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z3bra | Hi ! | 06:06 |
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nwe | Hello | 06:07 |
z3bra | how are you doin ? | 06:08 |
nwe | z3bra: it?s fine with me thanks, Right now I working @home and taking a coffee :) | 06:08 |
z3bra | cheers then ! | 06:09 |
z3bra | driking mine too (but already @work) | 06:09 |
nwe | oh :) I working from home today, the train company here in sweden has some trouble so all our trains are cancelled | 06:10 |
z3bra | ouch ^^ | 06:11 |
nwe | yeah they have been canceled in 3 days now... | 06:11 |
z3bra | erf... how long do they plan make it last ? | 06:12 |
nwe | to 8/6 .. | 06:12 |
z3bra | good luck then | 06:12 |
nwe | 8 june. | 06:12 |
z3bra | At least, you can work from home :) | 06:12 |
nwe | yupp :) | 06:13 |
z3bra | btw, I was wondering about how you guys deal with "forking" packages | 06:44 |
z3bra | I means, yesterday, I add to modify the rxvt-unicode package, because the compilation flags don't suit me (lack of --enable-unicode3) | 06:45 |
z3bra | So I just copied the ports from opt/ to my homedir and went like that | 06:45 |
z3bra | But I'm wondering how it's gonna go on the long term | 06:45 |
z3bra | eg, new release of rxvt-unicode in opt/ | 06:46 |
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nwe | any idea about this... I can mount /data/tv, but I cant mount /data/movies I have exact same permission on both | 15:39 |
jaeger | error message? | 15:39 |
nwe | Jun 3 17:39:23 gateway rpc.mountd[4624]: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.25:735 for /data/movies (/data/movies) | 15:40 |
nwe | thats the only message I get.. | 15:40 |
jaeger | no idea there, sorry | 15:44 |
jaeger | what does 'showmount -e gateway' say on the client? | 15:47 |
nwe | jaeger: /data/tv 192.168.1.0/24 | 15:51 |
nwe | /data/movies 192.168.1.0/24 | 15:51 |
nwe | Export list for gateway | 15:51 |
jaeger | Anything in the logs on the client? | 15:52 |
nwe | jaeger: nope | 15:53 |
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frinnst | Feigr: o-rings installed | 17:29 |
frinnst | feels great. less travel to bottom out and a much softer & quieter landing :) | 17:29 |
Feigr | cool | 17:30 |
frinnst | mounting was a bit painful :) | 17:32 |
tilman | btw, if you want to improve on your technique you might find amphetype helpful | 17:32 |
frinnst | cool | 17:33 |
frinnst | the joy of non-productive typing \o/ | 17:34 |
tilman | I've been typing The Heart of Darkness | 17:34 |
tilman | it's almost like reading a book ;) | 17:34 |
tilman | so something something culture something | 17:34 |
frinnst | heh, yeah that might actually be fun | 17:34 |
tilman | it comes with the pulp fiction script if you want to train how to type 'fuck' and its variations ;) | 17:35 |
frinnst | ooh, kafka | 17:37 |
frinnst | i read metamorphosis years ago, loved it | 17:37 |
tilman | never read kafka | 17:37 |
frinnst | Who doesnt enjoy waking up as a giant bug? | 17:37 |
frinnst | heh, just read the intro to it | 17:38 |
tilman | ^ that's about all i know about that book | 17:38 |
frinnst | it sort of "sets the tone" | 17:38 |
frinnst | ImportError: No module named PyQt4.QtCore | 17:39 |
frinnst | joy, you dont happen to have a port for it (with all the deps)? :) | 17:40 |
tilman | nope, i just checked out the source in my ~ | 17:40 |
tilman | probably because amphetype stores its database next to the scripts (ugh) | 17:40 |
frinnst | sip & pyqt4 were available in the kde repo. seems lightweight enough | 17:43 |
tilman | yes | 17:43 |
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BitPuffin | is there any known issues with installing from a USB drive? | 19:46 |
BitPuffin | because i told my friend to dd if=.. of=.. bs=1M and when he boots syslinux has issues | 19:46 |
BitPuffin | like it says no default ui or blabla configuration found | 19:46 |
