IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2014-04-28

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: orc: 0.4.18 -> 0.4.1902:39
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z3bramorning06:07
frinnstmornin'06:18
frinnstfuuuuuu! i left my snus at home06:18
openfbtdEveryday I'm building kernels!06:43
openfbtdThe 3.14 branch is troublesome.06:43
z3brawhy ?06:43
openfbtd3.14.1 doesn't boot (hands on decompressing kernel) on both my desktops06:43
openfbtdWith different hardware06:43
z3bra% uname -r06:44
z3bra3.14.106:44
openfbtdThere is a patch that fixes that for haswell machines, but not my home one :D06:44
z3bracompiled/run it without problem06:44
openfbtdI am happy for you06:44
z3brausing my config from 3.1206:44
openfbtdhttps://bugs.archlinux.org/task/3981106:45
openfbtdAnd that's not arch specific06:45
openfbtdNot even haswell-specific, it seems06:45
z3braand it's prior to 3.14.406:47
frinnstoh? i've had other issues with 3.14, but not that it doesnt boot06:48
frinnsti tried running it on my backup server that uses a flash-stick for /06:49
frinnstruns for maybe one or two days, then crashes06:49
openfbtdLet's try 3.14.2 on my home pc06:50
openfbtdAHEM06:51
openfbtdWell now it just reboots after decompressing the kernel06:53
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prologic3.14.x kernel broken huh?07:08
openfbtdMight be that I'm just very unlucky with hardware07:16
prologicmaybe :)07:16
frinnstwow, "Danger 5" looks like an awesome series07:39
frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z09bNgSeMI07:39
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BitPuffin3.14 works ok for me08:20
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BitPuffinexcept I can't get wifi to work08:21
BitPuffinbut that's not the fault of the kernel I think08:21
BitPuffinwell I'm not sure08:21
nogagplzmissing firmware for the wireless nic?08:21
BitPuffinno I got it08:22
BitPuffinjust that I can't scan for networks08:22
BitPuffineven though the nic is on08:22
BitPuffinand detected08:22
BitPuffinand set to up08:22
Romsterdmesg look for firmware08:49
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BitPuffinRomster: well I mean I already went through that process09:16
BitPuffinand added the wlwifi stuff09:17
Romsterk09:17
BitPuffiniwlwifi*09:17
BitPuffinbut yeah I'll probably go thorugh more thouroughly with the firmware09:18
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: apr: add -j1 to 'make install'10:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: [notify] poppler: update to 0.26.010:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: poppler-glib: update to 0.26.010:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: poppler-qt4: update to 0.26.010:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: cups-filters: update to 1.0.5310:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: screen: update to 4.2.110:10
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BitPuffinhmm10:17
BitPuffingotta set up an email server withen 30 days10:17
BitPuffinwithin*10:17
BitPuffindo you guys think crux 3.1 will come out by then?10:18
BitPuffinor should I just go for 3.010:18
frinnstyeah unless something wierd happens :)10:18
BitPuffinah!10:18
BitPuffinfrinnst: when do you think approx?10:18
frinnstan rc1 should be out within a day or so10:18
BitPuffinoh cool!10:18
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frinnstreason for rc is just to clear out any bugs and/or typos in the installer, the packages themselves should be quite solid10:19
BitPuffinyup10:26
BitPuffinwell cool then10:26
BitPuffin:D10:26
z3brawhat will be the main improvement in 3.1 ?10:35
joacimsuper secret systemd10:38
diversez3bra: eudev10:38
z3bradoesn't 3.0 already use that ?10:39
diverseno, just a really old udev10:39
z3braoh, okay10:39
diversealso check out the TODO31 on the wiki for the changes10:40
z3bragood, thanks10:43
diverseconsolidation of network tools is also another improvement, they basically throw out the unmaintained net-tools and rely more inetutils10:44
z3brayeah i read that10:44
z3brait's a good new :)10:44
BitPuffinyeah it now ships with systemd, default desktop is gnome 3 with pulse audio. It also comes with a new kernel that completely uses dbus to communicate between threads and it runs on top of the kernel10:47
z3bra"it now ships with systemd, default desktop is gnome 3 with  pulse audio10:48
z3brayeah, that's definitely crux10:48
BitPuffinyup10:50
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: rxvt-unicode: updated to 9.2011:03
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frinnstI always forget to push stuff :)11:13
z3bra^^11:15
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frinnstRomster: just found a 173 day old snapshot :)11:37
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Romsterfrinnst, nice11:49
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: nginx: update to 1.6.015:35
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tilmanso, does 'valgrind ls' work for you guys on crux 3.0?16:40
tilmani know i talked to tek about this some months ago but i don't remember the outcome of that discussion16:41
jaegertilman: seems like .nostrip was the answer last time but I might be misremembering16:43
drijenmorning gents16:44
drijencmd.fm16:44
drijenif you haven't heard of it yet16:44
tilmanjaeger: mmh yeah, that rings a bell. will try.16:44
tilmannope.16:50
jaeger:/16:51
tilmanteK__: do you remember how to make valgrind/memcheck work? i can't fully remember what we figured out last time we talked about it16:51
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jaegertilman: I looked back in my logs, looks like at the time, glibc-32 needed stripping disabled for valgrind to work on 32-bit libs/programs16:57
jaegermaybe unrelated to the current issue16:57
tilmanaah16:58
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tilmanyeah, i think back then i had two distinct issues:16:58
tilman64 bit binaries not working and 32 bit binaries not working16:59
tilmanthe glibc-32 nostrip thing improved things somewhat, but ofc it didn't help with 'native' 64 bit binaries16:59
jaegermakes sense16:59
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frinnstgame of thrones, suckers!17:22
drijeni expected that episode to be boring17:26
drijenit was not17:26
tilmanno spoilers please17:37
tilmanor i will spoil you worse17:37
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diverseby what? Reading the book and spoiling it out loud? Ironically that would spoil yourself again :P18:12
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tilmani know what happens in the books, i don't know what part of the plot is covered by yesterday's episode18:14
teK__tilman: what was th ematter?18:14
tilmanteK__: "valgrind ls" dies with SIGILL o_O18:15
teK__works for me.. so: tried clearing your env?18:16
tilmanok/yes, doesnt help18:20
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: [notify] flash-player-plugin: updated to 11.2.202.35621:22
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