IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2013-04-12

timcowchipcruxab ports still down?00:00
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: git: 1.8.1.5 -> 1.8.2.100:19
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: syslog-ng: 3.3.7 -> 3.3.800:22
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: nbd: 3.2 -> 3.300:22
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: vala: 0.19.0 -> 0.20.100:22
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: mercurial: 2.5.2 -> 2.5.400:22
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: tornadoweb: 2.4.1 -> 3.0.100:22
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: scribus: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.200:22
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elderKHey guys,00:51
elderKis there any way to reverse an update?00:51
elderKSkype crashes on malloc; there are some fixes online to do with LD_PRELOAD but that doesn't do it for me. I maybe doing something wrong.00:51
elderKI don't particularly want to rebuild every dependency of Skype: that's like, everything...00:51
elderKX, etc.00:52
elderK:) I'm not an expert, not by far, so any advice is welcome :)00:52
frinnstdid you upgrade skype? or are there a lot of libs that you need to downgrade?01:02
elderKI just did a sysup. Skype wasn't upgraded, just a bunch of other libraries.01:02
elderKI think there's a lot of libraries I have to downgrade.01:02
elderKAlthough... unless prt-get keeps a log of what was upgraded, I have no idea what they all were.01:03
elderKEither way, learning how to revert an update will be useful :)01:03
elderKI'm not sure how to figure out in any more detail what the problem with Skype is. It just SEGVs when starting.01:03
elderKAnd gdb tracing shows that it's in malloc@plt.01:03
frinnstthere is no easy rollback. easiest is probably to clone the git-repos of opt/contrib/whatever and place the git repos in your prt-get.conf above the rest01:03
elderKGoogling that shows stuff about preloading, etc but the preload never works.01:03
elderKit just says "cannot be preloaded, bla bla"01:03
frinnsttry downgrading glib only.. i have a feeling that causes it01:04
elderKYeah.01:04
frinnstif it even uses it01:04
elderKGlib seems to be the last thing it loads, LD_DEBUG=libs01:04
elderKthen faults out.01:04
elderKnothing is after glib.01:04
elderK:) So, how do I downgrade?01:04
elderKDo I still need to clone contrib and such?01:04
frinnstdoubt it01:05
frinnsthttp://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/opt.git;a=blob;f=glib/Pkgfile;h=34323a44ca61f22368889ba53acebc9570152a19;hb=5ddff2842fdaa61a0a6a990b524e3512356e586d01:05
frinnstuse that Pkgfile for glib01:05
frinnsti dont use skype, and have never looked at the port01:06
frinnstbut try running "finddeps skype"01:06
elderKdfiref don't have a finddeps?01:06
frinnstits in prt-utils01:07
elderK:) Okay. Cool01:07
elderKHm01:09
elderKOkay, I have a list of the dependencies.01:09
elderKIf downgrading glib doesn't work, do I hvae to downgrade them too?01:09
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elderK:D Worked frinnst !01:18
elderKThanks man!01:18
elderK:)01:18
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frinnstah, bummer.. so glib is semi-broken then03:10
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teK_has anyone vdpau running without using libva? I get no video with mplayer if I force vdpau output04:29
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teK_vlc uses libva+vdpau and works but libva support is not yet there in mplayer04:29
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frinnsti have to use gl output.. uses a lot of cpu05:19
frinnstsilly glamor05:19
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poulecacahi05:20
frinnsthello05:21
teK_yeah I like mplayer a lot so I'd prefer vdpau output with mplayer  over libva output with vlc ;)05:26
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joacimi always found that xv was faster05:40
joacimsubtitles looked nicer too05:40
joacimI've never tried vdpau tho05:40
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teK_I found libva > libvdpau ~= xv06:53
teK_wrt CPU usage06:53
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sepenhey06:54
teK_ho06:54
prologicopencl on crux?06:55
prologiccuda + nvidia-opencl libs?06:55
teK_I (very shortly) tried that last week06:56
teK_switched to windows then. :-)06:56
sepenwin 3.11?06:59
teK_3.11+3.8907:00
sepenlol07:00
poulecaca:)07:01
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guzzanoEy guys, mate not available in crux 3.0?07:22
jaegerguzzano: http://crux-mate.googlecode.com07:22
jaegertrunk is for CRUX 3.007:23
guzzanoOh, sorry, thanks jaeger07:24
jaegernp07:25
jaegeryou should be able to replace "branches/crux2.8" with "trunk" in the curl command if I remember right07:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: cups-filters: update to 1.0.3407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: scite: update to 3.3.107:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: php: update to 5.4.1407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: php-fcgi: update to 5.4.1407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: php-fpm: update to 5.4.1407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: mod_php: update to 5.4.1407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: php-mysql: update to 5.4.1407:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.4.1407:25
