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| elderK | drayevarg: :) Did you get a chance to play with my ports? | 00:19 |
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| elderK | The saga of 3.0 on PPCG4 continues >:) | 00:19 |
| elderK | I've got it running, kind of. | 00:20 |
| elderK | Just building linux-3.10. | 00:20 |
| elderK | But I couldn't just update overtop. | 00:20 |
| elderK | I had to install the packages from the tarball manually, but, I wrote a little script to do what I needed. | 00:20 |
| elderK | To recalculate the dependencies and shit. | 00:20 |
| elderK | setup.dependencies file or whatever. | 00:20 |
| elderK | :) | 00:20 |
| drayevarg | sorry, i didn't get a chance to look at them more | 00:28 |
| drayevarg | what do you use virtualgl with? | 00:29 |
| elderK | I was trying to get my dedicated card working on my laptop :P | 00:29 |
| elderK | switchable graphics. | 00:29 |
| elderK | I'm having trouble with FGLRX; | 00:29 |
| elderK | it corrupts the display. | 00:29 |
| elderK | Hasn't been fixed in two versions. | 00:29 |
| elderK | :/ | 00:29 |
| drayevarg | i think DRI_PRIME has preliminary support for radeon now | 00:30 |
| drayevarg | from some chat i saw in #nouveau | 00:30 |
| drayevarg | one sec | 00:30 |
| drayevarg | sorry, i didn't read too closely http://people.freedesktop.org/~cbrill/dri-log//dri-devel-2013-07-27.log but you might have some luck with open source driver | 00:31 |
| elderK | What's DRI prime? | 00:32 |
| elderK | The latest xorg stuff says it has newer support for switchable graphics | 00:32 |
| elderK | but zero informationr egarding how to use it :P | 00:33 |
| elderK | or turn it on, whatever. | 00:33 |
| elderK | :P | 00:33 |
| drayevarg | it's a way to use your dedicated card's power as the source and the integrated card as the sink with xrandr | 00:33 |
| drayevarg | an alternative to bumblebee in the case of intel/nvidia | 00:34 |
| elderK | yeah. | 00:34 |
| drayevarg | unfortunately the card is always powreed on at this point | 00:34 |
| elderK | the idea was to setup a dedicated x server on the radeon and use virtualgl to forward gl stuff to that card. | 00:34 |
| elderK | but I never got it to work | 00:35 |
| elderK | but... | 00:35 |
| elderK | :) kept hte package anyway. | 00:35 |
| elderK | I may get it working later after all :P | 00:35 |
| drayevarg | https://github.com/amonakov/primus/issues/104 | 00:36 |
| elderK | yeah | 00:37 |
| elderK | I've been here. | 00:37 |
| elderK | :/ No luck. | 00:37 |
| drayevarg | i think it will happen really soon, i read that kernel 3.11 adds some nice features for radeon gpus | 00:38 |
| drayevarg | i get some scary acpi warnings with it though | 00:39 |
| drayevarg | as far as using prime with open source driver: | 00:40 |
| drayevarg | try xrandr --listproviders first | 00:41 |
| drayevarg | and something like xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink amd Intel your names might be different | 00:41 |
| drayevarg | you preface the cards you want the discrete card to run with DRI_PRIME=1 .. DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears | 00:42 |
| drayevarg | you need a compositor running to use it, even xcompmgr will work | 00:42 |
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| elderK | sweet | 00:51 |
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| drayevarg | my unhelpful irc client just closed with the message 'parse timeout', i hope i didn't get kicked for blabbing too much | 00:53 |
| elderK | wb :) | 00:55 |
| elderK | and thanks, drayevarg . | 00:55 |
| elderK | Also | 00:55 |
| elderK | :P Remapping isn't working with the g4. | 00:55 |
| elderK | changed us.map.gz | 00:55 |
| elderK | caps -> control | 00:55 |
| elderK | well, keycode 58 = Control | 00:55 |
| elderK | now, | 00:55 |
| elderK | when I press caps lock, | 00:55 |
| elderK | stuff isn't caps. Good. | 00:55 |
| elderK | BUT | 00:55 |
| elderK | It' | 00:55 |
| elderK | s not working as control either | 00:55 |
| elderK | i.e. | 00:55 |
| elderK | caps+c != ^C | 00:55 |
| elderK | :( | 00:55 |
| drayevarg | i somehow have been using crux for 6 odd months without ever having installed a driver for my smbus controller, that seems really bad | 00:58 |
| drayevarg | we have problems ;( | 00:59 |
| elderK | :P | 01:00 |
| elderK | I did that too onc. | 01:00 |
| elderK | never had any issues | 01:01 |
| elderK | I guess it relaly depends. | 01:01 |
| elderK | ;) Excited. | 01:01 |
| elderK | When I reboot, I should be 3.0 on the G4. | 01:01 |
