| xvee | tiny pic doesnt i thik | 00:00 |
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| xvee | think* | 00:00 |
| diverse | I'm asking if you recommend it? | 00:01 |
| diverse | so far it doesn't seem to need accounts | 00:01 |
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| joacim | diverse: you can get the direct link from imageshack without one. have to look at the source code for the page. | 00:04 |
| xvee | tinypage isnt terrible. have very limited use though | 00:06 |
| xvee | i have very limited use with it | 00:07 |
| diverse | joacim: tell me what to enter in the search bar, so I can find the url | 00:13 |
| teK_ | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/11/20/amsterdam-alcoholics-beer/3650471/ | 00:14 |
| joacim | oh. they changed it. cant upload without an account either now | 00:14 |
| joacim | oh well | 00:14 |
| joacim | but imgur works well without. http://i.imgur.com/GENEUaq.gif | 00:15 |
| xvee | teK_: i saw that earlier. its brilliant | 00:15 |
| diverse | xvee: pm | 00:29 |
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| nwe | goood morning! | 07:33 |
| diverse | yo | 07:35 |
| nwe | how are you diverse ? | 07:44 |
| diverse | pretty occupied with testing stuff | 07:47 |
| nwe | ah :/ | 07:49 |
| diverse | well I was, not so much anymore | 07:50 |
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| diverse | nwe: what are you up to? | 07:55 |
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| nwe | diverse: drinking coffee, and reading varnish manual.. | 08:14 |
| Romster | xvee, diverse i accept payal and bitcoin donations :P | 08:28 |
| Romster | kidding | 08:29 |
| Romster | i have had a couple of donations after recovering a few lvm setups that got messed up though. | 08:29 |
| xvee | how bought i buy you some beers | 08:31 |
| diverse | xvee: what are you going to do, send digital beer via ftp? | 08:31 |
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| xvee | i plan on traveling. perhaps one day, i might go australia. i think thats where romster is | 08:33 |
| xvee | though im not quite sure if he'll be down to drink with me lol | 08:33 |
| diverse | he wouldn't be the happy to see you | 08:34 |
| xvee | meh. alcohol is enticing | 08:34 |
| xvee | http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_24966187_gq9vbzrbhs.png | 08:35 |
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| diverse | Romster: so what's going on? | 09:31 |
| diverse | xvee is planning to visit you | 09:31 |
| Romster | cooked dinner ate | 09:32 |
| Romster | i'd wanna try and drink him under the table i can drink lots. | 09:32 |
| diverse | hahahaha | 09:33 |
| diverse | Sounds like you will win the drinking contest | 09:33 |
| diverse | learning to use valgrind was a bitch | 09:36 |
| Romster | when i've drank a whole 700ml bottle of 40% whisky and a slab of beer :D | 09:43 |
| Romster | but that was excessive i had a major hang over the next day | 09:43 |
| nwe | come and buy :) http://www.blocket.se/uppsala/Ymergatan_17_A__Uppsala_50757449.htm?ca=10&w=1 | 09:45 |
| Romster | over head cupboards my head hurts already | 09:50 |
| Romster | used to bang my head on the doors of those. | 09:50 |
| diverse | ... | 10:12 |
| diverse | sounds like you need to lie down for a bit | 10:22 |
| Romster | me? i'm fine | 10:23 |
| diverse | really? Reading what you said made me feel like all of these combined, :( + ;/ + o_o | 10:26 |
| Romster | in the past | 10:26 |
| Romster | not present | 10:26 |
| diverse | btw, when are you going to remove those old linux kernels out of your repo? | 10:41 |
| diverse | unless you are keeping them for nostalgic reasons? | 10:47 |
| nwe | http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idg.se%2F2.1085%2F1.534361%2Fprogrammering-pa-schemat--redan-i-grundskolan&act=url | 11:32 |
| Romster | ugh the mailinglist about systemd | 11:41 |
| Romster | i feel sick now. | 11:41 |
| Romster | i do not wanna see the word systemd ever again. | 11:41 |
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| diverse | Romster: is roelof taking about it? | 11:50 |
| Romster | was on the mailinglist | 11:51 |
| Romster | i just looked at my emails. | 11:51 |
| diverse | I don't get why he is so insistent on using the ML for everything either | 11:52 |
| Romster | you'd think it's a bulletin board the way he uses the ML | 11:53 |
| Romster | well i guess it is that. | 11:53 |
| Romster | guess i just prefer irc | 11:53 |