BitPuffin | SYSLINUX: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found | 19:46 |
BitPuffin | cc frinnst | 19:47 |
BitPuffin | or jaeger actually | 19:47 |
BitPuffin | (rc 2) | 19:50 |
rexich | did he write the ISO to a partition, or to the whole USB drive? | 19:54 |
rexich | only the latter will work (dd to whole drive) | 19:55 |
BitPuffin | to the whole drive | 19:57 |
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rexich | tell him to try only "dd if=crux.iso of=/dev/sdX" and nothing more, sync after it finishes and once the light on the USB drive stops flashing, let him remove it from the system and boot using the USB drive again plugged in the computer, in case it's a PC may he plug the drive in the USB ports behind, avoid front ports they can cause issues | 20:09 |
BitPuffin | will the sync command not return until it stops flashing? | 20:10 |
BitPuffin | it's a laptop | 20:10 |
teK___ | no it won't | 20:11 |
BitPuffin | no it won't not return? | 20:12 |
BitPuffin | because he doesn't have a usb drive that flashes | 20:13 |
teK___ | it will return when flushing the buffers is done | 20:13 |
BitPuffin | ok | 20:14 |
BitPuffin | cool | 20:14 |
prologic | the correct question is | 20:15 |
prologic | is sync synchronous? :) | 20:15 |
prologic | yes it is :) | 20:15 |
BitPuffin | yeah ok | 20:16 |
prologic | morning :) | 20:16 |
prologic | so running late for work :/ | 20:16 |
prologic | trying to drink my coffee as fast as I can :) | 20:16 |
jaeger | some usb drives can be picky about the block size, though I've no idea why it matters | 20:17 |
jaeger | I usually use bs=16M for what that's worth | 20:17 |
BitPuffin | he did sudo dd if=Downloads/crux-3.1-rc2.iso of=/dev/sdb | 20:17 |
opencrabd | Um | 20:17 |
opencrabd | If you write directly to a device | 20:17 |
opencrabd | It's always synchronized, no? | 20:17 |
prologic | yes I believe so | 20:17 |
prologic | because you bypass the file system layer | 20:17 |
BitPuffin | well it still didn't work | 20:17 |
prologic | dd should be synced | 20:17 |
BitPuffin | so he's trying with 16M | 20:17 |
jaeger | If that does work, try a different USB drive | 20:18 |
prologic | as should cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdc | 20:18 |
BitPuffin | Yeah I've never seen dd not be synchronous | 20:18 |
opencrabd | Hmm | 20:18 |
jaeger | plenty of cheap ones out there | 20:18 |
BitPuffin | jaeger: do you know what block size the iso is? | 20:18 |
opencrabd | Me neither | 20:18 |
prologic | hey my USB stick died the other day | 20:18 |
BitPuffin | or is there a way to know what blocksize the drive wants | 20:18 |
prologic | I blame water damage from rain in my work bah :) | 20:18 |
jaeger | The ISO doesn't have a block size, it's drive-specific | 20:18 |
BitPuffin | ah | 20:18 |
jaeger | usually fdisk or parted can show you that | 20:18 |
BitPuffin | even after formatting? | 20:19 |
prologic | cyas gotta dash | 20:19 |
BitPuffin | see you prologic! | 20:19 |
jaeger | filesystem block size and device block size aren't necessarily the same | 20:19 |
jaeger | most of the time it's going to be 512 bytes on the device itself, though 4k drives are becoming more common now | 20:20 |
jaeger | with all that said, dd's bs argument is just telling it how much to read and write at a time, not about the underlying device | 20:21 |
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BitPuffin | btw melon is the friend | 20:24 |
BitPuffin | the one true friend | 20:24 |
BitPuffin | jaeger: well hrm, well sometimes the bs has mattered when I've tried to installed stuff with dd | 20:25 |
BitPuffin | so I don't know | 20:25 |
BitPuffin | (it's been when installing haiku) | 20:25 |
melon | o/ | 20:25 |
jaeger | I think that's just the drive being low quality flash but I could be wrong | 20:25 |
BitPuffin | I dunno | 20:25 |