| elderK | :D | 01:01 |
| elderK | fuck | 01:01 |
| elderK | a ton of work so far. | 01:01 |
| elderK | oy. | 01:01 |
| elderK | :) | 01:01 |
| elderK | just waiting for kernel build to finish | 01:02 |
| drayevarg | nice, your xrandr should already have --listproviders then | 01:07 |
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| elderK | FUCK YEAH | 01:18 |
| elderK | 3.0 | 01:18 |
| drayevarg | sweet | 01:21 |
| elderK | :D | 01:21 |
| elderK | ROCCCCCCCCKS | 01:21 |
| elderK | :D | 01:21 |
| elderK | FUCK YEAH! | 01:21 |
| elderK | :) | 01:21 |
| elderK | :):) | 01:21 |
| drayevarg | i feel a sense of dread though for when you have to build something | 01:22 |
| elderK | Yeah. :P Me too. | 01:22 |
| elderK | :P | 01:22 |
| elderK | Like prt-get sysup | 01:22 |
| elderK | :P | 01:22 |
| elderK | which I will do shortly. | 01:22 |
| elderK | :P | 01:22 |
| elderK | problem is that ports -u gives me x86 | 01:22 |
| elderK | and ppc | 01:22 |
| elderK | I figure using x86 pkgfiles will be alright since it's all from source. | 01:23 |
| elderK | I'll do a grep for x86, etc, though | 01:23 |
| elderK | I doubt crux-ppc is in sync. | 01:23 |
| elderK | It is a basically dead project. | 01:23 |
| elderK | :/ | 01:23 |
| drayevarg | their penguin is so cute though ;( | 01:24 |
| elderK | yeah, it is. | 01:24 |
| elderK | :P | 01:24 |
| elderK | maybe I'll make it my wallpaper for fun. | 01:24 |
| elderK | :P | 01:24 |
| elderK | I don't knwo wtf the ``connector'' is for in the kerne | 01:26 |
| elderK | never seems to cause issues when I omit it. | 01:26 |
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| jaeger | the only thing I've used that needed it was uvesafb, which doesn't even work anymore | 02:14 |
| Romster | ennart> anyone else having a problem with setting a non-C locale in a 32-bit program? <- nope as i haven't used that. | 02:29 |
| Romster | elderK, feel free to contact them and maybe pick up where they left off? | 02:35 |
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| cruxbot | [xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: 2.21.12 -> 2.21.13 | 02:51 |
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| angry_vincent | not because of flame reason but considering crux as one of the lasts bastions against poettering-zation | 10:28 |
| angry_vincent | what 's crux policy with newer udev/gnome3/systemd | 10:28 |
| frinnst | "meh" | 10:40 |
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| Romster | systemd is not the unix way. | 11:38 |
| Romster | one tool one job not one tool every job. | 11:38 |
| Romster | lasts bastions against, surely there are others. | 11:38 |
| Romster | and binary log file wtf man | 11:40 |
| Romster | and the fact it's forced on to everyone. and there is more than one init system out there. | 11:44 |
| Romster | systemd kills diversity. | 11:45 |
| z3bra | we're going into lennart's OS... | 11:46 |
| z3bra | one tool, does every. single. thing | 11:47 |
| Romster | we already have firefox that's it's own OS on it's own :D | 11:47 |
| Romster | systemd feels so windows-ish | 11:48 |
| Romster | oen tool does everything, binary.... | 11:48 |
| z3bra | :/ | 11:50 |
| z3bra | systemd is the reason i switched to crux | 11:51 |
| Romster | vista was the reason i switched to crux. | 11:52 |
| Romster | and that xp was restricting anyways | 11:52 |
| Romster | well i did go though a few distros before crux. | 11:53 |
| z3bra | I hope you did ^^ | 11:54 |
| z3bra | Or maybe you *really* like to learn the hard way | 11:55 |
| Romster | i work with windows i compile stuff at home... the hard way you say? | 11:55 |
| Romster | nothing but the hard way :D | 11:55 |
| Romster | i learn more that way. | 11:56 |
| z3bra | switching to crux as a first distro can be *kinda* hard :p | 11:56 |
| z3bra | But I agree, the hard way is the best way | 11:56 |
| Romster | yeah i failed at the start on configuration. | 11:56 |
| Romster | i had help. | 11:56 |
| z3bra | and man :p | 11:56 |
| z3bra | I took me 1 week to get my wifi working | 11:57 |
| Romster | then i started to tinker and break stuff :D | 11:57 |
| z3bra | That the point of linux | 11:57 |
| Romster | then i learned how to fix stuff. | 11:57 |
| z3bra | breaking/unbreaking | 11:57 |
| Romster | then i started making packages and i've never stopped -_- | 11:57 |
| z3bra | haha | 11:57 |
| z3bra | It's quite easy to do on crux | 11:58 |
| Romster | but i like my sexy desktop and servers at home | 11:58 |
| z3bra | I don't have set up an X environment on crux atm | 11:58 |