| prologic | I love Alan's suggestion | 11:53 |
| prologic | go use Arch :) | 11:53 |
| Romster | hah that's an idea | 11:54 |
| diverse | Alan? | 11:54 |
| Romster | it's already packaged there too. | 11:54 |
| prologic | indeed | 11:54 |
| prologic | I mean if writing a bash script | 11:54 |
| prologic | and figured out what the daemon is for a piece of software is too hard | 11:54 |
| prologic | well then geez lious | 11:54 |
| Romster | write a bash script for rc.d/ how fucking hard is that? | 11:54 |
| prologic | apparently it's even harder to find the "daemon" ro actually run | 11:54 |
| diverse | prologic: you mean that arch dev "Allan"? | 11:55 |
| prologic | if you want to use software xyz | 11:55 |
| Romster | i'm no pro and i manage. | 11:55 |
| prologic | wouldn't you figure that stuff out? | 11:55 |
| Romster | diverse, no we have an alan but he rarely if ever joins irc. | 11:55 |
| Romster | alan also maintains kde | 11:55 |
| prologic | wow that's a big task :) | 11:56 |
| prologic | as bad as Gnome I guess | 11:56 |
| prologic | when I saw the emails about XFCE notw working | 11:56 |
| diverse | you should see Cinnamon... | 11:56 |
| prologic | I kinda felt like repiny but didn't | 11:56 |
| prologic | :) | 11:56 |
| Romster | not really kde is less ports and not nearly as hard. | 11:56 |
| Romster | like kde games kde utilites not a million ports just get everything to work. | 11:57 |
| Romster | kdelibs | 11:57 |
| prologic | still bigger job than XFCE :) | 11:57 |
| Romster | not like 60 gnome libs | 11:57 |
| Romster | yeah probably. | 11:57 |
| Romster | i started on kde before moving to finally pekwm | 11:57 |
| Romster | i wanted less bloat and yet here i am with wine clementine and xine | 11:58 |
| Romster | among others. | 11:58 |
| Romster | which in itself is alot of deps. | 11:58 |
| Romster | Mhash/s 70.641 | 11:59 |
| Romster | 2.36uBTC/hr | 11:59 |
| Romster | pretty crappy isn't it. | 11:59 |
| Romster | made 0.00003963 BTC so far | 12:00 |
| Romster | but i only ran it when i'm home. | 12:00 |
| prologic | that's not bad :) | 12:00 |
| Romster | makes me wanna build my next pc with serious 700 series gtx cards and water cooling. | 12:00 |
| prologic | so when BTC are worth $1M ea | 12:01 |
| prologic | you'll have $38 :) | 12:01 |
| Romster | lol | 12:01 |
| Romster | great | 12:01 |
| prologic | they hit $1000 the other day | 12:01 |
| prologic | :) | 12:01 |
| Romster | seriosuly | 12:01 |
| prologic | sure did | 12:01 |
| diverse | ehh, don't go with 700 series, they just drain more power for little gain, go with 600 | 12:01 |
| Romster | i so wanna have my own pool here and do it that way | 12:01 |
| Romster | i haven't looked at the specs on cpu power vs power consumed yet | 12:02 |
| Romster | id of gone with ati but hell.... nothing but issues. i did try a card from work i took it back to work disapointed | 12:03 |
| Romster | no driver supported it they always lag behind. | 12:03 |
| Romster | as prologic also found out. | 12:03 |
| diverse | if you use FreeBSD you have no choice but to use nvidia | 12:04 |
| Romster | i kninda want to fire up arch in virtualbox to see what the fuss is over Cinnamon | 12:05 |
| Romster | but then effort | 12:05 |
| diverse | eww... arch | 12:05 |
| Romster | to see that desktop << | 12:05 |
| Romster | i'm not porting the sucker. | 12:06 |
| diverse | or why not try Linux Mint, and do it the lazy way | 12:06 |
| Romster | maybe | 12:07 |
| Romster | but i'll always use crux. | 12:07 |
| diverse | I mean in vbox! | 12:07 |
| Romster | sure it's effort but kiss | 12:07 |
| nogagplz | arch is still kiss... | 12:07 |
| Romster | hehe i know what you meant. | 12:07 |
| diverse | nogagplz: kiss, my ass. | 12:07 |
| Romster | omg nogagplz talks you been quiet lately. | 12:07 |
| Romster | kiss if oyu don't mind bloat. | 12:08 |
| nogagplz | yeah I've been run into the ground | 12:08 |
| diverse | kiss if you don't mind systemd fucking you over | 12:08 |
| Romster | work? or grandma? | 12:08 |
| nogagplz | grandmother | 12:09 |
| Romster | she must be getting worse :/ | 12:09 |
| nogagplz | you're not forced to use systemd, use runit or sysvinit or w/e the pkgbuilds are available | 12:09 |
| nogagplz | yeah more bitchy, less energy, driving me mad | 12:09 |
| Romster | put up with it she wont last much longer. | 12:10 |
| Romster | all you can do is give her some quality of life. | 12:10 |
| nogagplz | it's a tricky thing to explain, but the short version is she's a poisonous monster | 12:11 |
