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| leetspete1 | Anyone seen a 32-bit image for 3.0 floating around? | 02:29 |
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| prologic | I believe 3.0 is multilib | 02:56 |
| jaeger | leetspete1: nothing official; there's been some talk of it but nobody has stepped up to do it so far | 02:57 |
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| leetspete1 | jaeger: Thanks. I figured as much. I have a couple of 32-bit boxes still, think I'll just use 2.8 for now. | 05:18 |
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| diverse | leetspete1: he was thinking that if you had 32-bit only programs to run, you can do so in 3.0, since has multilib capabilities. However, what you are looking for is a 32-bit OS and Crux 3.0 is officially x86-64 only, so it won't meet your requirements. | 05:26 |
| leetspete1 | diverse: Yep, I read the announcement. I've been rolling my own 64-bit builds every couple of releases and using the official ones for 32-bit libs. | 05:29 |
| leetspete1 | But I've got some 32-bit machines, like this Thinkpad. | 05:30 |
| leetspete1 | So I figured if someone had made a go at it, that'd be easier than building a 32-bit version. | 05:34 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php: update to 5.4.15 | 06:47 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php-fcgi: update to 5.4.15 | 06:47 |
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| timcowchip | http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/05/09/swedens-king-queen-to-visit-d-c/ | 06:52 |
| timcowchip | New Sweden, Delaware | 06:59 |
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| Romster | leetspete1, i have done i686 packages for core http://crux.ster.so/packages/3.0/i686/core/ but i haven't uploaded the repository for building them on a i686 system yet. | 07:38 |
| Romster | just using the 3.0 repos for opt xorg contrib | 07:39 |
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| frinnst | hm, silly usb mass storage | 14:48 |
| frinnst | very racey when attempting to boot from one without a initrd | 14:48 |
| teK_ | have tried using its UUID? | 14:49 |
| teK_ | +you | 14:49 |
| frinnst | yes, i ran with rootdelay=5 before changing to uuid, now i get kernel panic | 14:50 |
| frinnst | bump it up to 10 seconds maybe | 14:50 |
| teK_ | I have this gem in my lilo.conf: | 14:51 |
| teK_ | # wont work. not with append and not with root=.. | 14:51 |
| teK_ | #image=/boot/3.8.6 label=CRUX-3.8.6-UUID append="root=UUID=3ecd8b8e-1e37-4451-94f3-252b5971351a panic=4" | 14:51 |
| frinnst | doh | 14:51 |
| frinnst | I attempted to install syslinux on the sucker, but that didnt work either.. unable to find device crap | 14:52 |
| frinnst | hm, nope | 14:52 |
| frinnst | vfs: cannot open root <uuidnumber> something | 14:54 |
| frinnst | you never managed to get it to work with lilo? | 14:55 |
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| teK_ | don't think so | 15:19 |
| teK_ | it is supposed to work, though | 15:19 |
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| teK_ | -c | 15:33 |
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| teK_ | frinnst | 15:44 |
| teK_ | 17:19 < teK_> don't think so | 15:44 |
| teK_ | 17:19 < teK_> it is supposed to work, though | 15:44 |
| teK_ | the boot= option works by using the /dev/by-uuid/... path. MAGIC ... | 15:45 |
| frinnst | yeah only if you use an initrd apparantly | 15:45 |
| teK_ | and initrd that does what? | 15:45 |
| teK_ | start udev? | 15:45 |
| frinnst | no clue | 15:45 |
| teK_ | sucks :| | 15:45 |
| frinnst | yeah, inconvenient | 15:45 |
| teK_ | I mean.. it's 2013, right? | 15:45 |
| frinnst | every document i read just assumes you use an initrd | 15:45 |
| teK_ | If I had the time to dig into lilo | 15:46 |
| frinnst | i guess the kernel doesnt do any blkid-scan-thingy at all | 15:46 |
| teK_ | I have to tame a certain python instead | 15:46 |
| frinnst | sounds kinky :) | 15:47 |
| teK_ | thought of that, too. But it isn't. | 15:47 |
| joacim | burp the worm? | 15:47 |
| teK_ | it's a 2.7.4 python | 15:47 |
| horrorStruck | frinnst: you can use UUID without initrd http://www.linux-archive.org/gentoo-user/481167-mounting-root-partition-uuid-no-initrd-needed.html | 15:49 |
| frinnst | ah, gpt | 15:50 |
| frinnst | cheers | 15:51 |
| teK_ | You can ignore the next | 15:51 |
