IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2014-06-29

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nwehello, After I upgrade evudev I got this.. udevd specified group input unknown..05:18
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himynameisphilI have been trying to get jack and other audio apps to be able to use realtime perms with no luck. I have been told to put stuff in either /etc/security/limits.conf or /etc/security/limits.d/something.conf, but they don't take. I am starting to suspect pam isn't getting started on login, though I have files for login and su in /etc/pam.d/ Is there anything i should know about how to get CRUX and pam to work together? Or is there another w05:37
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teK__nwe: this has been discussed in #crux-dev earlier and consesus was to a `input' group08:36
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Feigrfrinnst: something to do on your vacation: http://www.brielcomputers.com/wordpress/?cat=1814:19
Feigrsolder together your own Altair 8800 replica :D14:19
frinnst:)14:27
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joacimI think he should spend his time looking for a quad core LGA775 CPU for me14:47
frinnstI might have one actually15:05
frinnstq660015:05
frinnstor its a dualcore e6300 or whatever15:05
joacimwas thinking q9550, q9500, or something similar15:06
joacimwas going to upgrade my pc with new bits and pieces, but it looks like i'll end up wasting my tax refund on new glasses instead15:07
frinnstbummer15:08
frinnstshould be easy to find a quad core 775 cpu i'd think.15:09
frinnstnot new, but still15:09
joacimthey're kinda expensive15:10
joacimi feel the money is better spent on buying a new motherboard+ram+cpu kit.15:12
joacimsince importing a q9550 is expensive, and they're kinda hard to find in norway at a reasonable price15:12
joacimI have seen people sell them for pocket change tho15:12
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frinnstyeah. or if you're price sensitive you can get amd hardware really cheap15:51
joacimhttps://www.komplett.no/k/shoplist.aspx?mode=receive&si=1402348&su=0B6B3CBC-0F90-4768-83F3-C0A82DF039D515:53
joacimwas thinking something like this15:53
joacimfor a new system15:53
joacimnot that price sensitive really15:53
joacimI'm more anal than sensitive =)15:53
jaegerI built an i5-4690 system recently, very happy with it15:54
joacimwas thinking about getting ab Xeon E3-1230 v3 too15:54
jaegerwent with mATX this time in a small case, much easier to move around when needed15:55
joacimI'm thinking the same15:55
jaegerhttp://jaeger.morpheus.net/misc/fddm3.jpg15:55
joacimlooking at how i use my current pc. the only expansion card i have in there is the graphics card15:56
joacimso mATX is moe than enough15:56
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joacimfractal design?15:56
jaegeryeah, pretty much the same for me. I sometimes use a pcie x1 capture card but rarely15:57
jaegeryes, define mini15:57
joacimwould go with Z97, but I cant find a nice board with no PCI slots15:58
joacimI just want PCIe15:58
jaegernot really much point in z97 unless you want to overclock with a k proc or some specific other feature15:58
joacimWant a Silverstone TJ08, but I think that 180mm fan might be a bit too noisy, and it is hard to find replacements15:58
joacimI don't overclock at all.15:59
jaegerThen H97's a decent way to save money15:59
jaegerhttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/zYFjNG <-- that's basically what I did16:01
jaegerthe cooler is a bit overkill but I wanted it quiet16:02
joacimmy current cooler is a bit overkill too. bought it so it would be silent, but it turned out the fan runs too slow16:02
joacimmotherboard starts beeping during boot when the fan runs slower than 600 RPM16:02
jaegeryuck16:03
joacimAMD would be fun too, but I don't see any decent mATX AM3+ motherboards around16:05
joacimhttp://cl.ly/WJnk <- current system. dust and cables.16:31
jaegerI have one of those cases, though mine's black :)16:32
joacimhttp://cl.ly/VybC <- speccy16:33
joacimI would probably buy black today. black plastic trim looks better than silver plastic trim16:37
jaegerAll my current cases are either black or gray/titanium colors, I definitely prefer dark ones16:38
joacimhttp://www5.pcmag.com/media/images/3036-coolermaster-atc-201.jpg?thumb=y16:38
joacimthis with 120mm fans would be great16:38
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nwehmm does someone know why my eth0 was renamed to enp6s0 and my eth1 was renamed to eno1 ?17:05
jaegerit's a new feature of udev/systemd called predictable network interface names17:07
jaegerhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/17:07
nwejaeger: yeah I read that yesterday, but it I mean eth1 to eno1 and eth0 enp6s0 It would be more logical if eth0 eno0 and eth1 eno117:09
jaegersubjectively, perhaps, but it doesn't work that way. There's a link in that doc to the source where the enumeration and naming is detailed17:10
jaegerthe doc also contains instructions for disabling the new behavior if you prefer17:10
joacimjaeger: wanna trade graphics card? mine has blue accents. it'll match your motherboard, ram, and psu17:11
jaegerhehe :)17:12
nweI cant decide if I should use the old way or the new way :P17:15
jaegerSince the new way is the default upstream way, I'd suggest trying it for a while. If it doesn't cause you any issues, leave it alone :)17:16
nwemaybe I should do that :)17:17
nweit?s just that it feels strange with the new names :P17:18
jaegerFor the most part I never use the device names. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but for me they're nearly irrelevent17:18
nweso you are using ethX or?17:22
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jaegerI'm using the new names17:30
nweokey17:32
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nwehmm next time a reboot my server I must connect a monitor too it  then, when It will change name om the interface..17:44
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: libreoffice: 4.2.2 -> 4.2.518:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.0]: libreoffice: port taken18:31
teK__anybody has interest in taking tkimg?18:32
teK__it's been unmaintained for quite some years18:32
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