| Romster | turned into a bitch? | 12:11 |
| nogagplz | I'm here so she's not forced into one of those shitty palliative care hospitals | 12:11 |
| Romster | you can't care for her 24/7? | 12:11 |
| nogagplz | nah always has been, and even now as she is she just milks it to be moreso :P | 12:11 |
| Romster | so you get a nurse to help? | 12:14 |
| nogagplz | no I do it all myself | 12:14 |
| diverse | the mood here is sure pessimistic | 12:16 |
| Romster | surely you'd be tired too much on your own. | 12:17 |
| Romster | doubt you don't bath her too. | 12:17 |
| nogagplz | do you want to hear all the traumatising details | 12:17 |
| diverse | alright time to /ignore nogagplz | 12:17 |
| Romster | diverse, why nogagplz is not a bad guy. | 12:18 |
| Romster | quite miss nogagplz stuff in here it's not the same without. | 12:18 |
| Romster | i don't mind if you need someone to talk to nogagplz | 12:19 |
| diverse | I'm only ignoring him, so he can go on with the traumatising details, without bothering me. | 12:19 |
| nogagplz | it's cool, just an incredibly demanding tiresome painful experience | 12:20 |
| nogagplz | 24/7 on standby for her, she fell asleep early tonight so time to look at porn etc | 12:20 |
| Romster | http://kotaku.com/japans-space-buses-are-out-of-this-world-1468833076 | 12:22 |
| Romster | ah time to procrastinate | 12:22 |
| nogagplz | too bad gravity can't be turned off in those things | 12:23 |
| Romster | yeah hehe | 12:24 |
| diverse | alright removed ignore | 12:25 |
| Romster | you missed nothing. | 12:25 |
| diverse | didn't seem like it lasted | 12:26 |
| Romster | can we add a roelof filter to ML | 12:27 |
| diverse | hahahahaha | 12:27 |
| diverse | yeah we need to drag his ass back here and tie him here | 12:27 |
| Romster | i so could get images of that | 12:28 |
| Romster | was i anywhere this bad when i started with crux O_O | 12:28 |
| diverse | memory lane? | 12:29 |
| nogagplz | didn't you move from core linux to crux | 12:29 |
| nogagplz | I doubt you were that bad | 12:29 |
| diverse | I don't think you were as bad either | 12:30 |
| diverse | You said you learned as you progress | 12:30 |
| diverse | where as roelof need to hammer that information in at least 5 times | 12:30 |
| diverse | slow, but he eventually gets there | 12:31 |
| Romster | i was bad but not that bad diverse | 12:32 |
| Romster | probably more so with my crazy ideas on how things should be. | 12:32 |
| Romster | yeah i was messing with core linux | 12:33 |
| diverse | Romster: I didn't say you were that bad at all. | 12:33 |
| Romster | and debian. | 12:33 |
| Romster | no i was just thinking when i was new to crux. | 12:33 |
| Romster | i got stuck on some stuff that prologic helped me on. | 12:33 |
| Romster | after that i just took off on my own. | 12:33 |
| Romster | this whole systemd bull crap that red hat is forcing down our throats though... this is bs | 12:34 |
| diverse | they are also pulling the same crap with gtk3 and gnome | 12:35 |
| Romster | what is wrong with gtk3? | 12:35 |
| Romster | i really have not been following. | 12:35 |
| diverse | ever stable release its api keeps changing and either gets broken again | 12:36 |
| diverse | s/either/everything | 12:36 |
| diverse | they do it on purpose to discourage third party theme developers for making themes for gtk3 | 12:37 |
| Romster | isn't the whole idea of the alpha stage is to iron out the API calls. and then put a freeze on the existing calls and only possibly add new calls if need be | 12:37 |
| Romster | are you certain of that? | 12:37 |
| Romster | for all i know you got your information from some other rumor. | 12:37 |
| diverse | Romster: read all of this: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ | 12:41 |
| Romster | and if they are how the hell are we meant to get more users into linux when stream is even giving linux a try for games. | 12:42 |
| Romster | if i was rich i would make a stable gtk system with a ton of programmers. | 12:47 |
| Romster | what sort of dickwads are we dealing with here. | 12:48 |
| diverse | so its not just theme developers that are complaining, other gtk users also hate gtk3 for what they are doing to it. | 12:50 |
| diverse | all for "brand presense" and to keep "consistent visual appearance" | 12:51 |
| diverse | no freedom in customizing what so ever, its the gnome way! | 12:51 |
| Romster | someone should jsut fork gtk and tell anyone else to fu. | 12:52 |
