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| prologic | Can anyone recommend a usb card reader? | 04:10 |
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| prologic | I bought one and guess what :) It doesn't work with Linux | 04:10 |
| prologic | there are no drivers for it :/ | 04:10 |
| jaeger | wow, didn't know there were any that didn't work, heh | 04:19 |
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| prologic | yeap | 04:24 |
| prologic | I hapen to own such a device | 04:24 |
| prologic | it works fine on the macbook air | 04:24 |
| prologic | but I'm planning on getting rid of the mba | 04:24 |
| prologic | so poo :/ | 04:24 |
| prologic | useles card reader really | 04:24 |
| prologic | apparently I can't purchase some items from amazon.com | 04:27 |
| prologic | gah | 04:27 |
| prologic | such a useless world we live in | 04:27 |
| prologic | I found a card reader that looks to work okay | 04:27 |
| prologic | this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2UTU3W/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3HIHADV23VGU1 | 04:28 |
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| Romster | amazon sucks they wont sell any electrical items, even those that use usb. | 05:34 |
| prologic | yeah they will | 05:34 |
| prologic | as long as you have a US shipping address | 05:35 |
| prologic | borderlinx.com | 05:35 |
| prologic | sign up :) | 05:35 |
| prologic | I just got my stuff orderd and shipped | 05:35 |
| Romster | they cleam not all electrical devices are compatable outside usa... well duh 110 vs 240 volt items. but the hell... usb is 5 volts it's usb works on anyhting with usb... | 05:36 |
| Romster | stupid idiots. | 05:36 |
| Romster | i read borderlinx as border linux | 05:37 |
| Romster | do they charge much prologic ? | 05:38 |
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| prologic | dont' know :) | 05:40 |
| prologic | first time user | 05:40 |
| prologic | we'll see | 05:40 |
| prologic | I'm getting free shipping os far | 05:40 |
| prologic | (trial) | 05:40 |
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| Romster | well if this is good i'll ordermy roccat keyboard and mouse from them | 05:46 |
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| Romster | as it's far cheaper on amazon than from pccasegear not to mention they don't even have the keyboard on pccasegear yet despite being a distributor for roccat | 05:47 |
| Romster | shit is australia is far over priced and they wonder why we order over seas | 05:48 |
| Romster | than to shop locally. | 05:48 |
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| Romster | prologic, i need to get a framwork going for my new versionsort.com site. i'd prefer not to use php and thinking circuits. but if the host supports that is the question and i still suck at using circuits let alone using it with a sql server. | 05:49 |
| Romster | i just need to make a basic search page frontend to search a sql table and display the results. | 05:50 |
| Romster | any examples on that? | 05:50 |
| Romster | i can do the sql tables themself no issues there. | 05:50 |
| Romster | if i have to i could knock it out in php with not much effort, done that in the past. but i feel php is ugly. | 05:51 |
| Romster | not to metion so many security risks with php itself let alone poorly written php code. | 05:51 |
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| prologic | Romster, does your hosting support Python apps in general? | 05:55 |
| Romster | not sure | 05:57 |
| Romster | -_- and i can't ssh in what's going on... | 05:57 |
| Romster | site is up though | 05:58 |
| Romster | actually no it isn't god damn it. | 05:58 |
| Romster | was chaced in my browser. | 05:58 |
| Romster | cached* | 05:58 |
| Romster | i'll have to check that later. i can probably get it added if need be. | 06:01 |
| Romster | circuits though apache would be nice and not sure on what sql engine to use yet | 06:02 |
| Romster | tried and tested mysql or would postgresql be better or even that fork of mysql. | 06:02 |
| Romster | or i might just have to use what is provided. sqlite3 might suffer too much with the amount of data i'm gonna be storing. | 06:03 |
| prologic | how much are you paying for this crap? | 06:04 |
