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| thetornainbow | hey guys, getting ready to install crux on its own partition (no more VM), but i wasn't sure how to setup /boot and the bootloader | 01:03 |
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| thetornainbow | i dual boot arch + windows atm, and have arch's /boot mountpoint set to the EFI partition that windows had natively, and grub is already installed | 01:05 |
| thetornainbow | could i mount crux's /boot to the existing EFI partition with grub already on it, and let grub find the kernel image for crux? or will grub detect vmlinuz images across disk partitions? or should i just write a script in /etc/grub.d/ that probes for kernel images on crux's part? | 01:07 |
| prologic | ignore /boot as such | 01:08 |
| prologic | I almost never setup a separate boot partition | 01:08 |
| prologic | you can if you wish :) | 01:08 |
| prologic | I just setup a single / (root file system) | 01:08 |
| prologic | oh EFI? :) | 01:09 |
| thetornainbow | yep :) | 01:09 |
| prologic | I have no experience with EFI :( | 01:09 |
| prologic | in any case whatever Arch can do CRUX can do | 01:09 |
| prologic | just with a little more typing from you :) | 01:09 |
| thetornainbow | it's not too bad to point /boot to EFI partition that windows makes, then write a little entry for grub to go off of, but i wasn't sure if grub could load windows, arch, and crux and if so, how it would find the image unless i just wrote it myself. | 01:11 |
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| nogagplz | oh well go the other way, just add an entry pointing to your crux kernel and rootfs | 02:23 |
| nogagplz | dead simple | 02:23 |
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| teK__ | diverse: you may use https://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/repo/pkgs/perl-Locale-Maketext/Locale-Maketext-1.25.tar.gz/888df72c3bcf21b069d0184eb515ec37/Locale-Maketext-1.25.tar.gz for perl | 08:07 |
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| Romster | also at http://crux.ster.so/distfiles/ with the most common crux source files. | 08:44 |
| nogagplz | how big is that dir overall romster? | 08:46 |
| Romster | doing another run on it now... | 08:48 |
| Romster | 12GB abouts. | 08:49 |
| Romster | few old files on it though | 08:49 |
| Romster | core opt xorg contrib compat-32 romster | 08:50 |
| Romster | dunno whos else i should be tracking. | 08:50 |
| Romster | http://crux.ster.so/distfiles/MD5SUMS even have a sum file | 08:51 |
| Romster | *.log *.list files too for downloads. | 08:52 |
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| frinnst | Romster: but do you have a sum of *MD5SUMS* ???? | 08:58 |
| frinnst | recursive checksums required | 08:58 |
| frinnst | :P | 08:58 |
| frinnst | wtf the locale-maketext url is broken again? | 09:00 |
| frinnst | hm, seems like search.cpan.org has some issues | 09:00 |
| Romster | no it seems the entire site is down. | 09:02 |
| Romster | frinnst, haha | 09:02 |
| Romster | the perl site must of got over loaded and broke due to the sudden influx of downloads i guess | 09:09 |
| BitPuffin | mornin folks | 09:16 |
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| Romster | morning BitPuffin | 10:02 |
| BitPuffin | hey Romster | 10:03 |
| BitPuffin | Romster: I wanted to point something out yesterday but you weren't here | 10:03 |
| Romster | oh what was it? broken port? | 10:03 |
| BitPuffin | Romster: basically, the jack port in contrib should probably ship with the jack dbus stuff because otherwise jack_start etc (which is commands that come with jack) is completely useless | 10:04 |
| Romster | i do read the backlog but i didn't see anything. | 10:04 |
| Romster | jack dbus -_- | 10:04 |
| Romster | figures | 10:04 |
| BitPuffin | :P | 10:04 |
| Romster | been awhile since i ran jack | 10:04 |
| Romster | ws on my previous install. | 10:04 |
| BitPuffin | well it is useful | 10:05 |
| Romster | was* | 10:05 |
| BitPuffin | it's better than having to restart jack all the time :P | 10:05 |
| Romster | felt heart broken when wine dropped jack support. | 10:05 |
| BitPuffin | they did? I'm pretty sure there are ways to run wine stuff with jack | 10:05 |
| BitPuffin | like you can run REAPER in wine and have it show up in jack I believe | 10:06 |
