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| Romster | O_O | 01:38 |
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| Romster | sigh work work and more work later. | 01:51 |
| drijen | eyah me too | 01:51 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: xterm: updated to 302 | 01:56 |
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| timcowchip | jumanji and girara | 02:27 |
| drijen | zathura | 02:28 |
| timcowchip | not the movie, the browser | 02:30 |
| timcowchip | https://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji/ | 02:30 |
| timcowchip | https://bitbucket.org/timcowchip/crux-ports/src/4de067cf01572236558672ab7469f701e49145d6/jumanji/?at=master | 02:33 |
| timcowchip | its not that new | 02:34 |
| drijen | i know, just saying | 02:34 |
| jaeger | I'd be happy if anyone would just make one that adheres to the standards | 02:34 |
| jaeger | fully | 02:34 |
| drijen | hello jaeger | 02:34 |
| drijen | long time | 02:35 |
| jaeger | heyo | 02:35 |
| prologic | problem is the standards are ambitious at best | 02:35 |
| prologic | or at least some of them or some parts of them are | 02:35 |
| timcowchip | jaeger: which browser comes closest? | 02:35 |
| prologic | so they are interpretered diferently | 02:35 |
| prologic | common problem in software development | 02:35 |
| jaeger | Don't know the answer to that, honestly. I haven't really kept up with them | 02:35 |
| prologic | ambiguity | 02:35 |
| drijen | jaeger: i'd like to alter your statement to be: "adheres to standards, and ignores DRM" | 02:36 |
| jaeger | Hell, it would even be ok if they didn't adhere to the standards 100% if they were at least consistent... but every one is slightly different | 02:36 |
| jaeger | they only thing they all do well is leak RAM | 02:36 |
| drijen | truth. | 02:36 |
| prologic | and that's because they all compete with each other | 02:36 |
| prologic | competition, profit, greed | 02:36 |
| prologic | being the no.1 browser, etc | 02:36 |
| timcowchip | thats what Russia stands for | 02:37 |
| jaeger | In most cases I'm fine with competition... it's usually a good thing. It hasn't improved the browser space much, though | 02:37 |
| prologic | no, it hasn't | 02:37 |
| timcowchip | kmeleon | 02:37 |
| prologic | and one aspect of that I think which hargely affects this apsce | 02:37 |
| prologic | is the non-agreement on a specifictaion | 02:37 |
| prologic | there are standards for HTML, CSS, ECMAScript (JavaScript) etc | 02:38 |
| timcowchip | galeon | 02:38 |
| prologic | but there is no specification for implementers to adhere to | 02:38 |
| prologic | e.g: there is no JS bytecode | 02:38 |
| prologic | so every JS implantation on every browser is different | 02:38 |
| prologic | spider monkey, v8, (whatever MS's is called), etc, etc | 02:38 |
| prologic | and they all behave differently | 02:38 |
| prologic | unlike say Python which has a specification and many many implementations on various platforms (PyPy, CPython, JYthon, IronPython, StacklessPython, et,c etc) behave the same way for the "core language" with the only differences between special cases | 02:39 |
| prologic | like running atop the KVM (Jython) or the CLI (IronPython) | 02:39 |
| prologic | But JS doesn't have this | 02:39 |
| jaeger | speaking of python, another thing I ran into this week at work: a python 2.4 install that came with some stimulus software on windows... using popen to execute a python 2.6 executable for another python script | 02:45 |
| jaeger | I get that they needed to install some extra modules like matplotlib, six, numpy, etc., but I'd have used the 2.6 install for all of it at that point and left the 2.4 alone | 02:50 |
| prologic | heh | 02:52 |
| prologic | kinda silly way of doing it really | 02:52 |
| prologic | python 2.4 -> popen (fork a new process) -> run python 2.6 -> run some 2.6 code | 02:52 |
| prologic | blah :) | 02:52 |
| jaeger | yeah | 02:52 |
| jaeger | It works in this case because all they use it for is to drive matplotlib and graph some data from a piece of hardware | 02:53 |
| jaeger | if they were doing anything more complicated who knows what kind of issues they might hit between versions | 02:53 |
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| prologic | well it's not like it's very hard to port 2.4 code to 2.6 | 02:55 |
| jaeger | The guy who wrote it is gone now, they're not really programmers | 02:56 |
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| jaeger | so I didn't try to explain any of that to them | 02:56 |
| jaeger | Just got it working | 02:56 |
| prologic | yeah | 02:59 |
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| diverse | prologic: how hard would it be to port 2.x code to 3.x? | 07:23 |
