK_, ldd now outputs the normal stuff17:26
Henesyno non-executable junk anymore17:26
Henesystill don't have startx working with e17 though :\17:49
Henesywoop17:50
Henesygot it17:50
Henesynot quite sure what I did, but now it works17:50
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v33any suggestions for pcmanfm icons?18:05
v33tired of orange or w/e that thing is18:05
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Romsterv33, i've rebuilt firefox to newer glib18:32
v33thanks Romster!18:33
Romsteri have a firefox-32 port as well, so i can play runescape18:34
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Romstercan use any gtk icons you like really18:35
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v33was wondering what the popular ones are18:41
v33you have no idea how happy i am bumblebee works xD18:41
v33i noticed i average 50c now, vs, with ubuntu, gentoo, and even windows, it was 55-5818:45
Romsterthough i got told by shirokuro that prime will be taking over and bumblebee will be left to rot.18:48
Romstercrux doesn't run a ton of services by default, no surprise there.18:49
v33oh yea, he told me aboutprime. hope it does well!19:25
HenesyRomster, are we talking about Transformers or programs?19:26
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timcowchipQu'est-ce que sup?22:18
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v33oh man, a new dbz movie23:18
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