IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2013-12-14

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Romsterfrinnst, i got nearly all the distfiles here too
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blentThat was a bad idea01:07
Romsterwhat was?01:07
blentSetting a source dir01:08
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: harfbuzz-icu: 0.9.23 -> 0.9.2501:08
Romsteris what i use no problems.01:14
blentYeah, but have fun trying to sort the source tarballs01:14
Romsterlet me know if any package uses the same source file as another.01:15
Romsterwhy would you bother sorting them?01:15
Romsterand i have with a small script01:15
blentHow else would you find relevant files?01:15
Romsterthat sorts them into directories at the core opt contrib xorg repo level.01:16
Romsterblent, edit to your needs
Romsteri'm working on a version sort for files. and i jsut registered a domain for it yesterday i got lots of work ahead of me yet.01:32
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: gnutls-32: 3.2.6 -> 3.2.701:43
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: harfbuzz-32: 0.9.23 -> 0.9.2501:43
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: sqlite3-32: 3.8.1 -> 3.8.201:43
blentcase ${PKGMK_ARCH} in01:50
blentWhere is this set?01:50
Romsterin /usr/bin/pkgmk01:54
Romsterwhen there is a .32bit file in the ports directory.01:54
Romsterif you update pkgutils and rejmerge and merge in the changes it'll probably answer your question on pkgmk.conf01:55
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-server: 1.14.4 -> 1.14.506:05
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.206:05
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cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: coreutils: updated to 8.2209:31
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blentCurrently in the middle of building all of core, opt, and contrib16:24
blentOh, need to do xorg, too16:24
blentOne sec16:24
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BurnZeZThere we go16:24
jaegerwhy the rebuild?16:33
BurnZeZI don't have the original packages and need to install to chrooted disk16:34
BurnZeZIt's nice having the source on hand, too16:35
jaegerno internet access to get the packages?16:35
BurnZeZYeah, but if I'm gonna download the packages, might as well download the source16:35
jaegerIf you have the time, sure. :)16:35
BurnZeZI've got a 2600k@4.8GHz, so compiling isn't a problem16:35
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ROKO__configure: error: Could not find mozjs185 or mozjs-17.0; see
ROKO__=======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/polkit/polkit#0.112-1.pkg.tar.xz' failed.16:40
ROKO__prt-get: error while install16:40
frinnstjoy, rhel7 runs systemd16:52
jaegeryeah, forked from f1916:53
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jaegerROKO__: did you install polkit's dependencies?16:54
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ROKO__jaeger: what17:46
ROKO__i just run prt-get depinst kde4-meta-full17:47
ROKO__i think they must be inside meta package17:47
jaegerdid spidermonkey get installed?17:47
ROKO__# prt-get search -vv spidermonkey17:47
ROKO__spidermonkey 1.8.5-2: Javascript engine library17:47
jaegersend an email to the maintainer, then17:48
ROKO__what ?!?!17:48
ROKO__so you how install this ?17:48
ROKO__how to continue kde installation ?!17:48
jaegersend an email to the package maintainer and get him to check what's wrong with it17:48
jaegerspidermonkey should be providing mozjs17:49
ROKO__i know and it provided17:50
ROKO__tell me how to continue build kde17:50
jaegerI don;t use KDE, ask the maintainer17:50
jaegerhis email address is in the KDE Pkgfiles17:50
ROKO__polkit is part of any system without care what DE use17:51
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ROKO__all libs allready present your polkit package is broken17:57
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tilmanRotwang: would you like to add the xft patch to contrib/dmenu? :)18:55
Rotwangtilman: what does this patch do?18:56
tilmanlets you use xft fonts18:57
Rotwangindeed, good idea19:00
doomicideRotwang/tilman: Don't you guys think that stuff should be kept vanilla? I mean it's easy enough to patch it yourself. That's how I do it with all the suckless stuff.19:02
tilmani sure as crap don't want to maintain my own port of dmenu19:02
doomicideIt's 5 minutes of work everytime a new version gets released, which doesn't happen all too often.19:05
tilmani'm pretty sure i know how much work it is and how difficult it is to keep up19:05
Rotwangdoomicide: in the end you wouldn't like to end up with half of ports you use being maintained by you19:08
Rotwang5 minutes become 5n minutes [;19:08
doomicideYeah propably. Anyway I just think patching is the user's responsibility and that software should be shipped vanilla. I, for example don't want the xft patch.19:08
BurnZeZThat's a fault of ports19:09
BurnZeZBut also its strength19:09
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Rotwangdoomicide: but it doesn't change anything for you19:09
Rotwangit extends the interface19:10
doomicideRotwang: Sure but suckless' software is specifically designed to be extended and modified on source code level, by the user.19:10
Rotwangyes, for example crux as a distro is the user19:11
doomicideRotwang: Well, ok you maintain the port, you have the last word obviously.19:12
Rotwangdoomicide: there is even a specific version of this patch for debian19:12
Rotwangthat means author did acknowlege that dmenu may be further patched by given distro19:13
doomicideI think it's there to make it easier for debian users to package their modified dmenu. But it doesn't matter. I just don't think it's the proper way. Like it wouldn't be the proper way for me to ship the xft or gridmode patch with my dwm port.19:17
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tilmangood job comparing dwm, which needs to be configured at compile time with dmenu19:19
doomicidetilman: believe it or not dmenu was until last version and will be again starting with the next version be configured at compile time, using config.h.19:22
tilmanoh boy19:22
doomicideAnyway, I just thought I'd put my opinion on this out there. If Rotwang decides to include the patch that's ok for me. I didn't want to get all passionate about that.19:23
Rotwangdoomicide: how was dmenu configured with config.h?19:28
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doomicideRotwang: here's the current one from git:
doomicideThe commandline options are still available though and will be in the future I think.19:32
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RotwangI remember when awasome listed "configuration file" as one of its pros19:34
Rotwangas compared to dwm [;19:34
doomicideI think that would be legitimate if it wasn't written in fucking lua :D19:35
RotwangI remember that every release they've changed config file format, it was quite frustrating19:36
joacimwhen are they switching to xml?19:36
doomicideAfter they did a complete rewrite of it in javascript featuring 500 handpicked tiling layouts? ;)19:39
tilmanwondering whether the spectrwm guys will come up with a saner dmenu replacement19:39
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doomicidetilman: What's not to like about dmenu (apart from missing xft support)?19:40
tilmangeneral suckless retardation like compile-time configuration making it a pain in the ass to package19:44
joacimI like the idea of simple utilities, but I find theirs are sometimes too simple.19:46
joacimlike st has no scrollback buffer19:46
joacimthey expect you to use screen or tmux. I find that just makes it even more complicated19:46
doomicidejoacim: Yeah I agree on the st/tmux thing. I learned to cope without scrollback buffer, outside my tmux session, but I don't I should've had to. Though there's been floating a patch around on the sl mailing list that adds scrollbackbuffer.19:50
frinnstRotwang: thunderbird needs an update20:37
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: gnu-efi: remove debugging statement21:09
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