IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2014-04-12

teK__changing MAC address will make .170 work (and .1690 not work)00:03
teK__that's even more confusing :D00:03
teK__BYE :D00:03
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jaegerteK__: for tomorrow: if you're not assigning your virtual NICs separate vlans, try that00:40
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: alsa-lib: updated to version 1.0.27.201:51
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: alsa-utils: updated to version 1.0.27.201:51
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.0]: alsa-lib-32: updated to version 1.0.27.201:51
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Roomsterhttp://mobile.news.com.au/technology/online/nsa-knew-about-heartbleed-for-two-years-and-exploited-it/story-fnjwnfzw-122688167941803:03
Roomsternsa -_-03:03
Roomsterim on my phone03:04
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xveeanyone use livestreamer here for twitch?07:14
tilmanyes07:16
xveedo you get lag at all?07:21
tilmani'm in europe07:22
tilmanwe're talking about twitch07:22
tilman:D07:22
xveeheh07:22
xveefair enough07:22
tilman~480p works well07:22
xveewhat player do you use?07:22
tilmanhaven't tried higher resolutions in quite a while07:23
tilmanplayer=mplayer2 -cache 2048 -softvol07:23
xveehm. i added the same thing in my ~/.livestreamerrc, but still lag07:24
xveeminus the softvol07:24
tilmanguess it's just twitch and/or your isp then07:24
xveeque summer time sadness song07:25
xveelol07:25
xveewell at least i know i did what i could. thanks :)07:25
tilmannp07:26
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xveegoodnight everyone09:09
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Romsterok so friend has setup crux with ath9k wifi card. it's spitting out.13:59
Romstercould not read interface wlan013:59
Romsterusing http://pastebin.com/1H2sbBpA14:00
frinnsthm, nothing in dmesg regarding firmware or something?14:00
Romsterdoes it matter that ath9k driver is compiled in and not as a module?14:00
Romsterapparantly other sties say no firmware required.14:00
Romsterhttps://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse14:01
frinnstyeah, building as a module might give you more debug info14:01
frinnston load etc14:01
Romsterhmm14:01
frinnstifconfig -a doesnt show some other interface?14:02
frinnstcrux 3.1 ?14:02
Romster3.014:03
Romsterdidn't want to push my luck14:03
Romsternot new to linux but this person has noting but distro problems when manualyl compiling stuff in ubuntu and another distro so i'm trying to get her on crux.14:04
Romsterand it boots just no wifi interface yet.14:04
Romstergot a a lo and a sit014:04
Romsterso is it sit0 and not wlan0 ?14:05
Romsteror is sit0 some sort of bridge14:05
Romstermaybe wpa_supplicant only works with a module than built in.14:08
Romsterchanging it to a module14:11
Romsterlsmod it's not loaded and modprobe ath9k is not found14:18
Romstersysklogd[ERROR] as well to deal with.14:20
Romsterhttp://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/where-is-ath9k-td2277056.html14:25
Romsternot sure...14:25
Romsterhttp://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k ok testing this out...14:27
Romsteruh wasn't there a kernel config option needed for sysloged now?14:28
Romstersomething event i can't remember14:29
Romsterah no it was something notify14:30
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Romstergeneric was not enabled for cfg8021114:42
jaegersitX is a point to point tunneling interface, unrelated to wireless14:43
Romsterdnotify is already * so why is sysklogd erroring out?14:43
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Romsterok so where did you get the fiormware and how did oyu get it working.14:44
Romsterfirmware*14:44
jaegerfrom git.kernel.org14:44
jaegerthere's a linux-firmware tree14:44
Romstershe has no net until her wifi works... this is looking like a chicken and egg issue.14:44
jaegercheck dmesg first, you may not even need one14:45
jaegerIf it needs firmware you'll see the exact filename in dmesg14:46
Romsterok14:47
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jaegerwireless extensions compat needs to be enabled as well if she's going to use wpa_supplicant's dhcpcd hook14:55
Romster grep ath9k found nothing in dmesg14:55
jaegertry grepping for "firmware" or "fw"14:56
jaegeralso note that if you have the wrong driver selected in the kernel it won't try to load any firmware14:56
jaegerwhat does its lspci entry look like?14:56
Romsterdo the configs have to be * or m for the ath9k stuff?14:58
jaegerdoesn't matter14:58
RomsterAR928514:59
Romsterpci-express revision 0115:00