| teK_ | horrifying warning | 15:51 |
| teK_ | haha | 15:51 |
| horrorStruck | cheers, now that's appropriate | 15:52 |
| horrorStruck | working class cheap beer, high % | 15:52 |
| teK_ | sounds nice, thanks horrorStruck | 15:53 |
| teK_ | will give this a try soon.. | 15:53 |
| horrorStruck | IIRC there's an easy way to cnvert mbr to gpt | 15:53 |
| horrorStruck | convert even | 15:53 |
| teK_ | maybe imagemagick's convert can do this too ;> | 15:54 |
| horrorStruck | teK_: DISCLAIMER: I neever tried :) | 15:54 |
| teK_ | it's hell of a tool | 15:54 |
| teK_ | I will :P | 15:54 |
| frinnst | horrorStruck: indeed, time to go pickup a pizza first though :) | 15:55 |
| horrorStruck | http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html | 15:55 |
| horrorStruck | haven't read of course ^ | 15:55 |
| teK_ | yeah frinnst, stay classy | 15:55 |
| horrorStruck | hmmm pizza | 15:56 |
| horrorStruck | i'm doing an experiment, letting my 9 yo playing minecraft until he has enough. 11 pm now, still acceptable somehow. hope mummy will not screw up me doing science. paypal donations site to be announced soon | 15:59 |
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| teK_ | I gave up on that :} | 16:14 |
| teK_ | on the whole take care of the time in front of the computer thing I mean | 16:14 |
| horrorStruck | you wouldnt be using CRUX anyway | 16:15 |
| horrorStruck | missed that -> ;) | 16:15 |
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| frinnst | uuid success \o/ | 20:52 |
| jaeger | yay | 20:55 |
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| hhhhhhhh | hi, i'm just curious how easy package management is in crux | 21:02 |
| hhhhhhhh | current archlinux user but the dev team seems to be driving arch into being completely stupid to use, deprecating things that work and replacing them with things that don't, etc | 21:03 |
| hhhhhhhh | and #archlinux has gone from being the nicest irc channel a few years ago to a circlejerk of worthless people | 21:04 |
| hhhhhhhh | BUT i still like some parts of arch, like the quick/simple package management and up-to-dateness of official repos | 21:04 |
| hhhhhhhh | and i'm curious how crux is in those areas. | 21:04 |
| frinnst | crux is generally very up to date | 21:05 |
| frinnst | it would be easier to answer your questions if you could specify them a bit more | 21:05 |
| hhhhhhhh | on arch i like how you can typically pacman -Syu/y and ignore it for half an hour, and everything is upgraded when you get back | 21:07 |
| hhhhhhhh | but it looks more involved on crux | 21:08 |
| frinnst | I dont know what that command does :) | 21:08 |
| hhhhhhhh | syncs package lists and upgrades everything | 21:08 |
| hhhhhhhh | sorry :p | 21:08 |
| frinnst | "ports -u && prt-get sysup" | 21:08 |
| frinnst | will do that | 21:08 |
| hhhhhhhh | ok cool | 21:09 |
| frinnst | prt-get depinst webkit will download the entire internets and build webkit and its dependencies for you | 21:09 |
| timcowchip | don't do it | 21:09 |
| frinnst | hehe yeah | 21:09 |
| timcowchip | not webkit | 21:09 |
| frinnst | dependencies are evil | 21:09 |
| hhhhhhhh | how about installing things outside the official repos, arch has its user repository which has basically everything ever, and nice cli tools for interfacing with that too | 21:10 |
| hhhhhhhh | crux user repos are treated the same as official repos right? | 21:10 |
| timcowchip | no | 21:10 |
| timcowchip | core, opt and xorg | 21:10 |
| timcowchip | are supported | 21:10 |
| hhhhhhhh | i mean you use the same tools for them | 21:11 |
| timcowchip | yes | 21:11 |
| timcowchip | people in this irc are very helpful with the other user ports | 21:11 |
| timcowchip | and contrib | 21:12 |
| timcowchip | contrib is like community | 21:12 |
| frinnst | the portdb tracks a couple of user-repos | 21:12 |
| frinnst | http://crux.nu/portdb/index.php?q=passwdqc&a=search for example | 21:13 |
| timcowchip | the user ports are like AUR | 21:13 |
| frinnst | there are a nifty util called mpup that you can use to track/sync specific ports from 3rd party repos | 21:14 |
| hhhhhhhh | for stuff that isn't in portdb, how easy is it to set up a package and whatnot so you can uninstall it with standard package tools | 21:14 |
| hhhhhhhh | and are there binary repositories/is it possible to host your own so i don't have to compile everything on a garbage netbook | 21:14 |