guzzanoYes, I imagined07:26
jaegerok07:28
prologicbitcoind and bfgminer are in my ports collection07:43
prologicif anyone wants to gives these a try07:43
teK_include a manual on how to enable opencl on crux ;)07:44
prologicyeah that I'm not sure of yet07:47
prologicI have to look into how to do this07:47
prologicand what hw is supported07:47
prologicanyway I should be able to get a few hundred Mh/s with the hw I have access to even with just CPU mining07:48
prologicI have one GPU based miner with OPenCL right now (iMac)07:48
cruxbot[core.git/2.8]: [notify] curl: update to 7.30.007:52
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: [notify] curl: update to 7.30.007:52
teK_few hundred? which cpu?07:52
prologicno :)07:55
prologicI just have a few pcs :)07:55
prologicand one gpu miner07:55
prologicI think I'm doing 200+ Mh/s now07:55
teK_combined?08:02
teK_oh and btw: hipster!08:02
prologic:P08:04
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diversejaeger: python's footprint needs to be updated09:47
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timcowchiphttp://pastebin.com/Tf4BCFWD10:05
timcowchip Building '/usr/ports/opt/chromium/chromium#26.0.1410.63-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed10:06
timcowchipwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!10:06
sependid not you read the commit about new dep?10:07
timcowchipno10:07
sepenanyways if it was due to speech-dispatcher the build failed and the beginning aprox10:07
timcowchipI will now10:07
sependepinst speech-dispatcher and update chromium10:07
sepensorry, I should use email notification for that10:08
timcowchipwould prt-get depupdate accomplish this?10:08
sependepupdate is not implemented officially, but yes10:08
timcowchipI guess that would be in the depupdate pro column10:10
timcowchipthanks sepen :)10:10
horrorStruckbtw sepen , just FTR: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/1453/src/media/audio/linux/audio_manager_linux.cc?r1=191659&r2=191658&pathrev=19165910:10
sepennp10:18
sepenbbl10:18
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.8]: nss: updated to 3.14.211:05
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diversewith Footprint mismatches, are NEW files generally safe?12:47
teK_never had a case were they weren't12:48
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v33hey guys, anyone here work with security cameras and what not?16:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: wesnoth: contrib -> romster16:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: wesnoth-server: contrib -> romster16:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: timidity: contrib -> romster16:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: timidity-patches: contrib -> romster16:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: abe: contrib -> romster16:31
Romsterat work i do v3316:31
v33Romster: i need your help in something. i wanna put a motion detector in my car, and have it run on battery but work only as a motion detector. got any suggestions?16:32
Romsterwe just use special software like geovision to do that16:33
Romsterlook around linnux projects to detect movement in a picture.16:33
v33still need a camera...its going to be placed inside the car though16:33
Romsteryou could just wire up the door switches to trigger it to record.16:34
Romsterand ignition/radio and anything else.16:34
v33there are ones onlin ethat run on a regular battery...thought maybe you'd have some suggetions on that16:35
v334 AA's for about 8 hours16:35
Romsteror even a capacitance proximity detector change to the4 car body by a nearby moving object.16:35
v33h,...16:35
v33hm...16:35
Romsteryou could get a dc-dc converter and wire up a small sealed gel cell battery to run it, and you can get car chargers to recharge it when the ignition is on to get like 3 days run time without flattening your starting battery.16:36
v33i dont need 3 days, just need it for a daily use. ill charge the battery in the mornings xD16:37
Romsteryou'll get sick of removign batteries to swap them with a recharged set every morning.16:37
v33really dont wanna rewire my car. xD16:39
Romsterdon't have to rewire everything16:44
Romsterbut then i'm also a electronics tech, so i can easily do stuff like that.16:44
Romsterbut i haven't yet to the car. other than replace some lights with led's16:45
Romsterand no not some funky colour crap ones too, stock standard colours. so my car is legal.16:45
v33nice lol16:53
Romsteri have yet to replace the halogen headlights with HID lights though16:57
Romster35 watts equivelent to 200 watts, but i don't want no stinking 8000K blue tint, that makes everything look gray.16:58
Romster5500k is just a bit off yellow and not too blue.16:58
Romsteror maybe 6500k haven't decided yet.16:59
sepenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ObgIyxiN-Hs17:10