| Romster | yeah but they had native support. | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | ah | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | didn't know that | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | too bad they removed it | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | jack is the shit | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | but I guess they didn't give jack shit | 10:06 |
| BitPuffin | either way | 10:06 |
| Romster | i complained and they said unless someone is willing to maintain it.... | 10:07 |
| Romster | nope | 10:07 |
| Romster | so dbus how did you enable that? | 10:07 |
| BitPuffin | the way the jack port is packaged is that it includes both the jack and jack-dbus commands, but it doesn't actually come with the dbus plugin for jack | 10:07 |
| Romster | i never had an issue using jack without dbus in the past. | 10:07 |
| BitPuffin | or wai | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | does it come with the jackdbus command? | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | I guess maybe the problem is that I'm starting it with jackd | 10:08 |
| Romster | unless i was using the older jack-audio-connection-kit | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | yeah it might just be my fault | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | will have to check when I get home | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | or actually probably not | 10:08 |
| BitPuffin | because I can't run jack_start | 10:09 |
| nwe | how can I read the dump-file from rndc dumpdb -all | 10:09 |
| BitPuffin | because it will throw a python error that dbus can't find jack stuff or whatever | 10:09 |
| Romster | prt-get fsearch jack_start | 10:10 |
| Romster | doens't even exist | 10:10 |
| Romster | unless it's an extra binary when dbus is present. | 10:10 |
| Romster | i need to check it. | 10:10 |
| BitPuffin | uh not sure if it is called jack_start | 10:14 |
| BitPuffin | I think it is jack_control start actually | 10:14 |
| BitPuffin | my bad | 10:15 |
| BitPuffin | I'm just pulling what I can remember off the top of my head | 10:15 |
| BitPuffin | I'm at work | 10:15 |
| BitPuffin | so mac os x | 10:15 |
| BitPuffin | can't verify stuff :P | 10:15 |
| Romster | they use macs at work... | 10:17 |
| Romster | think you need to test and report at the time your findings. i can always look back in the log | 10:18 |
| Romster | or flyspray or email me if it's easier. | 10:19 |
| BitPuffin | I can test when I get home :) | 10:20 |
| BitPuffin | just wanted to give you a heads up | 10:20 |
| Romster | ya | 10:21 |
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| teK__ | ugh, new privilege escalation hitting 2.6.31 - 3.15rcX | 11:11 |
| teK__ | oh boy :-) | 11:11 |
| frinnst | its not "new" | 11:17 |
| frinnst | they attempted to patch it a week or so ago | 11:17 |
| frinnst | the tty thing? | 11:17 |
| frinnst | sorry, pty | 11:17 |
| frinnst | http://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=588355 | 11:20 |
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| Romster | so why isn't that in yet or it is? | 11:29 |
| Romster | or is that patch to hacky? | 11:29 |
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| prologic | privilege escalation for? | 11:43 |
| Romster | tty i guess | 11:59 |
| nwe | hey guys I question.. I trying to use kSar, and wondering if I need jre or jdk ? | 12:02 |
| nwe | for it.. | 12:03 |
| z3bra | jre to run it | 12:03 |
| frinnst | http://bugfuzz.com/stuff/cve-2014-0196-md.c | 12:03 |
| z3bra | jre = Runtime Environnement | 12:03 |
| z3bra | jdk = Development Kit | 12:03 |
| nwe | z3bra: thanks | 12:03 |
| teK__ | I refred to the PoC frinnst. No need to be small-minded | 12:05 |
| prologic | either or will work just fine | 12:09 |
| frinnst | I AM LARGE | 12:17 |
| teK__ | possibly. But funny? Probably not. | 12:18 |
| Romster | unless you need to built jar files you don't need jdk | 12:19 |
| frinnst | :( | 12:19 |
| Romster | s/built/build | 12:19 |
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| nogagplz | I needed to built jar files once | 12:20 |
| Romster | stop cashing in my my bad choice of words. | 12:20 |
| nogagplz | no! | 12:20 |
| teK__ | iirc, jre does not include source code for standard libraries so you cannot debug using these, either. | 12:20 |
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| Romster | probably not. and some parts of jdk/jre are binary only as well. | 12:21 |
| Romster | certain modules. | 12:21 |
| teK__ | if you say so | 12:21 |