| diverse | I'm hoping that Linux Mint guys would do that | 12:52 |
| diverse | otherwise I am towarding forward with qt4 and 5 | 12:53 |
| Romster | i'm sticking to my pekwm no bs just works. | 12:53 |
| Romster | but then all my gui apps are all mismatched etc. | 12:53 |
| Romster | ugly desktop but it works | 12:53 |
| diverse | you are going to have to live with that, some are already migrating from gtk to qt such as wireshark and lxde | 12:54 |
| Romster | qt is much a hog to compile | 12:54 |
| diverse | just the lib itself? | 12:55 |
| Romster | yeah | 12:55 |
| Romster | it's as bad as cimpiling webkit | 12:55 |
| Romster | compiling* | 12:56 |
| Romster | for time | 12:56 |
| Romster | unlike gtk | 12:56 |
| Romster | C++ for qt | 12:56 |
| Romster | maybe there are C bindings for qt but i never looked. | 12:56 |
| Romster | what we really need is a common abstraction api | 12:57 |
| Romster | so any backend toolkit be it qt gtk or something else can translate to there calls. | 12:57 |
| Romster | hell a modular graphical tool kit would be better. | 12:58 |
| Romster | the whole qt and gtk stuff is one huge bloated mess. much like xfree was before it became modular xorg. | 12:59 |
| Romster | what ever backend system i t uses there should be one theme engine interface. | 13:00 |
| Romster | then with the theme engines they can do the heck they please on there own engine for themes. | 13:00 |
| Romster | don't like it use another theme engine. | 13:01 |
| Romster | if you ask me linux goes 2 steps forwared 1 step back. | 13:01 |
| diverse | well in the meantime, there is nothing wrong with gtk2, its perfectly functional. | 13:02 |
| Romster | so really i should drop all gtk3 stuff? | 13:03 |
| diverse | That depends on you. | 13:03 |
| diverse | Well if the app only has a gtk3 interface, then keep it, otherwise migrate them back gtk2 if you can | 13:04 |
| diverse | and heck roelof still needs gtk3 (sadly) for Cinnamon | 13:07 |
| Romster | http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-some-older-amd-processors-do-not-support-windows-81 | 13:09 |
| Romster | i'm honestly sick of the direction of which projects go in. | 13:09 |
| Romster | they get good they say they are improving on it then later versions they screw everyone over. | 13:10 |
| Romster | and force us to fork it. | 13:10 |
| Romster | some days i wish computers did not exist. | 13:11 |
| Romster | what is the go with that anyways | 13:12 |
| Romster | suposed to be better | 13:12 |
| Romster | for layering the rendering to the GPU | 13:12 |
| Romster | feels these big corporations are commercializing Linux. Lnux is meant as a hobby OS | 13:13 |
| diverse | yeah the compositor is much better and gets rid of the ancient crap from xlib that nobody uses, but there is a problem. | 13:13 |
| joacim | I've been thinking about picking up new hobbies actually | 13:16 |
| joacim | draw cute girls and read books | 13:17 |
| Romster | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/11/20/1958213/winamp-shutting-down-on-december-20 | 13:21 |
| Romster | winamp going to die O_O | 13:21 |
| Romster | what is the world coming too. | 13:22 |
| diverse | no Romster, don't look at anymore bad news! | 13:22 |
| nogagplz | bad news? winamp was a pile of shit | 13:22 |
| nogagplz | good riddance | 13:22 |
| Romster | gesus fuck i feel like poutng ranting badly. | 13:22 |
| Romster | used to be good years ago | 13:22 |
| joacim | I remember using 2.x | 13:22 |
| joacim | that must've been ten years ago | 13:22 |
| Romster | before AOL screwed i tover | 13:22 |
| nogagplz | yeah but not any time recently | 13:22 |
| Romster | about then | 13:22 |
| joacim | I guess everyone on windows uses foobar now | 13:24 |
| diverse | if I had to use windows, I definitely pick foobar2000 | 13:25 |
| diverse | and the reason why I like deadbeef | 13:25 |
| joacim | never quite liked foobar, but i dont know what i'd use on windows tho | 13:25 |
| joacim | itunes is ok on os x, but it is too big. built like a multiplatform application and it has too many features | 13:26 |
| diverse | well there is itunes for windows, since I am pretty sure you use that on your mac | 13:26 |
| joacim | all i want is a plain and simple library style music player | 13:27 |
| Romster | mpd | 13:27 |
| joacim | having to run it as a service is silly to me | 13:27 |
| joacim | tho i have used it for years | 13:27 |
| Romster | but i'm using clemantine now. | 13:27 |