| Romster | free | 06:04 |
| prologic | really? | 06:04 |
| prologic | ok | 06:05 |
| Romster | yes | 06:05 |
| prologic | it's not worth it :) | 06:05 |
| prologic | get a vm from these guys | 06:05 |
| prologic | https://www.digitalocean.com/ | 06:05 |
| prologic | $5/month and you can host as many things as you want | 06:05 |
| Romster | i have like 7 domains now. | 06:05 |
| prologic | (within limits ofc) | 06:05 |
| prologic | yeah get a vm from them | 06:05 |
| prologic | I'm more than happy to do the domain hosting for you | 06:05 |
| prologic | then just setup lighttpd | 06:05 |
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| prologic | and circuits.web web apps | 06:06 |
| prologic | simple | 06:06 |
| prologic | and their vms are ssd backed | 06:06 |
| prologic | so it's fast :) | 06:06 |
| Romster | so i can have a crux image on there? | 06:06 |
| prologic | sure | 06:06 |
| prologic | don't see why not | 06:06 |
| Romster | sweet | 06:06 |
| prologic | it's a full vm | 06:07 |
| prologic | that's my recommendation | 06:07 |
| Romster | make thing easy. | 06:07 |
| prologic | it's cheap, it's fast | 06:07 |
| prologic | it's flexible | 06:07 |
| Romster | thought it cost far more than that. | 06:07 |
| Romster | is there a limit on data quota over network per a month? | 06:07 |
| prologic | see I have a real server at codero | 06:07 |
| prologic | and I run proxmox ve on it | 06:07 |
| prologic | so I basically have my own private virutalization | 06:07 |
| prologic | or private cloud | 06:07 |
| Romster | and it's only for personal/projects stuff nothing illegal. | 06:07 |
| prologic | but digitalocean is good | 06:08 |
| prologic | I hear great thigns about it :) | 06:08 |
| prologic | yeah | 06:08 |
| prologic | $5/month is nothing ihmo | 06:08 |
| prologic | prefect for someone like you :) | 06:08 |
| prologic | I pay $90/month for my server | 06:08 |
| Romster | and i assume i can pay more for more storage should i need it. | 06:08 |
| prologic | https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing | 06:08 |
| Romster | i can afford $5 a month easy and it'll be more reliable. | 06:09 |
| prologic | $5/month - 512MB RAM, 20GB Storage, 1TB Traffic | 06:09 |
| prologic | perfect :) | 06:09 |
| Romster | this is a joke what he is doing currently. | 06:09 |
| prologic | You'll not run that out any time soon :) | 06:09 |
| prologic | seriously :) | 06:09 |
| prologic | it's the best deal I've come across | 06:09 |
| prologic | I'd do it myself if I didn't have my own server | 06:09 |
| prologic | and wanted my own privateg cloud | 06:09 |
| prologic | :) | 06:09 |
| Romster | 1tb traffic hmm, what if my versionsort.com gets that popular and uses that amount of data? can i get a higher limit, but i doubt i ever will exceed that. | 06:10 |
| Romster | oh i can pricing says it all | 06:10 |
| prologic | *nods* | 06:10 |
| prologic | don't expect your website to hit those kinds of traffic limits :) | 06:11 |
| prologic | the web is very convuluted and competitive | 06:11 |
| prologic | :) | 06:11 |
| prologic | jsut get an account, create your vm | 06:11 |
| prologic | and go nuts :) | 06:11 |
| prologic | lighttpd + circuits.web | 06:11 |
| prologic | can't go wrong | 06:11 |
| prologic | go CRUX too (I would) | 06:11 |
| prologic | or CentOS if you have to | 06:11 |
| Romster | i don't i just like peace of mind knowing i wont get stuck if it ever happens. | 06:11 |
| Romster | nah crux is fine | 06:12 |
| prologic | anyway bbl | 06:12 |
| Romster | i know how to work crux. | 06:12 |
| Romster | k | 06:12 |
| prologic | like I said throw me your domains I'm happy to host them | 06:12 |
| prologic | I have a primary name server | 06:12 |
| prologic | and use he.net as slaves | 06:12 |
| Romster | hmm will it stay up this time and how much? 2 are business | 06:12 |
| Romster | rest are my personal stuff/projects | 06:13 |
| prologic | I might even get one of thse myself for diversity and ns backup | 06:13 |
| Romster | and ster.so has 2nd level sub-domains | 06:13 |
| prologic | my server(s) have had a 99.999% uptime :) over the last 6 years | 06:13 |
| prologic | $ ssh root@bart "uptime" | 06:13 |
| prologic | 06:13:41 up 220 days, 17:57, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 06:13 |