| z3bra | I'll probably on my main desktop when I'll be used to the distro | 11:58 |
| Romster | i started on kde but then went the whole window manager only route | 11:59 |
| Romster | coffee time | 12:02 |
| z3bra | enjoy | 12:02 |
| frinnst | win2000 -> crux on my desktop | 12:03 |
| frinnst | win2k was wonderful | 12:03 |
| z3bra | I might be too young for that ^^ | 12:04 |
| z3bra | I actually used win98 when I was a child | 12:05 |
| z3bra | using IE and msn :p | 12:05 |
| z3bra | but my first pc was under vista | 12:05 |
| frinnst | geez, thanks for making me feel old :) | 12:06 |
| z3bra | haha | 12:06 |
| frinnst | my first pc that i bought in -98 ran win95 | 12:07 |
| frinnst | but with a muted modem :). still, you could hear the click when someone dialed in | 12:08 |
| z3bra | ^^ | 12:09 |
| z3bra | I miss that sound | 12:09 |
| frinnst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0 | 12:10 |
| z3bra | I can't I'm at work | 12:10 |
| niklaswe | does someone running nginx here and added your own mimetypes? | 12:17 |
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| niklaswe | I trying to add so Pkgfile so it see it as plain text.. but it doesnt work.. | 12:18 |
| Romster | i started with ms-dos, actually no i started on a apple []2 and a commodore 64 and Macintosh plus/classic then ms-dos | 12:33 |
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| Romster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5wmHAUOVy8 the horror | 12:40 |
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| frinnst | amiga <3 | 12:44 |
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| rmull | Huh, I think I fixed my libpthread-stubs issue | 13:42 |
| rmull | I uninstalled libpthread-stubs and tried rebuilding the problem packages - the first one at least seems to have worked | 13:43 |
| rmull | Easy fix, I guess | 13:43 |
| rmull | Didn't occur to me to check that moving from 2.8->3.0 would remove the libpthread-stub port entirely | 13:44 |
| rmull | thanks to those who helped me | 13:44 |
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| frinnst | libpthread-stub can be a pain | 14:28 |
| jaeger | libpthread-stubs still exists as a package, it only has a pkg-config file now | 14:29 |
| Romster | i felt like nuking that package but it caused too many more issues. | 14:32 |
| frinnst | i *think* ive removed it at home | 14:43 |
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| tilman | anyone else having trouble booting the 3.10.3 kernel? | 17:30 |
| doomicide | Nope, I had trouble shutting down, though. Since 3.9.7 | 17:30 |
| doomicide | But 3.10.4 is out, you might want to look at that. | 17:31 |
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| joacim | I havent rebooted yet | 18:22 |
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| teK_ | I have performance issues with it.. | 19:16 |
| teK_ | i.e. windows opening slowly and websites rendering slowly, too | 19:17 |
| teK_ | this is on a thinkpad with i915 graphics | 19:17 |
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| nrxtx | hi | 19:25 |
| frinnst | tilman: i had some issues with it, drm i think | 19:26 |
| frinnst | oh sorry, read that as 3.11 for some reason | 19:26 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: qemu: 1.5.1 -> 1.5.2 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: qemu-all: 1.5.1 -> 1.5.2 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: [notify] wireshark: 1.10.0 -> 1.10.1 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: libssh: 0.5.4 -> 0.5.5 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: nmap: 6.25 -> 6.40 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: sslh: 1.14 -> 1.15 | 21:06 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: vlc: 2.0.7 -> 2.0.8 | 21:06 |
| drayevarg | nice! that reminds me, alsa-lib and alsa-utils had a new version too.. saw that yesterday working on my choppy audio | 21:26 |
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| frinnst | teK_: dont forget about bind, remote dos | 22:28 |
| teK_ | DOH | 22:43 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: bind: 9.9.3-P1 -> 9.9.3-P2 | 22:45 |
| teK_ | thx | 22:45 |
| teK_ | ck4up didnt catch that | 22:45 |
| drayevarg | whoa, i hadn't heard of ck4up, nice... gonna try it out | 22:51 |
| drayevarg | i got a ton of new files in the ruby footprint when i did depinst for it | 22:59 |
| drayevarg | ah it's because i have tcl and tk installed | 23:00 |
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