| Romster | some parts are binary and no source is provided :/ like openjdk implement the open source parts but then removed the property parts. | 12:27 |
| Romster | but is of little concern since not much even uses the property parts in linux afaik. | 12:27 |
| prologic | Romster, they're callsed classes :) | 12:28 |
| prologic | Java has packages and classes :) | 12:28 |
| Romster | blah -_- | 12:28 |
| Romster | you know what i mean. | 12:28 |
| prologic | shitty horribleness of a language :) | 12:28 |
| Romster | i'm not a programmer. | 12:28 |
| Romster | yeah will not learn it. | 12:28 |
| prologic | I had to create .jar and .javac files once upon a time | 12:29 |
| prologic | uggh | 12:29 |
| prologic | Java stack traces are super lovely | 12:29 |
| Romster | so ugly. | 12:30 |
| jaeger | He was young and needet the money! | 12:30 |
| Romster | hehe | 12:31 |
| Romster | wish i had a better mental capacity to remember everything though. | 12:31 |
| prologic | haha | 12:32 |
| prologic | jaeger, nah it was for Uni | 12:32 |
| prologic | if only I were paid to do it :) | 12:32 |
| prologic | to this day I just ignore Java job adverts | 12:32 |
| prologic | almost in disgust :) | 12:32 |
| prologic | the extra money you'd pay in tax (higher salary but not because of tax) and added stress is not worth it :) | 12:33 |
| Romster | spyda is working better with tighter whitelists, i would love to be able to set PATTERN= as a environment variable or a file though. | 12:33 |
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| prologic | pull request :) | 12:34 |
| prologic | go rip off kdb's config code which supports both -foo/--foo (long/short) cli options as well as FOO env var counterparts and a --config= (INI-style config file) | 12:35 |
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| Romster | oh that's an idea thanks | 12:37 |
| Romster | that's a interseting metric prologic between income, code stress to debug/program vs the cost of seeing a doctor due to stress. | 12:38 |
| Romster | or time off work. | 12:38 |
| Romster | which is also cost. | 12:38 |
| prologic | basic oligarchy economy of most of the modern world :) | 12:39 |
| prologic | the most you earn, the more tax you pay | 12:40 |
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| prologic | unless you just happen to be one of the ones in the oligarchy and hide your millions/billions and get away without paying tax :) | 12:40 |
| Romster | until they freeze your assets | 12:40 |
| renovaatio | hi, my startx session sudenly refusesto start, without any message printed, and nothing in /var/log | 12:40 |
| renovaatio | any hints? | 12:41 |
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| Romster | renovaatio, is sysklogd running? | 12:41 |
| Romster | SYSLOG=sysklogd in /etc/rc.conf | 12:41 |
| renovaatio | lemme check | 12:41 |
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| renovaatio | Romster: yes | 12:42 |
| Romster | pgrep syslogd | 12:42 |
| prologic | hmm did not know this, but apparently you can mount --bind over the top of an existing file :) | 12:42 |
| Romster | and you should have a Xorg.log in /var/log/ as well. | 12:42 |
| renovaatio | Romster: pid 188 | 12:43 |
| renovaatio | there is a Xorg.log in $var$log | 12:43 |
| Romster | i thought that only worked on directories prologic | 12:43 |
| prologic | also startx on a tty (console) should print "something" | 12:43 |
| Romster | and what's in it wgetpaste it perhaps? | 12:43 |
| prologic | the fact it prints nothing at all is worrying | 12:43 |
| Romster | yeah | 12:43 |
| Romster | did it work before? do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? | 12:44 |
| renovaatio | it worked yesterday | 12:44 |
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| frinnst | some lockfile still around, perhaps? | 12:44 |
| renovaatio | it wirked after my last update last week, and after it as well | 12:44 |
| Romster | and you did a sysup? | 12:44 |
| renovaatio | Romster: I dont have anything /etc/X11/xorg* | 12:45 |
| Romster | prt-get update -fr $(revdep) | 12:45 |
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| Romster | as root | 12:45 |
| frinnst | slim usually leaves a lockfile when i manage to crash the box, fucking stuff up the next boot | 12:45 |
| prologic | you should (normally) not need an /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:45 |
| prologic | modern Xorg shoudld normally figure out most things | 12:45 |
| renovaatio | frinnst: i use startx | 12:45 |