jaegerso the 9002 driver should support that one15:00
jaeger< >   Atheros 802.11n wireless cards support (NEW)15:00
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Romsterjaeger, all she gets for fw is touchpad and caps15:13
jaegerThen maybe it doesn't need any15:13
jaegerwhat shows up in dmesg when the ath9k module is loaded?15:13
Romstershes enabled the other stuff in the kernel but still no interface.15:14
Romsterthis is frustrating wish she just had lan.15:14
Romster" would rather just have a FULL LIST of what to enable in the kernel (including * m) instead of being sent on a confusing goose chase here"15:14
RomsterI would15:14
Romsterin her words15:14
Romsternot sure if i can help more without being in front of the pc.15:15
jaeger<M>   cfg80211 - wireless configuration API15:15
jaeger[*]     cfg80211 wireless extensions compatibility15:15
Romstershes on kernel 3.6.11 off the iso15:15
jaeger<M>   Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)15:15
jaeger< >   Atheros 802.11n wireless cards support15:15
jaegerthose things15:16
jaegerdoes dmesg show any errors when ath9k is loaded? or anything at all?15:16
Romstershes done all those settings15:16
Romsterexcept the first one is a *15:17
jaegerthat's fine, doesn't matter at all15:17
Romsterfor cfg8021115:17
tilmanteK__: i believe opt/postfix needs a bump. 2.7.x is EOL'd.15:17
Romsterno errors. just blank output15:17
jaegerthat would indicate the kernel doesn't see the device at all15:18
Romsterto top it off not sure why sysklogd[error] yet it has dnotify enabled in kernel.15:18
jaegertry starting it manually, see if there's an error15:18
jaegermight be missing SYSVIPC or something like that15:18
RomsterCONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_COMPAT=y15:19
Romsterenabled on mine15:19
Romsteri'll get her to check those.15:20
Romsteryou mean running the wpa_suppclint command manually?15:20
jaegerno, syslog15:20
Romsterah15:20
jaegerthough really I'd recommend  chasing one problem at a time15:20
jaegerwith that said, fixing syslog might shed some more light on why the wireless doesn't work15:21
Romsteragreed sitck to wifi for the time being.15:21
Romsterhmm15:21
Romstershe had that card working in chickra and ubuntu so we know the card works15:22
jaegerath9k is well supported, it's just something missing on that install15:22
Romsterbut she jsut coudn't get what she wanted setup chickra and ubuntu do some trickery to make it harder to do stuff manually. she managed to compile firefox off LFS15:23
Romsterbut it wont run.15:23
teK__tilman: indeed. Will check the migration notes..15:23
Romstercould it be the older kernel she is on 3.6.11 being too old?15:23
teK__jaeger: I might try that tonight, thx15:23
jaeger3.6.x should work fine for ath9k15:23
jaegerteK__: hope it helps15:23
teK__first: soccer and $food =)15:24
teK__brb15:24
tilmanteK__: sure, no hurry.15:24
Romstershe got klogd fixed.15:24
Romsterthats a start15:24
Romsterjaeger, now she got wifi working phew. she forgot an option in the kernel.15:26
jaeger...15:26
Romsterasked her what she can't remember -_-15:26
jaegeror she doesn't want to say :P15:26
Romsteroh well it's fixed now thanks for the help.15:27
teK__the docs are rather sparse wrt 2.7 -> 2.8 migrations15:35
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: dnsmasq: update to 2.6916:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: hpcups: update to 3.14.416:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: imagemagick: update to 6.8.816:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: lvm2: update to 2.02.10616:02
Romsterlibdevmapper?16:08
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jueRomster: be patient :)16:46
BitPuffinalright I burned a CRUX 3 iso yesterday, should be able to install it on my laptop soon, just have to backup some data16:48
Romsterok jue :)16:48
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: btrfs-progs: update to 3.1416:55
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: gawk: update to 4.1.116:55
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: iproute2: update to 3.14.016:55
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.8516:55
juegit checkout 3.016:56
jueoops :)16:56
BitPuffinsomeone should make a zfs port for crux16:57
BitPuffinthat would be tha bomb16:57
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.0]: libdrm: update to 2.4.5316:58
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: radeon-ucode: updated to 214041220:08
jaegerBitPuffin: it's tied to the current kernel version, kinda annoying. That's why I've never published any20:10
frinnstbah, btrfs ftw :)20:15
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