| prologic | not difficult at all really | 07:53 |
| prologic | There are two ways to do it | 07:53 |
| prologic | Port 2.x to 3.x code | 07:53 |
| prologic | or use a compatibility layer | 07:54 |
| prologic | I use the later approach in circuits | 07:54 |
| prologic | using a customized six modules I keep the circuits code base | 07:54 |
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| frinnst | sounds like a wonderful time | 09:45 |
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| dxtr | lawl http://vim.sexy/ | 13:35 |
| Amnesia | dxtr: http://rms.sexy | 13:38 |
| dxtr | Amnesia: Finally! | 13:39 |
| dxtr | How can he possibly code with that tiny screen? | 13:39 |
| jaeger | when can we register .notsexy? :) | 13:44 |
| dxtr | jaeger: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/ go ahead | 13:45 |
| dxtr | http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/guidebook-full-04jun12-en.pdf | 13:45 |
| jaeger | haha, nice, I had no idea | 13:46 |
| dxtr | I think the application costs $50k | 13:47 |
| jaeger | certainly more than I'd be willing to pay for a joke :P | 13:48 |
| dxtr | I'd be willing to donate $10 | 13:48 |
| jaeger | heh | 13:48 |
| dxtr | But other than the application costs there are more requirements | 13:49 |
| dxtr | No criminal history, DNS stability, etc. etc. | 13:50 |
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| dxtr | "Google has filed for 101 new gTLD strings, Amazon comes 2nd with 76 strings, and Microsoft has filed for 11" | 13:52 |
| dxtr | lawl | 13:52 |
| teK_ | https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJWfRU0rWPIpmh4Bt8B7gwCvEukemHGFUr8q6kZ2VszVXTCK3gUg | 13:54 |
| frinnst | when was .sexy approved? | 13:58 |
| frinnst | i like rms.sexy \o/ | 13:58 |
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| diverse | wow, an "rms" version, just wow... | 14:47 |
| diverse | dxtr: he uses emacs, he probably figured out how to get the most real estate space on his screen | 14:48 |
| jaeger | no frivolous window decorations, just xorg-xf86-video-emacs | 14:48 |
| diverse | he only uses xorg to breifly look at pictures -_- | 14:49 |
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| dxtr | I heard he only looks at rms.sexy | 15:25 |
| joacim | .bike | 15:28 |
| joacim | I should make one for my old 10-speed too. To go with joacim.sexy | 15:28 |
| diverse | crux.sexy | 15:31 |
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| frinnst | Domain Name: is.sexy | 15:46 |
| frinnst | >>> This name is not available for registration: | 15:46 |
| frinnst | that domain would have been worth a lot | 15:47 |
| diverse | how about im.sexy? | 15:48 |
| jaeger | im.too.sexy/for/my/shirt | 15:48 |
| diverse | frinnst: get it now, so you can make millions | 15:50 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: stunnel: fix source URL | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: [notify] php: upate to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php-fcgi: update to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php-fpm: update to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php-mysql: update to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: mod_php: update to 5.5.10 | 17:05 |
| diverse | (eww php) | 17:06 |
| diverse | though, thanks for updating | 17:07 |
| cruxbot | [core.git/3.0]: libcap: update to 2.24 | 17:10 |
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| timcowchip | ../corelib/netinterface_unix.cpp: In function 'QList<UnixIface> get_sioc_ifaces()': | 20:47 |
| timcowchip | ../corelib/netinterface_unix.cpp:134:15: error: 'close' was not declared in this scope | 20:47 |
| timcowchip | prt-get depinst psi-im | 20:48 |
| pitillo | timcowchip: have you tried 0.15? | 21:03 |
| timcowchip | I'm trying to modify sepen's Pkgfile for 0.15 now | 21:05 |
| timcowchip | having some trouble though, might go another way | 21:05 |
| timcowchip | like mcabber | 21:06 |
| timcowchip | I see Shin has a newer version of quassel than mine | 21:07 |
| timcowchip | think I'll pull mine | 21:09 |
| timcowchip | then there's always gay jim | 21:11 |
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| frinnst | i never understand what timcowchip is talking about | 22:35 |
| joacim | who is gay jim? | 22:37 |
| jaeger | gajim, perhaps? | 22:37 |
| nogagplz | http://cgi.ebay.ca/ebaymotors/TU-95MS-Soviet-Bomber-/121288805711?forcev4exp=true | 22:56 |
| pitillo | =======> Building '/mnt/pkg_cb1/psi-im#0.15-1.pkg.tar.xz' succeeded. | 23:11 |
| DaViruz | nogagplz: the item location seems like a problem presently ;) | 23:14 |
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| nogagplz | DaViruz: rather than selling it maybe they should use it on the russians :P | 23:31 |
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