| Romster | revdep is in prt-utils if oyu don't have that prt-get depinst prt-utils | 12:45 |
| frinnst | you should have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ | 12:45 |
| Romster | it'll rebuild anything broken during a update. | 12:45 |
| jaeger | renovaatio: anything if you capture both stdout and stderr to a log file? startx > wtf.log 2>&1 | 12:45 |
| prologic | start &> log | 12:46 |
| prologic | you *should* get something! | 12:46 |
| Romster | not everyone needs a xorg.conf | 12:46 |
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| Romster | X is pretty smart now. | 12:46 |
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| renovaatio | Romster: prt-get sysup -if --log --ignore=gcc,glibc | 12:46 |
| prologic | ooer why ignore the toolchain? :) | 12:46 |
| Romster | renovaatio, check with revdep ^^ | 12:47 |
| Romster | will take some time. | 12:47 |
| prologic | even with a broken library you'll get an error about some library not available it's trying to laod | 12:47 |
| Romster | and another note if oyu rebuild xorg-server be sure to rebuild input and video modules after. | 12:47 |
| Romster | true | 12:47 |
| prologic | are you sure /usr/bin/startx isn't just a file containing "#!/bin/bash\nexit 0" :) | 12:48 |
| Romster | no log no error that is really weird. | 12:48 |
| prologic | only way you'd get "nothing" :) | 12:48 |
| Romster | rofl | 12:48 |
| Romster | or you made an alias | 12:48 |
| Romster | to the same effect | 12:48 |
| nogagplz | or whatever has startx isn't installed | 12:48 |
| renovaatio | uhh | 12:48 |
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| prologic | $ wc -l $(which startx) | 12:49 |
| prologic | 292 /usr/bin/startx | 12:49 |
| prologic | $ codepad < $(which startx) | 12:49 |
| prologic | http://codepad.org/PRAfOAWW | 12:49 |
| renovaatio | startx &> fuck_log | 12:49 |
| renovaatio | it worked that time | 12:49 |
| renovaatio | makes no sense | 12:49 |
| jaeger | heh | 12:49 |
| jaeger | all you had to do is curse at it | 12:49 |
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| prologic | makes no sense to us either :) | 12:49 |
| Romster | welcome to computers where no sense is made | 12:49 |
| prologic | most Linux/UNIX systems I've ever worked with just dont' go "bellow up" like this | 12:49 |
| prologic | unless you have some really weird/bad hw failure :) | 12:49 |
| prologic | or it's r00ted | 12:49 |
| Romster | belly up | 12:49 |
| prologic | or you've encountered a really nice bug :) | 12:50 |
| prologic | sorry yes belly* :) | 12:50 |
| Romster | it's probably PEBKAC | 12:50 |
| prologic | lol | 12:50 |
| prologic | and yeah I don't agree with your statement "Romster> welcome to computers where no sense is made" | 12:50 |
| Romster | i do it all the time. | 12:50 |
| prologic | there is always a reaonable explaiantion :) | 12:50 |
| Romster | well most times... | 12:50 |
| prologic | it just is a trade off of how long you want to spend finding out :) | 12:51 |
| Romster | i get some customers. | 12:51 |
| prologic | reboot is not the right solution :) | 12:51 |
| Romster | unless it's windows | 12:51 |
| renovaatio | wellllll thanks guys | 12:51 |
| prologic | yeah well isn't that where the knee-jerk reaction came from? :) | 12:51 |
| renovaatio | you are always hekpful | 12:51 |
| prologic | thank you? | 12:51 |
| prologic | we did nothing :) | 12:51 |
| prologic | just typical problem solving | 12:51 |
| renovaatio | you were available and friendly | 12:52 |
| prologic | this channel is logged | 12:52 |
| prologic | just google for crux <insert your favourite problem here> | 12:52 |
| prologic | :) | 12:52 |
| prologic | in the next day or two you'll be able to search for: "crux startx fuck you" | 12:52 |
| prologic | :) | 12:52 |
| prologic | how sad | 12:52 |
| Romster | crux i need coffee | 12:53 |
| Romster | http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/the-crux-in-flux/Content?oid=2652432 | 12:53 |
| Romster | -_- | 12:53 |
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| prologic | haha | 12:54 |
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| prologic | we should have a talking crux mascot desktop assistant :) | 12:54 |
| prologic | that responds to voice commands and behaves like Siri | 12:55 |
| z3bra | what about a living clipper ? | 12:55 |
| prologic | nah that's M$'s idea of a desktop assistant :) | 12:56 |
| prologic | kinda lame :) | 12:56 |
| z3bra | ;P | 12:56 |
| Romster | there was that eyes thing that used to follow the mouse. | 12:56 |