| frinnst | take the example url i pasted: "rsync -aqz obra.se::ports/passwdqc/ passwdqc && cd passwdqc && pkgmk -d -i" | 21:14 |
| frinnst | "prt-get remove passwdqc" | 21:15 |
| frinnst | no, nothing binary | 21:15 |
| hhhhhhhh | bah :p | 21:15 |
| frinnst | :) | 21:16 |
| frinnst | well sometimes kind souls posts prebuilt packages for the bigger ones (kde, firefox, whatever) | 21:16 |
| timcowchip | I use ntebook hardware atom d510 | 21:16 |
| timcowchip | netbook | 21:16 |
| frinnst | I run debian on my netbook :) | 21:16 |
| timcowchip | compiling not so bad | 21:16 |
| frinnst | but in general: crux doesnt try to do everything for everybody | 21:17 |
| timcowchip | wheezy just went stable | 21:17 |
| hhhhhhhh | is it feasible to do the compiling on a desktop and have that create binary packages for my netbook | 21:17 |
| frinnst | if we did that, then we would be like arch, fedora, whatever | 21:17 |
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| frinnst | sure, as long as you use compatible cflags between your cpu's | 21:18 |
| hhhhhhhh | ok awesome | 21:18 |
| timcowchip | ccache is your friend prt-get deinst ccache | 21:18 |
| timcowchip | depinst | 21:18 |
| frinnst | the resulting package is just a tarball | 21:18 |
| hhhhhhhh | well | 21:19 |
| hhhhhhhh | ty for answering all that | 21:19 |
| hhhhhhhh | gonna try this on my desktop when i get back to uni :p | 21:20 |
| timcowchip | export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=atom -pipe" in pkgmk.conf for dual core atom | 21:21 |
| frinnst | -march=native | 21:22 |
| timcowchip | ok | 21:23 |
| jaeger | -march="ohgoditssoslowgetoutandpush" | 21:25 |
| frinnst | --omg-optimized | 21:26 |
| timcowchip | should be mush instead of march | 21:26 |
| frinnst | http://funroll-loops.info/ is always awesome | 21:27 |
| timcowchip | what is rice, besides the main ingredient of rice-a-roni? | 21:34 |
| timcowchip | is it some reference to Japanese cars (rice-rockets)? | 21:36 |
| frinnst | yeah | 21:37 |
| timcowchip | ok I get it | 21:38 |
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| nrxtx | hi, will git repositories also be accepted for the portdb or just httpup? | 21:41 |
| timcowchip | in user ports its httpup or rsync | 21:44 |
| timcowchip | afaik | 21:44 |
| timcowchip | http://crux.nu/Wiki/SettingUpAnRsyncRepo | 21:49 |
| timcowchip | http://crux.nu/Wiki/SettingUpAnHttpupRepo | 21:50 |
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| timcowchip | has anyone thought of making a razor-qt repo? | 21:56 |
| timcowchip | similar to the E17 repo? | 21:57 |
| nrxtx | timcowchip: thx for the information, so i have to create a httpup/rsync mirror | 21:59 |
| nrxtx | hm razer-qt isn't that the pure qt desktop environment? | 21:59 |
| timcowchip | yes | 22:00 |
| timcowchip | and yes | 22:00 |
| timcowchip | do you have web space for your ports | 22:00 |
| timcowchip | just .footprint .md5sum and Pkgfile | 22:01 |
| timcowchip | usually just a few Kb's | 22:01 |
| nrxtx | i currently have them on github, but i can mirror them on my webspace | 22:01 |
| joacim | you can use github directly | 22:02 |
| joacim | there are a couple of examples of it in the portdb | 22:02 |
| timcowchip | if I made ports foe razor-qt and its dependencies could it become crux.nu::ports/crux-3.0/razor-qt/? | 22:03 |
| timcowchip | for | 22:03 |
| nrxtx | joacim: ah i see, you also have yours on github :) | 22:03 |
| joacim | yes =) | 22:04 |
| nrxtx | joacim: do you have a way to exclude .git or do you "manually" remove those entries? | 22:08 |
| joacim | i'm filtering it out in .httpup-repgen-ignore | 22:10 |
| nrxtx | joacim: works fine, thx a lot | 22:12 |
| joacim | np =) | 22:14 |
| timcowchip | it would seem that razor-qt source now contains everything necessary to bulid | 22:31 |
| timcowchip | brb | 22:31 |
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| timcowchip | razor-qt: initial commit | 22:50 |
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| timcowchip | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2013-05-10-1612141024x768scrot.php | 23:14 |
| timcowchip | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2013-05-10-1612141024x768scrot.php# | 23:16 |
| timcowchip | anyway it works | 23:16 |
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