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| trapped | when running `prt-get sysup` it fails building xorg due to the "exoxy" package being missing | 07:13 |
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| frinnst | yes it was a dependency added after 3.1 was released | 07:14 |
| frinnst | currently we dont have a way to automagically install dependencies when updating | 07:14 |
| frinnst | just do "prt-get depinst libepoxy && prt-get sysup" | 07:15 |
| trapped | i'll just install it manually later | 07:15 |
| frinnst | also you need to rebuild your ddx and input drivers | 07:15 |
| frinnst | http://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux/2014-July/003913.html | 07:15 |
| trapped | i'm not sure if the laptop i'm installing crux on shut down after completing the sysup or if its battery died | 07:15 |
| frinnst | well if you are compiling software on a laptop running on battery i know what my bet is ;) | 07:16 |
| trapped | thanks for the heads out about xorg | 07:16 |
| trapped | gonna subscribe to the mailing list | 07:16 |
| frinnst | yeah its a pretty quiet list usually | 07:17 |
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| fluffleflu | In the installation, I don't understand where do I have to add "net" for the network config. | 08:04 |
| fluffleflu | Should I exec /etc/rc.d/net? | 08:05 |
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| fluffleflu | (nevermind, I'm blind) | 08:09 |
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| Romster | fluffleflu, /etc/rc.conf in SERVICES=() should have lo and net | 09:00 |
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| Romster | suck it Russia Australia is stopping the export of beef and lamb to them due to MH17 | 09:03 |
| frinnst | haha is that a big export for you guys? | 09:04 |
| Romster | nope | 09:05 |
| Romster | mostly to USA anyways | 09:06 |
| Romster | has anyone messed with framed route over ATM before? | 09:07 |
| Romster | that's if anyone even uses ADSL in here. | 09:08 |
| frinnst | atm? | 09:08 |
| Romster | pppoe over atm | 09:08 |
| Romster | atm is a packet protocol | 09:08 |
| frinnst | ah. Im suffering acronym overload currently | 09:08 |
| Romster | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asynchronous_transfer_mode | 09:09 |
| Romster | 53 byte packets | 09:09 |
| frinnst | sounds fun. Never come across it tho | 09:09 |
| Romster | vci vpi 8/35 | 09:09 |
| Romster | everything that uses adsl or sdsl uses atm packats at the backend to the isp | 09:10 |
| Romster | i spent a tone of time calcualting the best packet size ot fill every atm cell too off my home network. | 09:11 |
| Romster | but now i need to do a framed route for a client, gonna be fun. | 09:11 |
| Romster | figured out moust of it but the configuring the ip assgined by the isp to the lan port. that's if any of the routers i got access too have that. | 09:21 |
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| waem | hello, | 10:18 |
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| waem | I am trying to make my first crux pkg. But I got a bit lost. I had already downloaded the alpine.tar.gz, placed it in /usr/local/src, wrote the Pkgfile as explained in the handbook. With source=($name.tar.gz). | 10:25 |
| waem | But he can't change to the "alpine" directory. doesn't pkgmk creates it automatically? | 10:27 |
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| waem | oh shoot | 10:29 |
| waem | I found the problem | 10:30 |
| waem | If a package is installed this way, should I preferanly use fakeroot? | 10:35 |
| waem | preferably* | 10:36 |
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| frinnst | how is the package installed? | 10:56 |
| waem | By downloading the source, writing the Pkgfile, pkgmk, pkgadd | 10:57 |
| frinnst | you should use fakeroot to build it "$ fakeroot pkgmk" | 11:00 |
| frinnst | but you still need root to install it | 11:00 |
| waem | thanks | 11:04 |
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| fluffleflu | So I need to connect to internet | 11:20 |
| fluffleflu | I modified rc.d/net with the interface on my computer | 11:20 |
| fluffleflu | started it | 11:20 |
| fluffleflu | also brought up the interface | 11:20 |
| fluffleflu | what should I do next? | 11:21 |
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| trapped | z3bra: please ping me when you finish replacing your server's HDD so i can pull your 2bwm port | 12:29 |
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| WubboZ | hey guys, hey Cyrius_ | 13:29 |
| WubboZ | i was wondering if there is someone here with some experience with freerdp and device redirection | 13:30 |
| jaeger | I use it but not the redirection, sorry | 13:33 |