| prologic | I said crux mascot :) | 12:57 |
| prologic | isn't that our little blue coloured penguin that sits on his ass? :) | 12:57 |
| z3bra | it is | 12:57 |
| Romster | our drunk penguin | 12:57 |
| z3bra | (i guess) | 12:57 |
| z3bra | he needs a bottle in his hands | 12:58 |
| z3bra | (her?) | 12:58 |
| Romster | btw did anyone makea SVG of that mascot on the crux.nu site? | 12:58 |
| prologic | dunno | 13:00 |
| prologic | I think it's been around for a while | 13:00 |
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| frinnst | or mascot looks fucked up :) | 13:02 |
| frinnst | our* | 13:02 |
| prologic | https://www.google.com.au/search?q=crux+linux+logos&safe=off&es_sm=121&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=gcZwU-elD4KOkwXYk4HYCg&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=968 | 13:03 |
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| prologic | http://www.gigaperls.org/linux/ | 13:03 |
| prologic | wow :) | 13:03 |
| prologic | who's behind this? | 13:03 |
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| prologic | http://www.gigaperls.org/linux/buntsitz_00g.gif | 13:05 |
| z3bra | >linux | 13:05 |
| z3bra | not crux | 13:05 |
| Romster | i saw that ages ago prologic | 13:05 |
| Romster | the due that made the mascot | 13:06 |
| prologic | ahh | 13:07 |
| frinnst | holy shit he's ugly | 13:07 |
| nogagplz | lol those eyes | 13:08 |
| frinnst | http://obra.se/crux-tB.png | 13:09 |
| frinnst | also: http://obra.se/Romster_tabletennis.jpg | 13:10 |
| prologic | haha | 13:10 |
| Romster | oh for gods sake.... | 13:10 |
| frinnst | :D | 13:10 |
| Romster | any one dare challenge me at table tennis << | 13:11 |
| Romster | is that your site frinnst ? | 13:11 |
| prologic | I dare :) | 13:12 |
| frinnst | obra.se ? yeah | 13:12 |
| frinnst | obra.http://obra.se/ikea2.jpg | 13:12 |
| frinnst | its the bottom one | 13:12 |
| Romster | one of tese days need to photograph my trophies. | 13:12 |
| Romster | is that were your server sits? | 13:13 |
| Romster | i bet. | 13:13 |
| nogagplz | romster that is a very stylish part I must say | 13:14 |
| Romster | hehe thanks | 13:14 |
| frinnst | http://obra.se/ikea1.jpg | 13:14 |
| frinnst | yeeep server + backup server | 13:14 |
| Romster | neat | 13:14 |
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| Romster | hope it has ventilation | 13:15 |
| Romster | don't think i'd want a noisy server near the sofa though | 13:15 |
| frinnst | those pics were taken just as i installed it. i've removed the back part - it got a little hot | 13:15 |
| Romster | i was wondering that. | 13:16 |
| frinnst | and they are not noisy at all even with 5 disks in each | 13:16 |
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| frinnst | hp microservers just have one 120mm fan, cooling disks and cpu | 13:17 |
| Romster | id install a fan that turns on at a certain temperature and have some thermo siphoning path | 13:17 |
| frinnst | k10temp-pci-00c3 | 13:17 |
| frinnst | Adapter: PCI adapter | 13:17 |
| frinnst | temp1: +42.5�C (high = +70.0�C) (crit = +100.0�C, hyst = +95.0�C) | 13:17 |
| Romster | ok so no screaming fans | 13:17 |
| frinnst | they are dirt cheap as well | 13:18 |
| Romster | cool | 13:19 |
| frinnst | model name: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N54L Dual-Core Processor | 13:20 |
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| Romster | good enough for a server. | 14:02 |
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| saptech | hello all | 14:08 |
| saptech | I've since got my network up and running and now using Crux | 14:10 |
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| jaeger | saptech: good deal :) | 14:28 |
| saptech | thanks. I ended up reinstalling, the first install, I didn't do the modules correctly | 14:29 |
| saptech | and I made sure everything I needed for my device was included in the kernel | 14:29 |
| saptech | thanks to you, jaeger and others, who helped me get on the right trail | 14:30 |
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| jaeger | glad to help | 14:34 |
| saptech | how often should you do the prt-get sysup? | 14:36 |
| frinnst | prt-get sysup by itself wont do much. you need to "ports -u" first | 14:37 |
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| frinnst | ports -u could be run daily | 14:38 |
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| saptech | dag, freaking chatzilla | 14:39 |