| diverse | remember that article xvee pasted about nsa asking Linus to put backdoors into Linux, very hilarious right? | 13:39 |
| diverse | the idea itself is totally stupid, how can they even ask that? | 13:41 |
| joacim | cant they just download some script from the internet like every other kid on the block | 13:42 |
| diverse | hahaha | 13:43 |
| diverse | This is romsters beard, the guy on the left: http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Blog/image.axd?picture=%2F2013%2F04%2FUnix+beard+and+Linux+beard.jpg | 13:51 |
| diverse | Romster: it's time you trim that thing, dang. | 13:53 |
| Romster | http://obra.se/Romster_tabletennis.jpg that is /me/ | 13:55 |
| Romster | that was out of a paper scan | 13:56 |
| Romster | so everyone in this town would of seen it. | 13:56 |
| Amnesia | Romster: just a matter of time and you're also a greybeard ^.^ | 13:56 |
| diverse | Romster: that's a real picture of you? | 13:57 |
| Romster | yes a real picture of me diverse | 13:57 |
| Romster | Amnesia, i already have a few gray hairs now. | 13:58 |
| Amnesia | Romster: a UNIX greybeard ofc:) | 13:58 |
| Romster | hahaha | 13:58 |
| diverse | well frinnst, look at the Romster beard! | 13:58 |
| Romster | he's seen it it's his site. he stuck my pic on. | 13:59 |
| Romster | after i pasted the url here off my server. | 13:59 |
| Romster | ball is blurry because i put /that/ much spin on it. | 14:00 |
| Romster | i'm finally nuking some ports in my romster tree. | 14:05 |
| diverse | please be the kernels, please be the kernels!! | 14:05 |
| Romster | why does it worry you << | 14:09 |
| diverse | it shouldn't | 14:12 |
| diverse | they look like the easiest things to remove and you keep them for some unknown reason. | 14:15 |
| diverse | Sigh, don't mind me. | 14:16 |
| Romster | yeah i removed one. | 14:18 |
| Romster | but i'm also going over other stuff | 14:18 |
| diverse | Would anyone like to see my desktop screenshot? | 14:19 |
| Romster | sure why not. | 14:19 |
| joacim | i'll look at yours if you look at mine | 14:19 |
| diverse | joacim: is that a threat? :) | 14:19 |
| Romster | lol | 14:19 |
| diverse | I use dual monitors, so the image will be big, although I guess because its big, imgur reduced the quality of it | 14:20 |
| joacim | is it because of the pixels? if it is just the filesize, optipng or pngcrush can help | 14:22 |
| diverse | http://i.imgur.com/fHY0rVo.jpg | 14:22 |
| diverse | nothing special | 14:22 |
| jaeger | I've been running mint 13 on an extra machine here at work as a test... Not sure if it's the machine's fault or something mint-related but it's painfully slow to wake up when the display has turned off | 14:24 |
| jaeger | The hardware is nothing spectacular but still, seems a bit ridiculous | 14:24 |
| diverse | joacim: i think pixel | 14:24 |
| joacim | what is that panel? | 14:25 |
| diverse | Enlightenment (e18) shelf | 14:25 |
| diverse | not a standalone panel | 14:26 |
| joacim | is that game any good? been wanting to play the Ys series from the same developer | 14:26 |
| diverse | The whole Legend of Heroes series is awesome. | 14:27 |
| diverse | Start playing from Sora no Kiseki FC (Trails in the Sky) | 14:28 |
| joacim | http://cl.ly/SVj0 <- i miss my old 2D dock. | 14:28 |
| diverse | Xseed is going to release Trails in the Sky SC (Second Chapter) in English in steam and psp | 14:30 |
| diverse | I think earlier next year | 14:30 |
| joacim | physical copy for psp? | 14:30 |
| diverse | no, only digital release for psp, because the game is very niche in US and Xseed can't afford to lose money on production costs. | 14:31 |
| joacim | might as well just get it on steam then | 14:32 |
| diverse | which is why I mentioned steam to you | 14:32 |
| joacim | i like to collect games, and downloadable games are collectable to me. | 14:32 |
| Romster | http://crux.ster.so/ports/romster/ down to 388 ports i'll do more cleaning later | 14:33 |
| joacim | i feel i might as well pirate it. easier to backup and replay pirated games too ;) | 14:33 |
| jaeger | They all bow before Xenoblade Chronicles! :) | 14:33 |
| diverse | hey be sure to support Xseed! | 14:33 |
| joacim | I will. by buying their physical copies ;) | 14:34 |
| diverse | I'm serious, they are a small company | 14:36 |
| joacim | they are. but i'm still only interested in physical copies. | 14:37 |
| joacim | i only buy from steam when stuff there is on sale | 14:37 |