| Romster | good well i just don't want a repeat of the past again << | 06:13 |
| prologic | I use to be with hurriacne electric | 06:14 |
| prologic | an atom server running just crux on the metal | 06:14 |
| prologic | now bart in a vm environment | 06:14 |
| prologic | it was up for 3 years before I migrated to codero | 06:14 |
| Romster | so cost if you host and what can you provide? | 06:14 |
| prologic | even up while the US's west coast was suffering those bad cycoles :) | 06:14 |
| prologic | he is on the east coast :) | 06:14 |
| Romster | ah | 06:14 |
| prologic | nah I'll just host your domains | 06:15 |
| prologic | you do your own hosting :) | 06:15 |
| prologic | free :) | 06:15 |
| prologic | if you want I can host your vm too | 06:15 |
| prologic | but it's not really worth it for me | 06:15 |
| prologic | i.e: $5/month is not really worth my time/effort :) | 06:15 |
| Romster | i got my domains on dynadot that a paid service i'm happy with that. | 06:15 |
| prologic | web hosting is too competitive | 06:15 |
| prologic | what does that cost you? | 06:16 |
| Romster | so i just need to do digital ocean and point my dns to them. | 06:16 |
| Romster | like $9.95 a year for a .com | 06:16 |
| prologic | oh | 06:16 |
| prologic | for registration(s)? | 06:16 |
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| Romster | .so was i think $14.95 | 06:16 |
| prologic | do they host the zones for your domains? | 06:16 |
| Romster | ya registrations | 06:16 |
| Romster | i only got the nameservers to the free hosting i have now. i probably could do the zones there too? or on the VM | 06:17 |
| Romster | maybe you can provide backup zones | 06:17 |
| prologic | well either or | 06:17 |
| prologic | it's just a bit fiddly doing zone hosting | 06:17 |
| prologic | bind, setup zones, ensure they're correct | 06:18 |
| prologic | get slaves for redudnacy | 06:18 |
| prologic | etc | 06:18 |
| Romster | i'd liketo learn zone hosting. i know a tiny about about cnames a records | 06:18 |
| prologic | it's often easier to host the domains with someone else that already has all this setup | 06:18 |
| prologic | and just do the web hosting part | 06:18 |
| Romster | tiny bit about* | 06:18 |
| prologic | well anyway | 06:18 |
| prologic | at $5/month with crux | 06:18 |
| prologic | you can do whatever you want | 06:18 |
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| Romster | i will see if i can do the zones on dynadot i'm pretty sure i can. | 06:18 |
| prologic | lighttpd + bind + circuits.web apps | 06:18 |
| prologic | will do most of your web app needs | 06:19 |
| Romster | so images you got one already for upload? | 06:19 |
| prologic | not sure what the process is | 06:19 |
| prologic | most cloud hosting providers will provide a recogvery image | 06:19 |
| prologic | boot into that | 06:19 |
| Romster | i'm used to apache, will lightttpd handle lots of concurrent users? | 06:19 |
| prologic | and then just untar the crux rootfs onto the disk | 06:19 |
| prologic | setup lilo, etc | 06:19 |
| prologic | and reboot | 06:19 |
| prologic | I used to run cloud vms off linode and slicehost many eyars back | 06:20 |
| prologic | and they ran crux | 06:20 |
| Romster | i read somewhere fstab is not setup the same on a virtual VM | 06:20 |
| prologic | lighttpd is asynchronous and much faster and more lightweight than apache | 06:20 |
| prologic | good for doing things like lighttpd + circuits.web (via proxy) | 06:20 |
| Romster | i can always change later if need be. | 06:20 |
| prologic | bbs | 06:20 |
| Romster | ok i'll go lightweight | 06:20 |
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| Romster | prologic, nrxtx http://romster.dyndns.org/tmp/gentoomirror.txt my versionsort parsed list of ftp://ftp.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo.org/distfiles/ | 07:06 |
| Romster | 65% coverage, i'll sql table this | 07:06 |
| Romster | and use other tables to get modfication data md5sums of files and get scrpy to search for mirrors to add to the mirror list. | 07:07 |
| Romster | scrapy* | 07:08 |
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| prologic | looks pretty simple | 07:52 |