melon | I honestly don't know about the specifics but the build of the drive (SanDisk) is allright | 20:25 |
BitPuffin | well if bs does not matter with dd, then what can one do | 20:26 |
jaeger | It can matter but the point I'm trying to make is I don't think it's because of dd, I think it's because of the flash | 20:26 |
melon | I can try another flash but I think those might be even worse. | 20:27 |
BitPuffin | weird | 20:39 |
BitPuffin | same thing again | 20:39 |
BitPuffin | different usb drive | 20:39 |
jaeger | can it be mounted in a running system and browsed? | 20:40 |
BitPuffin | let's check | 20:40 |
BitPuffin | have you tried it with rc2? | 20:40 |
jaeger | yes, I believe so | 20:41 |
jaeger | does the md5sum match the downloaded image as well as the USB drive after writing? | 20:41 |
Amnesia | http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img15/4074/photomar07132726.jpg :P | 20:41 |
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jaeger | dd if=/dev/sdd count=$((346030080/512)) 2>/dev/null | md5sum - | 20:48 |
jaeger | 774f001e57e915aeb8deb2e98b197f34 - | 20:48 |
jaeger | will see if it boots now | 20:48 |
jaeger | yep, booted without any issues | 20:49 |
BitPuffin | will 346030080 vary? | 20:51 |
jaeger | no. That's the size of the ISO file | 20:52 |
jaeger | and I divide by 512 because that's the default bs for dd | 20:52 |
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jaeger | so count=675840 would work just as well | 20:54 |
melon | dd if=/dev/sdb count=$((346030080/512)) 2>/dev/null | md5sum - | 20:55 |
melon | d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e - | 20:55 |
BitPuffin | btw what odoes 2> mean | 20:55 |
BitPuffin | I know what - does | 20:55 |
jaeger | just directs stderr to null | 20:56 |
BitPuffin | ah | 20:56 |
BitPuffin | lol | 20:56 |
BitPuffin | :P | 20:56 |
jaeger | anyway, that md5sum should be 774f001e57e915aeb8deb2e98b197f34 | 20:56 |
melon | ok. I'll md5 my ISO | 20:57 |
melon | then dd again | 20:57 |
BitPuffin | gief the d | 20:57 |
BitPuffin | to the d | 20:57 |
melon | md5sum crux-3.1-rc2.iso 3320587ee982b76e411eb99b58be32d5 crux-3.1-rc2.iso | 20:57 |
BitPuffin | chrome downloader, not to be trusted | 20:58 |
melon | so the ISO was downloaded incorrectly | 20:58 |
jaeger | looks that way | 20:58 |
melon | Should have checked this first.. | 20:59 |
jaeger | It happens :) | 21:01 |
BitPuffin | easy to get lazy with that | 21:02 |
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BitPuffin | jaeger: btw how did uefi stuff go for 3.1? | 21:12 |
melon | Haven | 21:12 |
melon | aven't tried yet | 21:12 |
frinnst | holy hell, running vm's from spinning btrfs is *not* very fast | 21:15 |
BitPuffin | surprised? | 21:15 |
BitPuffin | btrfs = snail heaven | 21:15 |
frinnst | not at all, most workloads are quite rapid | 21:15 |
joacim | is it made by the french? | 21:16 |
BitPuffin | not in my experience | 21:16 |
frinnst | but yeah, i dont think ive disabled cow on that image :) | 21:16 |
BitPuffin | well that also matters quite a bit :P | 21:16 |
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cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: acpid: update to 2.0.22 | 21:30 |
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cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: [notify] gnutls: updated to 3.2.15 | 21:43 |
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jaeger | running VMs from spinning anything seems slow these days. I'm spoiled by SSDs | 21:51 |
BitPuffin | pass should be 0 on the partition that has the kernel right? | 21:55 |
BitPuffin | so if you only have / and swap | 21:56 |
BitPuffin | or is it 1? | 21:56 |
jaeger | 1 on /, 2 on everything else | 21:57 |
jaeger | 0 on filesystems that don't use e2fsprogs | 21:57 |