| joacim | or i stumble upon one of those shitty pc games that install through steam | 14:38 |
| diverse | They fact that they went out their way to translate 3.5 million Japanese characters into English for SC is worth noting. | 14:38 |
| joacim | it is worth something to those who don't mind buying downloadable copies | 14:40 |
| syncn | i just fell for that post on HN about high frequency dating. tisk tisk | 14:41 |
| diverse | Well you can buy the physical copy of FC for psp to get you started | 14:41 |
| diverse | (its not out in steam yet) | 14:42 |
| joacim | that'll be for when i have a psp. looking around for a cheap one. | 14:42 |
| diverse | that shouldn't be hard to find, since vita is Sony's currently beloved handheld system, and psp is dying anyway. | 14:44 |
| joacim | gamestop bloats their prices a little, and the ones people sell themselves are kinda too expensive too | 14:46 |
| joacim | people bundle all kinds of crap with them and increases the price | 14:46 |
| joacim | lots of umd movies | 14:46 |
| diverse | joacim: btw, just to keep in mind, you don't mind games that are heavily story driven? | 14:50 |
| joacim | i dont mind them | 14:51 |
| joacim | used to play some of these japanese console rpgs in the past. | 14:55 |
| joacim | Grandia was quite fun | 14:55 |
| joacim | now i mostly play strategy games and creative types tho. some arcade games. | 14:57 |
| diverse | Then will like the Legend of Heroes Kiseki series. The battle AT system is designed for strategic play. | 14:59 |
| joacim | grand strategy? | 15:00 |
| diverse | I haven't played Grandia, so I don't know. | 15:01 |
| joacim | currently playing crusader kings 2. marrying off my kids just to gain some more counties and duchies is quite fun | 15:01 |
| diverse | I was trying to take some screenshots of SC, but e18 crashed, sigh. | 15:02 |
| diverse | Romster: how is the port cleaning coming? | 15:04 |
| Romster | done a bit leaving todo more another night. | 15:05 |
| diverse | What's the port count? | 15:05 |
| Romster | i said earlier 388 | 15:06 |
| diverse | Well that's impressive. You had about 403 iirc, so a difference of 15 ports or so? | 15:07 |
| Romster | yeah | 15:07 |
| Romster | its' a start | 15:07 |
| diverse | it's a great start | 15:08 |
| diverse | I'll do a ports -u eventually and do a sysup, since I need upgrade to alpha2. | 15:13 |
| diverse | joacim: can you order from amazon.com? | 15:19 |
| joacim | yes | 15:19 |
| joacim | depends on the seller really | 15:19 |
| joacim | but in general, i can | 15:19 |
| joacim | not everyone wants to ship outside of their country, or outside of the eu in europe | 15:20 |
| diverse | I was going to suggest to take advantage of amazon's black friday deals to find a good deal on a psp... | 15:21 |
| joacim | will the charger work on the european power grids? | 15:22 |
| diverse | I can't answer that unfortunately. | 15:23 |
| diverse | joacim: were you able to order directly from amazon or does it have to be third party sellers? | 15:24 |
| joacim | sometimes directly, sometimes third party sellers | 15:25 |
| joacim | it depends on what i'm buying | 15:25 |
| diverse | :( | 15:26 |
| joacim | sometimes i havent been able to get it from anyone selling through .co.uk, so i've had to use .fr | 15:26 |
| joacim | you cant really tell if they will post to norway until after you've put the item in your basket | 15:26 |
| joacim | and you can't tell which item is the problem when amazon says it cant calculate shipping costs | 15:27 |
| joacim | so i have to add stuff one by one, and check each time i add something | 15:27 |
| joacim | it is easier to buy from ebay really. i can see it right there on the page how much shipping will cost me | 15:28 |
| joacim | and who will ship to norway | 15:28 |
| joacim | it is a bit more laid back on ebay too. i can just ask the seller if they're willing to ship to norway | 15:29 |
| diverse | looks like my suggestion won't work. | 15:29 |
| joacim | it is a bit of a pain. psps are easy enough to find here in norway. i just have to look around some more | 15:32 |
| joacim | the tricky part is finding neogeo pocket colours and dreamcasts | 15:32 |
| joacim | i'll have to import those | 15:32 |
| diverse | you must be an avid console collector? | 15:33 |
| joacim | i dont know | 15:35 |
| joacim | i dont have that many. i just buy what i can find | 15:35 |
| diverse | for those you can't find, you always have emulators ;) | 15:38 |