| frinnst | 16:38 <frinnst> ports -u could be run daily | 14:45 |
| cruxbot | [core.git/3.0]: perl: Updated Locale-Maketext URL | 14:46 |
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| saptech | is it okay to install two or more programs at the same time? | 15:16 |
| jaeger | sure, if you have the CPU/RAM for it. You'll see a failure if both install processes try to update the package database at the same time but you can just re-add the one that failed | 15:19 |
| teK__ | pkgadd acquires a lock on the DB before installing/upgrading packages so I suppose: yes | 15:19 |
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| saptech | ok, thanks | 15:32 |
| teK__ | but it fails immediately if it cannot get it. pussy :P | 15:34 |
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| joacim | which ssh clients for android do we like in this channel? | 15:56 |
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| saptech | I've heard ConnectBot is a good one. I've never used it but will once I get Crux setup completly | 15:59 |
| saptech | I need to access my home computer from work | 15:59 |
| saptech | connectbot should be in the play store | 15:59 |
| joacim | and that is one tiny font | 16:03 |
| saptech | the font? | 16:05 |
| saptech | connectbot font | 16:06 |
| saptech | I don't do much surfing type of things on my phone, screen too small. I do have a 8 inch tablet | 16:06 |
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| shat | morning | 16:19 |
| jaeger | joacim: I use one called JuiceSSH or something like that. it's ok. I haven't really shopped around | 16:24 |
| joacim | juicessh seems to work well | 16:33 |
| shat | I use Juice on droid as well, Prompt for iOS | 16:46 |
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| saptech | I installed pcmanfm file manager, but no icon for folders/files | 17:05 |
| saptech | I tried searching for a few but no packages found. any suggestions? | 17:06 |
| frinnst | prt-get search icon | 17:08 |
| frinnst | not sure what icons pcmanfm uses though | 17:08 |
| frinnst | but i'd bet its just a gtk/gnome icon theme | 17:09 |
| saptech | some docs I'm reading was using gnome-icon-themes and oxygen | 17:11 |
| saptech | as examples | 17:12 |
| saptech | prt-get search show these, hicolor-icon-themep5-text-iconvxorg-xf86-video-siliconmotion | 17:13 |
| saptech | hicolor-icon-theme, p5-text-iconv, xorg-xf86-video-siliconmotion | 17:14 |
| saptech | the docs say hicolor won't work and look like the p5-text is text and xorg is video | 17:15 |
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| j_v | I'm working on a LinuxFromScratch install. I'd like to use pkgutils, prt-get, and maybe even ports to manage my system. Is there any objections to this usage? I ask because I would likely publish my port collection and system build files on github or some similar site. | 22:12 |
| frinnst | of course not, have fun | 22:15 |
| frinnst | :) | 22:15 |
| j_v | very cool. | 22:16 |
| frinnst | if you make improvements, feel free to post it to our mailinglist | 22:16 |
| j_v | That is reasonable. | 22:17 |
| j_v | I'm following an currently developing lfs hint for installing runit as both init and service manager. I've only got the rudimentary system up and running, but the dev's doing the work are make excellent progress. | 22:24 |
| epitamizor | hey how do i make the initrd? | 22:31 |
| saptech | prt-get search abiword[Config error: can't access /usr/ports/compat-32]No matching packages found. Does this mean there is no 64 bit version for Abiword? | 22:47 |
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| pidsley | j_v : I have CRUX ports working on an LFS system. It's not difficult. | 22:52 |
| epitamizor | nm i got it running | 22:55 |
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| j_v | pidsley: that's great! I've been reading the docs and manuals for pkgutils and prt-get. It looks pretty straight forward. I'll be installing them after dinner and working on the configs toight and tommorow. Good to hear you can get ports working easily enough. | 23:05 |
| j_v | s/toight/tonight/ | 23:06 |
| j_v | s/\(to\)\(ight\)/\1n\2/ | 23:07 |
| pidsley | :) good luck | 23:16 |
| j_v | Thanks... I maintain some sbo slackbuilds, so it's a bit more compilcated than that. But much less complicated than the hairy mess of dpkg and apt. | 23:18 |
| pidsley | the only problem I had was with thing I had already installed as part of the LFS build. | 23:21 |