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thetornainbow | hey guys i'm having issues with locales, UTF-8. i have export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in .bashrc, .profile, and in /etc/locale.conf, and locale shows same. but i'm getting strange errors with special chars, or man pages. here's a screen of a man page | 22:07 |
thetornainbow | http://i.imgur.com/KEWn6uw.png | 22:08 |
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jaeger | is LESSCHARSET set? | 22:13 |
thetornainbow | nope | 22:14 |
jaeger | I sorta remember seeing something similar but I don't remember what the cause was | 22:17 |
thetornainbow | yeah i'm really not sure what i'm doing wrong. i have a feeling it's with my fonts, xfontsel only shows processing fonts, none listed, even though fc-list shows all font paths | 22:17 |
thetornainbow | but i'm using terminus | 22:17 |
frinnst | yes i think i had that | 22:22 |
frinnst | but not sure what the resolution was | 22:22 |
frinnst | 3.1? | 22:22 |
thetornainbow | 3.0 | 22:22 |
frinnst | is it only in X ? | 22:23 |
thetornainbow | no, ttys show it as well | 22:24 |
thetornainbow | it's odd isn't it? it's showing escape sequences | 22:25 |
frinnst | sorry, i have the memory of a mayfly | 22:25 |
frinnst | jue's memory is more like an elephant. perhaps he'll remember | 22:26 |
frinnst | midnight and work in the morning, zzzz | 22:26 |
thetornainbow | okay so export LESS=-R fixed it. | 22:28 |
jaeger | we removed both LESSCHARSET and LESS, that's probably why | 22:30 |
jaeger | no, wait, we didn't | 22:30 |
jaeger | it was CHARSET | 22:30 |
jaeger | ignore me, I don't know what I'm talking about | 22:30 |
jaeger | LESS is set to "-R" in /etc/profile, though | 22:30 |
thetornainbow | yeah that might be why. i mv'd profile away when i was trying to understand login shells vs non-login | 22:32 |
jaeger | ah | 22:35 |
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thetornainbow | i never moved it back :). turns out it's useful!? | 22:35 |
thetornainbow | i appreciate the work you guys put into this distro. i've only used it for a month or so, but thanks for all the fish! | 22:37 |
jaeger | Glad you like it so far | 22:37 |
thetornainbow | i do. writing Pkgfiles are pleasurable after dealing with .debs and PKGBUILDS and others..., i love the pkg utils, and httpup is a really neat tool. all very clean and simple. | 22:39 |
jaeger | pkgutils still needs some work in my opinion but in general I agree :) | 22:40 |
thetornainbow | i think that as soon as a tool doesn't need any more work, start suspecting yourself of being insane | 22:41 |
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jaeger | heh | 22:42 |
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BitPuffin | jaeger: is visudo supposed to give you an empty file? | 22:44 |
BitPuffin | I thought there was a default config | 22:45 |
BitPuffin | it was when I installed | 22:45 |
jaeger | it should not, there is | 22:45 |
BitPuffin | that's strange | 22:45 |
jaeger | does /etc/sudoers exist? | 22:45 |
jaeger | is it empty? | 22:45 |
BitPuffin | no it existed apparently | 22:46 |
BitPuffin | and contains what it should | 22:46 |
BitPuffin | is it harmful to just do vim /etc/sudoers ? | 22:46 |
BitPuffin | because they tell you not to | 22:46 |
thetornainbow | this incident will be reported | 22:46 |
jaeger | possibly. If you enter something wrong you can break sudo | 22:47 |
jaeger | if you have root access then no big deal, you fix it... but if you don't | 22:47 |
BitPuffin | ah | 22:47 |
BitPuffin | well this is with root access | 22:47 |
BitPuffin | (I'm helping melon) | 22:47 |
jaeger | is there a sudoers.tmp leftover file perhaps? | 22:49 |
BitPuffin | he misinterpreted | 22:50 |
BitPuffin | he typed vi sudo :P | 22:50 |
jaeger | ah | 22:52 |
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thetornainbow | any ideas why dwb wouldn't be picking up flash-plugin? | 23:28 |
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