| diverse | Romster: I think that's one thing you like most about computers, right? | 15:42 |
| joacim | i'm not really interested in emulators anymore | 15:42 |
| Romster | emulators? | 15:42 |
| joacim | i'd play NES and SNES games in an emulator, but mostly due to how overpriced those systems are here | 15:42 |
| Romster | i used to be big diverse | 15:43 |
| Romster | we have a remulator repo | 15:43 |
| Romster | emulator* | 15:43 |
| joacim | the PAL ports for those systems are the shittiest ones too | 15:43 |
| diverse | :/ | 15:44 |
| joacim | would have to import them from america, and that could be even more expensive due to shipping and taxes | 15:44 |
| Romster | go back to nestickle then. | 15:44 |
| Romster | :D | 15:44 |
| Romster | nesticle | 15:45 |
| Romster | remember that nes emulator | 15:45 |
| joacim | I used that in the past =) | 15:45 |
| Romster | me too | 15:45 |
| diverse | brings back good memories doesn't? | 15:46 |
| diverse | *doesn't it | 15:46 |
| Romster | sure does. | 15:47 |
| Romster | nostelga | 15:47 |
| diverse | nostalgia | 15:47 |
| diverse | I know, English is weird. | 15:47 |
| Romster | i like to spell phonetically | 15:48 |
| diverse | like "thru" instead of "through"? | 15:48 |
| Romster | i know english is a crazy too dumb rules language but it's the only one i know. | 15:48 |
| Romster | ya | 15:48 |
| diverse | and "nuff" for "enough" | 15:49 |
| Romster | 02:49:41 up 4 days, 2:11, 1 user, load average: 20.08, 16.12, 12.14 | 15:49 |
| Romster | lol | 15:49 |
| joacim | i just say what my dictionary says is ok for me to say | 15:50 |
| Romster | that does not include grammar though joacim | 15:50 |
| Romster | could use the wrong word in the wrong context. | 15:50 |
| joacim | i know | 15:50 |
| diverse | joacim: Don't worry, English is stupid in every way. | 15:50 |
| joacim | i can just say it is american english or something | 15:51 |
| Romster | i bet i make many many mistakes. | 15:51 |
| joacim | and that'll make it ok for some reason | 15:51 |
| Romster | if i get the point across that's good enough. | 15:51 |
| joacim | norwegian is pretty stupid too. the written language is based on danish, so what you write is somewhat different from what you would say | 15:52 |
| diverse | that's how it usually is, you can have the crappiest grammer but your point will still come across | 15:52 |
| Romster | but i do try to use the correct words. | 15:53 |
| Romster | bed time g'night | 15:58 |
| diverse | have a good one | 15:58 |
| joacim | people used to correct me for saying spelt instead of spelled | 16:00 |
| joacim | back when it was cool to correct poor grammar. | 16:00 |
| diverse | joacim: actually that's very logical guess. Actually, I think a lot of words in English should have "t" for past tense for consistency. For example, how would you know the difference between present tense "read" and past tense "read"? Like have it be "reat" instead. Or instead of "sounded" which sounds retarded, I think "sount" would be better. | 16:05 |
| diverse | replace the Ds with Ts | 16:07 |
| diverse | and for the words that don't end in D, yeah, suffix with "ed" | 16:11 |
| diverse | but that's being revolutionary | 16:12 |
| joacim | you get a lot of exceptions and shit like that when you're speaking a language that evolved over thousands of years =) | 16:13 |
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| diverse | English evolved over a 1000 years as a Germanic language, since I think it was the "west germanics" who went and invaded what was England and then invaded other European countries, such as the Dutch, Greek, French, etc, and allowed those country's words to mix in with English, which pretty much made it a bastardized language over the period of time. | 16:19 |
| joacim | blame it on the french? | 16:20 |
| diverse | There is no one to blame. Languages have a powerful influence on other languages. | 16:24 |
| diverse | Even now English still borrows words, for example it even borrowed the Japanese word tsunami for "tidal wave" and that became the norm | 16:25 |
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| joacim | should borrow shitnami from canadian | 16:27 |
| diverse | hahahaha | 16:28 |
| diverse | really? They say that? | 16:28 |
| joacim | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuoAdirVFW4 | 16:30 |
| diverse | I can't open that in a browser atm, I'm in tty land | 16:30 |
| joacim | it is from a canadian tv show | 16:31 |
| diverse | oh, maybe its pun from that show, just to be funny :P | 16:31 |