| prologic | just signed up a do acc | 07:53 |
| prologic | not sure yet how to isntall crux | 07:53 |
| prologic | but it should be possible :) | 07:53 |
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| prologic | http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/4205633-boot-into-rescue-mode | 08:00 |
| prologic | looks like there is a recovery cd/image | 08:00 |
| prologic | should be just like how I did crux on slicehost/linode | 08:00 |
| prologic | looks really easy | 08:05 |
| prologic | gonna get crux 3.0 running on it now ;) | 08:05 |
| Romster | upload a special image afaik | 08:15 |
| Romster | i'll do one shortly | 08:15 |
| Romster | i think dynadot only does the dns names i'd have to setup bind and i know how complex bind is. | 08:20 |
| Romster | perhaps teK_ could help me with bind crux.nu probably uses it. | 08:20 |
| prologic | I just tried a bunch of things out | 08:22 |
| prologic | a) they only support centos, debian and ubuntu | 08:22 |
| prologic | b) they do have a rescur image - but it seems broeken | 08:22 |
| prologic | c) no way to upload a custom image? | 08:22 |
| prologic | not sure on c - I'll double check | 08:22 |
| prologic | I've filed a few support tickets with them on these issues :) | 08:22 |
| prologic | otherwise just spin up a centos vm for now | 08:22 |
| Romster | -_- | 08:24 |
| Romster | damn i'd like crux. | 08:24 |
| Romster | they don't have to support it. it should run ok providing basic details on how boot loader and fstab should be setup | 08:24 |
| Romster | seems a waste todo a swap partiton as well. | 08:25 |
| Romster | i could do a swap file that's losetup mounted. | 08:25 |
| Romster | or do without it | 08:25 |
| prologic | they do provide a prebuild ubuntu image with docker instaleld | 08:26 |
| prologic | docker.io | 08:26 |
| prologic | I was going to try and build a docker image for crux | 08:26 |
| prologic | docker is a cli tool to manage lxc containers | 08:26 |
| prologic | bit like openvz/proxmox which I use now | 08:26 |
| prologic | why not :) | 08:29 |
| prologic | I'll try to build a lxc/docker container for crux 3.0 | 08:29 |
| Romster | that stuff is all new to me. | 08:34 |
| Romster | honestly i don't know half of python that i don't even know how i managed to even code any functions like i did years ago. | 08:34 |
| Romster | now i'm taking on a project that i can barely code myself and getting help from others. | 08:35 |
| prologic | docker.io/docker is cool | 09:19 |
| prologic | because you can basically package up your applications with it | 09:19 |
| prologic | and run it anywhere lxc can run | 09:19 |
| prologic | which is basically any linux system with kernel 3.8+ | 09:19 |
| prologic | and docker just makes it such a breeze | 09:19 |
| Romster | oh even on that host? | 09:27 |
| Romster | man i'm behind the times.... far too much windows work during the weeks is killing my ability to hack at linux. | 09:28 |
| Romster | and find all these awesome newer tools | 09:29 |
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| Romster | hi | 09:34 |
| Romster | http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook3-0 all covered for installing in there RageRiot| | 09:35 |
| Romster | any questions ask in here someone will chime in. | 09:35 |
| RageRiot| | thanks | 09:36 |
| Romster | yuo wont find a friendlyer distro than in here afaik. | 09:37 |
| Romster | you* | 09:37 |
| Romster | as in irc help | 09:37 |
| Romster | though replies may take some time. | 09:38 |
| nrxtx | Romster: the list looks nice | 09:51 |
| nrxtx | will you make an api for querying it or provide a db downloaD? | 09:52 |
| Romster | if i can manage | 09:57 |
| Romster | well i'll make a search page and look at making an API for other programs to query the database | 09:58 |
| Romster | nrxtx, and the tools i'll probably make available for others to use as well. | 09:59 |
| Romster | so they can do that same listing with the commands. | 09:59 |
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| xvee | hello gentlemen | 10:20 |
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| nrxtx | maybe some people can have a look at their repository: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8503812 | 11:55 |