| pidsley | You have to convince the ports system that those are already installed | 23:21 |
| pidsley | ^things | 23:22 |
| j_v | Yeah, I thought about that issue. I'm wondering how hard it will be to setup the lfs build to actually run from pkgmk Pkgfile's. | 23:22 |
| pidsley | I started with LFS, and then did most of what they call BLFS with ports (xorg, etc) | 23:23 |
| pidsley | but if you started earlier it might be easier. I just wanted to see if I could do it | 23:24 |
| pidsley | http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=25&p=14341&hilit=crux+ports#p14341 | 23:25 |
| j_v | Very cool that you did. The three linux's that I like are slack, crux, and lfs... though I've had the least exposure to crux. | 23:25 |
| pidsley | crux is probably my favorite distro. I am having some problems with a new install on a test machine | 23:26 |
| pidsley | that I will probably ask about here shortly. but I have had it running for almost a year on another machine | 23:27 |
| pidsley | slack always puts me off because i don't know how to do a minimal install | 23:27 |
| j_v | minimal is though with slack, but I just leave out the DE's and that drops a lot of the cruft for me. I run a bare X session, so I don't need much. I will probably install a crux system to a box I'm intending to rework... maybe later this month. | 23:29 |
| j_v | s/though/tough/ | 23:29 |
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| pidsley | i know other people who love slackware, but i've just never been one of them. perhaps i should try it again | 23:32 |
| jaeger | saptech: if prt-get can't find it then it's not available in the repos that you already have on your system. you can also search http://crux.nu/portdb/ | 23:32 |
| pidsley | http://crux.nu/portdb/index.php?q=abiword&a=search | 23:33 |
| j_v | I'm not trying to push slack... it has advantages, but I don't think it's any better than crux. | 23:34 |
| pidsley | i know -- i like to try other distros, and i have tried slack, it just doesn't make me as happy as some others | 23:35 |
| jaeger | I'm completely out of touch with slack, last version I used was slackware '96 | 23:35 |
| pidsley | @jaeger ; do you use anything other than crux? | 23:36 |
| jaeger | my personal stuff is all crux. at work I also use ubuntu and some centos | 23:36 |
| jaeger | In the past, though, I've used most of the popular dists | 23:36 |
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| pidsley | i have too many installs, on too many machines ;) | 23:37 |
| pidsley | @jaeger, I mentioned a problem i was having with a new crux install -- I can't build glibc-32. i don't have the exact error message | 23:37 |
| pidsley | but i will have it in a few minutes | 23:38 |
| pidsley | my old install updates fine, it's just this new install that fails | 23:38 |
| jaeger | pidsley: you can't build a lot of things if glibc-32 isn't already installed | 23:38 |
| jaeger | did you not install glibc-32 from the ISO/CD? | 23:38 |
| saptech | jaeger thanks again | 23:39 |
| jaeger | It's an integral part of the toolchain which is why it's the only *-32 port in core | 23:39 |
| jaeger | saptech: np | 23:39 |
| pidsley | I did a regular install, installed the core packages, and then once it was installed I tried to update, and the update fails | 23:39 |
| pidsley | the system runs, it just won't update | 23:39 |
| jaeger | ah, that's odd. well, pastebin the error if you can | 23:39 |
| saptech | I've been running Mageia 4 and Salix OS | 23:40 |
| pidsley | will do. it's trying to build now, i expect it will fail and i will post the error | 23:40 |
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| pidsley | saptech : do you like salix ? | 23:49 |
| saptech | yes its pretty solid | 23:50 |
| saptech | Slackware made easy | 23:51 |
| saptech | it uses slapt-get for pkg manager | 23:51 |
| pidsley | ;) did you install the core, or basic, or full install ? | 23:51 |
| saptech | a full xfce version | 23:51 |
| pidsley | really made easy then | 23:52 |
| saptech | at the time I was in a hurry to install something from a hard drive crash | 23:52 |
| saptech | yep | 23:52 |
| pidsley | i should try it on one of my test machines | 23:53 |
| saptech | go for it. it's slack compatible | 23:53 |
| pidsley | i have very limited experience with slackware | 23:53 |
| pidsley | just about everything else, but slack always puts me off for some reason | 23:54 |
| pidsley | what are they using for init now ? | 23:55 |
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