| diverse | *it's a | 16:32 |
| joacim | it is. | 16:32 |
| joacim | http://www.johndunsworth.com/dicshitnary/ | 16:33 |
| diverse | hahahaha | 16:33 |
| diverse | it must be shitja vu! | 16:34 |
| diverse | joacim: get it? | 16:35 |
| joacim | yeah i get it =) | 16:42 |
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| jaeger | gah... I've got a user whose machine runs like crap because said user not only runs everything at once (eclipse, matlab, afni, libreoffice, chromium, skype, gtalk plugin, etc.) but also messes with EVERYTHING | 16:50 |
| jaeger | I can't tell said user to stop doing all that, instead I have to keep trying to "fix" it | 16:50 |
| diverse | what's preventing you from have a verbal discussion with the user about his operating habits? | 16:53 |
| joacim | i just get some more ram, so i dont have to quit stuff, ever. | 16:54 |
| jaeger | politics. I cannot tell these users what to do because they and their boss are more important than I am | 16:55 |
| diverse | oh is these the guys that refuse to use the super badass computers that have linux on them, and resort to using their laptops for work? | 16:55 |
| jaeger | I've already had several conversations with said user about them but I have to be very careful NEVER to word my comments like they are in the wrong | 16:55 |
| jaeger | This user does use the badass workstation but even it can't handle the shit thrown at it | 16:56 |
| diverse | how much ram does it have? | 16:56 |
| jaeger | chromium + gtalk plugin + skype = insane memory leak and shitty compositing performance | 16:56 |
| jaeger | this particular one 'only' has 9GB | 16:56 |
| diverse | :/ | 16:57 |
| jaeger | Which is odd since most of them have 12 or more. I don't set up the desktop hardware, though, our windows guy pretty much views that as "his thing" and gets mad when others do it | 17:00 |
| jaeger | heh, firefox, thunderbird, and all that other stuff I mentioned are all running on the machine right now | 17:02 |
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| teK_ | as a vlc maintainer, I have to say.. http://img.pr0gramm.com/2013/11/0568-f077.jpg | 17:39 |
| pitillo | xD | 17:40 |
| jaeger | heh | 17:49 |
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| elderK | Guys, how come my (pre|post)-install scripts aren't running when I prt-get? | 19:24 |
| elderK | Do I always have to specify --install-scripts ? | 19:24 |
| elderK | Also, when I prt-get remove .... | 19:24 |
| elderK | the (pre|post)-remove scripts aren't running. | 19:25 |
| elderK | Any ideas? | 19:25 |
| jaeger | check your /etc/prt-get.conf | 19:26 |
| pitillo | elderK: check prt-get.conf and look for runscripts... only for build time | 19:26 |
| elderK | okay. | 19:32 |
| elderK | Will that run the removal scripts? | 19:32 |
| elderK | also, prt-get --install-scripts depinst .... | 19:33 |
| elderK | executed via sudo doesn't work :P | 19:33 |
| elderK | the scripts are run in the context of root? | 19:33 |
| elderK | That seems sane. | 19:33 |
| pitillo | elderK: I think there aren't removal scripts, only pre/post install | 19:36 |
| elderK | Hm. | 19:36 |
| elderK | Well. | 19:36 |
| elderK | I create a user for the database engine to run as. | 19:36 |
| pitillo | probably you can do something with alternative commands, when using pkgrm | 19:36 |
| elderK | in my post-install | 19:36 |
| elderK | on removal, I want to remove that user and the associated group. | 19:37 |
| elderK | (firebird, firebird) | 19:37 |
| elderK | but now that I think about it, | 19:37 |
| elderK | It's possible files will be created by that user... | 19:37 |
| elderK | that weren't there on install. | 19:37 |
| elderK | so it doesn't make sense to remove it anyway :) | 19:37 |
| elderK | People removing the package will just have to prune, I guess. | 19:37 |
| pitillo | at least no automagically | 19:37 |
| elderK | Aye. | 19:38 |
| elderK | I'll just make a note in teh Pkgfile. | 19:38 |
| elderK | :) | 19:38 |
| pitillo | a README file in a port can give info about it :) | 19:38 |
| elderK | :) Cool | 19:44 |
| elderK | Thanks pitillo | 19:44 |
| pitillo | you are welcome :) | 19:45 |
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| teK_ | haha https://gist.github.com/rspeer/7559750 | 21:06 |
| jaeger | smooth | 21:15 |
| teK_ | related: | 21:16 |
| jaeger | :) | 21:16 |
| rmull | Really? What happens to python? | 22:09 |
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