| frinnst | I use it but no redirection except for ~/ | 13:35 |
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| frinnst | +home-drive and +clipboard are the only thing I use | 13:36 |
| waem | hi again, I am running crux on a laptop and sensors-detect tells me i need to control my fan through the acpi. Is there a way to accelerate my fan by hand? | 14:01 |
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| trapped | waem: through the BIOS, i suppose | 14:05 |
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| waem | trapped: thanks :). I compiled the kernel with option CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y isn't that ment to allow me to control my fan from crux? | 14:08 |
| trapped | no idea, perhaps you can find something on the kernel docs | 14:09 |
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| waem | i'll go look then. | 14:11 |
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| waem | what's the channel best practice? if I find solutions and answers for my own questions and problems should I post them? | 14:27 |
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| z3bra | trapped, http://sprunge.us/KAMB | 15:13 |
| trapped | z3bra: thanks | 15:14 |
| z3bra | trapped, ^ thisis the base64'd version | 15:14 |
| z3bra | curl -s $URL | base64 -d > 2bwm-groups.tar.gz | 15:15 |
| Rolinh | hey, a simple question about packaging: do you differentiate build dependencies from dependencies? For instance, if cmake is a build dep, you just mention it in #Depends on in the Pkgfile ? | 15:15 |
| z3bra | I'm off | 15:15 |
| z3bra | good bye guys :) | 15:15 |
| trapped | bye | 15:15 |
| Rolinh | nobody's got the answer? | 15:19 |
| jaeger | Rolinh: no, yes | 15:21 |
| Rolinh | jaeger: thanks | 15:22 |
| jaeger | np | 15:22 |
| Rolinh | jaeger: also, is there a reason for not having a control sum in the pkgfile? to make sure that we actually downloaded the right file | 15:23 |
| jaeger | because it's stored in .md5sum instead | 15:23 |
| Rolinh | ok but are you supposed to provide this information when creating a pkg ? | 15:24 |
| Rolinh | I see this file mentionned in pkgmk(8) | 15:24 |
| jaeger | It is created by pkgmk if missing | 15:25 |
| Rolinh | ok | 15:25 |
| Rolinh | thanks | 15:25 |
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| fluffleflu | Following this http://crux.nu/Wiki/UEFI I get stuck creating the ESP filesystem. | 16:00 |
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| fluffleflu | . | 16:04 |
| jaeger | The page is written for non-mac hardware. For a mac you should follow something like that link I gave yesterday instead | 16:09 |
| fluffleflu | Ok, but how do I get the package I need during the installation? | 16:12 |
| jaeger | you'll have to download and compile the hfsprogs utilities while in the chroot | 16:13 |
| fluffleflu | Hod do I accomplish that? Before I tried connecting a modem cable but ping did not work. | 16:15 |
| jaeger | the installation media has network interface modules available, make sure the module for your network card is loaded and run dhcpcd or set it up manually. then you can use wget or curl to download | 16:16 |
| jaeger | actually, curl probably isn't available at that point but wget is | 16:17 |
| fluffleflu | Ok, thanks. | 16:18 |
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| fluffleflu | ifconfig lo && ifconfig enp2s0, dhcpcd, ping not working. | 17:16 |
| fluffleflu | Any clue? | 17:16 |
| trapped | would you share your net config? | 17:16 |
| fluffleflu | ip link results? | 17:16 |
| fluffleflu | or the config file? | 17:17 |
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| fluffleflu | my /etc/rc.d/net: I only changed the "DEV" to my interface's name. | 17:19 |
| fluffleflu | It should just work by default, shouldn't it? | 17:23 |
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| WubboZ | jaeger frinnst, thanks for the info | 18:24 |
| WubboZ | perhaps any clue on where to find someone who has a bit more experience with device redirection? | 18:25 |
| WubboZ | i've tried #freerdp, but everybody there is just idling | 18:25 |
| jaeger | sorry, that would be my first guess, or google | 18:40 |
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| tilman | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5NJwS286co | 18:46 |
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| Rolinh | if I am to update the kernel, as of patch 3.12.25 which is out now, I shall basically download the patch, apply it, make all, copy vmlinuz and voilà? | 18:53 |
| tilman | ouais | 18:53 |
| Rolinh | okay | 18:54 |
| Rolinh | don't have to mind the headers | 18:54 |
| tilman | you'll want to install the modules as well though | 18:54 |
| Rolinh | sure | 18:54 |