| Romster | nothing serious off ster.so that concerns me. | 11:59 |
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| just_rex | hello, friends :3 | 12:33 |
| just_rex | what are you up to? | 12:33 |
| just_rex | why the suspicious look? :D | 12:38 |
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| Romster | who the heck was that | 13:12 |
| Romster | http://phys.org/news/2014-01-cyberattack-hacked-refrigerator.html | 13:20 |
| prologic | https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/blob/aa6c99aff604faf3f483372c11e4e10f9d7fc80e/contrib/mkimage-arch.sh <-- Someone feel like having a go of porting this to CRUX and creating a docker image of CRUX? :) | 13:20 |
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| nrxtx | prologic: can you have a look at your repository (https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8503812)? ;) | 13:24 |
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| Romster | prologic, i could manage that. | 13:45 |
| Romster | will it work on that host you posted earlier? | 13:45 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: zsh: 5.0.2 -> 5.0.5, add prt-get completion, fix zshall, update README | 13:50 |
| teK_ | cheers --^ | 13:50 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: cups-filters: update to 1.0.44 | 13:56 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: dar: update to 2.4.12 | 13:56 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: mailx: update to 14.5.2 | 13:56 |
| Romster | man tryign to push changes and opt.git keeps being changed at the exact same time 2nd rebase attempt | 13:57 |
| teK_ | sorry :P | 13:57 |
| teK_ | first comes, first served | 13:57 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: [notify] distribute: 1.4 -> 2.1. Renamed to setuptools | 13:58 |
| joacim | is that some annoying python thing? | 13:58 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: distribute -> setuptools dependency change | 13:58 |
| Romster | acrux did not stay long. | 14:00 |
| Romster | annoying python thing? | 14:01 |
| Romster | it is if your refering to python calling it setuptools then decided to rename to distribute. and then they later decided lets go back to setuptools again. | 14:02 |
| Romster | so i switched sources to setuptools on the old distribute package name. | 14:02 |
| Romster | but decided to just break everything and make it the right name again. | 14:02 |
| Romster | so pkgrm distribute ; prt-get depinst setuptools | 14:03 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: newsbeuter: update to 2.8 | 14:32 |
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| nrxtx | Romster: i worked a little bit more on my repository browser, could be interesting if having a list with current version in the background | 19:43 |
| nrxtx | http://zero-io.net/crux/ | 19:44 |
| nrxtx | anyone else who is interested, feel free testing it | 19:44 |
| tilman | looks very hip ;D | 20:01 |
| nrxtx | was bored of formatting the page myself, so just let a framework do it ;) | 20:04 |
| nrxtx | There were some things i really missed in the official port browser, like see a port with dependencies and its versions from different repos directly | 20:08 |
| prologic | Romster, what an lxc/docker container - yes :) | 20:15 |
| prologic | Romster, I'm building a docker port now to manage lxc/docker containers | 20:16 |
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| joacim | oh man | 21:06 |
| frinnst | looks great | 21:14 |
| tilman | anyone else having trouble building cups-filters? | 21:31 |
| tilman | pdftoraster.cxx:(.text.startup+0xa89): undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::setDisplayProfile(void*)' | 21:31 |
| tilman | *lightbulb*, brb | 21:33 |
| tilman | my poppler-build didn't include support for lcms2 | 21:34 |
| tilman | so, i rebuilt that -> problem solved | 21:34 |
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| prologic | Fixed | 22:13 |
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| c0x | wget ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/releases/tzcode2013i.tar.gz | 23:27 |
| c0x | 425 Security: Bad IP connecting. | 23:27 |
| c0x | WTF?? | 23:27 |
| prologic | http://www.askapache.com/e/425/ | 23:42 |
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