sepeninstall this on a car17:11
sepen;D17:11
sepena different sound on every fuse17:11
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: [notify] ntfs-3g: 2011.4.12 -> 2013.1.13 renamed from ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs17:14
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Romstersweet sepen i should do something like that.17:23
Romstera different sound on every switch17:23
sepenhehe17:27
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: wine: 1.5.27 -> 1.5.2818:06
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diversewhere is the skel file for xinitrc?19:00
diversenvm19:11
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v33so hows everyone doing22:00
Romsterdoing fine. i got 3 core 2 pcs for moosefs to setup.22:02
Romsteri am getting serious with my storage.22:03
Romsteri can also use it for backing up clients data and charging them for storage. -_-22:04
Romstersince the vala update libsecret doesn't even pick up vala anymore.22:10
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diverseAny nvidia users around?22:33
diverseI am trying to load startx but it complains about not finding the nvidia module.22:34
nogagplzdid you modprobe it22:35
diverseI tried, but I get this error: modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.22:36
nogagplzdid you install it22:37
nogagplzprobably need to rebuild it too if you've updated your kernel22:37
diversei did install by using prt-get depinst nvidia. I have not updated the kernel at all.22:38
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: libsecret: don't depend on vala or docbook-xsl22:51
Romsterdiverse, depmod -a22:52
Romstergl-select use xorg ; gl-select use nvidia ; startx22:53
Romsterany time you update a kernel module you need to run depmod -a22:53
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v33are you on a laptop by any chance?22:55
diverseRomster, thank you so much! Btw do I really need to run those two first commands before startx?22:56
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: libsecret: add missing man page23:01
Romstergod damn it forgot man page file.23:01
Romsteri have a laptop but i'm on my desktop23:01
Romsterdiverse, try without but if glxgears glxgears-32 (if you use 32bit video) don't work you probably will have too.23:01
diverseRomster: is it necessary to use those gl-select commands?23:01
diverseah23:02
v33i still cant get over how crux is like 7 degrees celcius cooler than gentoo23:03
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timcowchipv33: are you fromSweden?23:05
v33oh man i wish23:05
v33why do you ask timcowchip?23:05
timcowchipAnders Celsius was a Swede23:06
v33oh..23:06
timcowchipI thought maybe I'd been spelling his name wrong all these years23:07
timcowchipI thought the whole idea of Gentoo was to minimize resources23:08
timcowchipand therefore be more efficient23:09
timcowchipI've never tried Gentoo23:10
timcowchipI don't think I could figure out how to install it23:11
diverseRomster: ping23:13
Romstergentoo is about configability23:14
Romsterdiverse, i already answered your question.23:15
diverseRomster: pm23:15
Romster17:32:17 up 23 days, 31 min,  1 user,  load average: 13.36, 12.31, 9.4923:34
diversewow23:35
Romsterthat's my desktop23:35
Romstermy firewall is23:35
Romster17:33:48 up 78 days,  7:57,  5 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.18, 0.1023:35
Romsterand another pc23:36
Romster17:32:06 up  1:56,  1 user,  load average: 2.40, 1.76, 1.2923:36
Romstergot 2 others to setup yet.23:36
diverseRomster: "Unable to open evdev device /dev/input/event5"23:36
Romsteryou sure you got the devtmpfs and devtmpfsmount in your kernel as well?23:37
Romsterthough without them you shouldn't be able to boot at all.23:37
diversehow does that relate to my problem?23:38
Romsterdiverse, your using the nvidia binary driver right?23:38
diversecorrect23:38
Romsterdid you generate a xorg.conf with the nvidia tool?23:38
diverseand I used nvidia-xconfig to get the file.23:38
diverseindeed I did23:38
Romsterthat's all i ever do then do the gl-select dance.23:39
Romsterthen startx and it works.23:39
diverseit doesn't for me...23:39
Romsterpastebin your Xorg.log23:39
Romsterran revdep on your system?23:39
diverserevdep?23:40
diversealso, is there a tool to pastebin from the tty framebuffer?23:41
Romsterwgetpaste23:41
Romsterrevdep is in prt-utils23:41
diversewhat does it do?23:41
Romsterrevdep - check package linkage23:41
diverseah23:41
diverseso just run that as is?23:42
Romsteryou cna jsut for a report.23:42
Romsteror do RD_VERBOSE=2 revdep23:42
Romsterto see what actual library/binary is broken in a port or do prt-get update -fr `revdep`23:42
Romsterto automate rebuilding anything broken.23:43
diverseI will try that.23:43
diverseRomster: I ran revdep by itself and I didn't get any output when it finished.23:49
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diverseRomster: I will go with the wgetpaste23:50
Romsterso that means you got no broken ports.23:52
Romsterwgetpaste -s dpaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:53
diverseRomster: http://dpaste.com/1056849/23:55

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