| Rolinh | same as during install | 18:54 |
| tilman | yep | 18:54 |
| tilman | don't forget to re-run lilo if that's what you use | 18:55 |
| Rolinh | oh yep, that is true | 18:55 |
| Rolinh | that's what I use yes | 18:55 |
| Rolinh | basically testing crux in a vm to see if it's worth the switch :) | 18:55 |
| Rolinh | but I have to admit that I'm quite pleased with it for now :) | 18:56 |
| tilman | btw, usually you'll first copy your old kernel config to the new source directory and run 'make oldconfig' | 18:56 |
| Rolinh | yep | 18:57 |
| trapped | what's the standard way of writing Pkgfiles for git repo-dependent packages? | 18:58 |
| tilman | building from a moving target is horrible cause you never know what you're gonna get | 18:58 |
| tilman | :] | 18:58 |
| frinnst | Rolinh: you can just run "make install" - it will copy vmlinuz to /boot - rename your old kernel to vmlinuz.old and run lilo for you | 19:04 |
| Rolinh | frinnst: thanks for the tip :) | 19:04 |
| Rolinh | that worked fine | 19:09 |
| Rolinh | how is the process for pkg contributions in contrib repo? | 19:10 |
| Rolinh | s/how/what/ | 19:10 |
| frinnst | its a trust thing | 19:12 |
| Rolinh | so the guy that proposes a pkg gets to be the ports maintainer | 19:13 |
| frinnst | You generally apply to the contrib mailinglist. | 19:13 |
| Rolinh | okay | 19:14 |
| joacim | it is best to create and publish your own repo i think | 19:15 |
| Rolinh | but then you end up having many users with many repos | 19:16 |
| Rolinh | so why would that be best? | 19:16 |
| frinnst | because we expect some quality in contrib | 19:16 |
| joacim | it shows that you knows how to make and maintain ports | 19:16 |
| Rolinh | oh, in that sense | 19:16 |
| joacim | if your repository is any good that is | 19:17 |
| Rolinh | did not get it the first time | 19:17 |
| Rolinh | yep, sure | 19:17 |
| Rolinh | I like the simplicity of pkgfile. Even simpler that archlinux PKGBUILD :) | 19:18 |
| Rolinh | s/that/than/ | 19:18 |
| joacim | http://get.moe/ | 19:18 |
| joacim | thinking about getting a domain there | 19:18 |
| jaeger | carsandabigcrib.gimmesome.moe | 19:20 |
| trapped | joacim: i and a couple other people already got some of those | 19:25 |
| trapped | mostly short, often used word terminations obviously | 19:26 |
| trapped | we also made http://tha.tlo.li and http://ho.tlo.li - the first featuring fortune-mod and the second being about gnu/linux | 19:26 |
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| timcowchip | I've running into an interesting problem with python based packages on 3.1 | 19:51 |
| timcowchip | "ImportError: No module named gtk" | 19:51 |
| timcowchip | it didn't happen on 3.0 | 19:52 |
| timcowchip | it dosen't happen on arch or gentoo | 19:52 |
| timcowchip | I was wondering if something changed on 3.1 regarding gtk and pyhton modules | 19:53 |
| timcowchip | python | 19:53 |
| joacim | I'm guessing you have to rebuild packages that depend on python | 19:54 |
| timcowchip | thanks joacim, but I just built one and it gives the error on the first run | 19:55 |
| timcowchip | I have both python and python 3 installed | 19:56 |
| joacim | did you rebuild pygtk? | 19:56 |
| timcowchip | I'll try that, thanks | 19:58 |
| jaeger | yeah, that means python can't find its gtk module, which is part of pygtk | 19:58 |
| timcowchip | ok that makes sense | 19:59 |
| timcowchip | it worked thanks again :) | 20:03 |
| timcowchip | brb | 20:07 |
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| timcowchip | found this in arch's AUR https://bitbucket.org/timcowchip/crux-ports/src/ac3ea77ec5dc60a3554b64af7f4c2cbfbed45fc3/simple-gmail-notifier/?at=master | 20:24 |
| timcowchip | for anyone interested in gmail notification | 20:25 |
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| timcowchip | just started my 4+ hour download of oxygen-icons | 22:30 |
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| u7knv9h | in the terminal i can't display some characters, like マ and █, what packages i need to install to display them correctly? | 22:50 |
| u7knv9h | and using openbox i have two more pixel (1368x768 instead of 1366x768), how do i fix that? | 22:52 |
| u7knv9h | still haven't tried other wm/de so i have no idea if with others i have the same problem | 22:52 |
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| frinnst | you need a utf8 terminal and you need to set up your locales | 23:00 |
| frinnst | and set $LANG | 23:01 |
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| trapped | z3bra: how's the maintenance going? i'm in need of some pkgfiles from your collection (a mirror would be nice if possible) | 23:56 |
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