IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2014-07-27

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jaegerso much rage in linux development land00:37
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trappedso webkit-gtk3 has been compiling for 8 hours now01:02
trappedi just hope it doesn't fail at this point01:03
timcowchiphttp://crux.ster.so/packages/3.1/webkit-gtk3%232.4.3-1.pkg.tar.gz01:05
trappedthank you, i'll use that package in case it fails01:05
trappedit's finally done01:22
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diverseoh yay, linus rants, these are alway fun to read08:45
diversejaeger: well in particular, writing kernel code has serious and limiting requirements. If gcc 4.9 decides to crap on itself and ignore these requirements, it's unacceptable for kernel development. So it's pretty much expected that there is rage in this.08:55
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Romsterwhat the09:02
Romsterhas that been going on for ages or linus just found out about it.09:11
diversewell in a later post he said he can't reproduce the problem with 4.8.3 on his machine, so I think it was just recently discovered09:13
nrxtx?09:14
Romsterthe tone of it though. you'd tink this be a ignorant gcc upstream issue that's been reported and they replied with a wontfix.09:14
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Romsternew webkit new ffmpeg new gstreamer new wine on their way09:20
Romsteri should say webkit-gtk2 and webkit-gtk309:22
nrxtxuh that will take some time building all :D09:28
Romsteryeah j24 here09:29
Romsterstill a few hours worth09:30
Romstermay as well eat while i wait.09:35
tilmanteK__: slim's download url is broken. probably due to the berlios shutdown(?)09:41
teK__probably09:42
teK__meh09:42
tilmanhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/slim.berlios/09:45
tilmanBrought to you by: berliosrobot09:45
teK__will fix later, thanks09:45
teK__with all the reports from you, you might join us again09:46
teK__:}09:46
tilman:>09:46
tilmancrux.nu doesn't nightly check ports URLs for 404s and the like, does it?09:47
tilmanmaybe it should. and also verify that the stuff it downloads isn't HTML pages09:47
teK__in fact, it does09:48
teK__core {core,opt,contrib,compat-32}09:49
teK__s/core/for/109:49
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libjpeg: replaced by libjpeg-turbo10:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libmng: updated to 2.0.210:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libpng: updated to 1.6.710:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: gvim: upate to 7.4.9410:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: apr: update to 1.5.0, apr-utils: update to 1.5.310:15
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teK__done thx.10:16
teK__c10:16
tilmanteK__: could you please change the url for my ports repo?10:17
tilmanteK__: to: code-monkey.de::tilmans-crux-ports/10:18
tilmansince i don't have ssh access to the crux.nu one anymore10:18
Romsterwhy is cruxbot demented.10:19
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trappedwhere's the cruxbot source code?11:00
teK__tilman: ok11:08
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: mpv: 0.4.1 -> 0.4.211:22
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tilmanteK__: is cruxbot still run by sepen?11:30
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teK__more or less11:33
teK__maybe I have time to fix this, too11:33
teK__we'll see11:33
teK__or better: you'll see :p11:34
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nrxtxRomster: did you commit the fix for docbook.xml containing invalid uid/gid?12:06
Romsterno i haven't yet, but in the process of a major gstreamer framework commit12:07
nrxtxah ok :)12:07
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Romsteri'll do it shortly.12:08
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nwehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQAtOavovA12:24
frinnstlol, idag?12:31
Feigrfrinnst: http://www.tv4.se/nyheterna/klipp/%C3%B6versv%C3%A4mning-p%C3%A5-skanstulls-t-bana-279331712:44
trappedi'm trying to deal with a LaCie Little Disk12:44
trappedit shows up in lsusb and dmesg, though it won't show up in fdisk -l12:45
trappedinput: LaCie    little disk (button) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb5/5-7/5-7:1.1/0003:059F:1006.0009/input/input2512:45
trappedhid-generic 0003:059F:1006.0009: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Device [LaCie    little disk (button)] on usb-0000:00:1d.7-7/input112:45
frinnstomg12:58
frinnsttrapped: probably missing usb-storage12:59
frinnstsearch for CONFIG_USB_STORAGE12:59
trappedfrinnst: i doubt it's due to that missing config as i'm having the same problem on ubuntu and arch linux boxes as well13:06
trappedthe system log reported something about MTP on arch, so i removed libmtp and now i'll try rebooting to see if it works13:07
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frinnstah, not a mass storage device then.13:09
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trappedalright13:15
trappedremoving libmtp solved the issue13:15
teK__tilman: are your x11-fonts-smooth any good?13:23
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tilmandepends on your eyesight ;)13:29
tilmanit's very small13:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] gstreamer renamed to gstreamer-compat13:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] gstreamer1 1.2.4 -> gstreamer 1.4.013:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] gst-plugins-base renamed to gst-plugins-base-compat13:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] gst-plugins-base1 1.2.4 -> gst-plugins-base 1.4.0, dependency rename gstreamer1 -> gstreamer13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: harfbuzz-icu: 0.9.32 -> 0.9.3313:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: ffmpeg: 2.2.4 -> 2.313:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: ffmpeg-compat: 0.10.12 -> 0.10.1413:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-good -> gst-plugins-good-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-good1 1.2.4 -> gst-plugins-good 1.4.013:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-bad -> gst-plugins-bad-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-bad1 1.2.4 -> gst-plugins-bad 1.4.013:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-ugly -> gst-plugins-ugly-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-ugly1 1.2.4 -> gst-plugins-ugly 1.4.013:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-ffmpeg: changed dependency name gst-plugins-base -> gst-plugins-base-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-python -> gst-python-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gstreamer-vaapi -> gstreamer-vaapi-compat13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gstreamer-vaapi1 0.5.8 -> gstreamer-vaapi 0.5.9pre13:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: libnice: changed dependency name gstreamer1 -> gstreamer-compat13:31
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trappedanyone has a ttf-freefont port? there aren't any on the portdb13:43
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: alsa-lib-32: 1.0.27.2 -> 1.0.2813:45
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: harfbuzz-32: 0.9.32 -> 0.9.3313:45
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: libdrm-32: 2.4.54 -> 2.4.5513:45
Romsternrxtx, docbook-xml fixed13:50
trappedRomster: mind checking the upower installation as well? it tries to get docbook.xsl as a network resource with the -nonet flag13:52
Romsterheck i am pretty much doing a ton of stuff here as it is. but i'll try.13:53
trappednono, if you're busy it's ok, it's not that important13:53
trappedjust telling you that there's a little issue13:53
Romsteri'll look at it though just busy atm.13:53
Romsteri read it earlier up ^13:53
Romsterfrinnst> poke Romster about it13:54
Romsteri saw that then read it.13:54
Romsterso as long as i get a mention i'll make sure to read it.13:54
trappedah right you also mentioned that docbook is crap13:54
Romsterno jaeger i think said that.13:55
Romsterbut i agree there.13:55
Romstercompiling wine and then i got to see if i missed anything else with my changes.13:57
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: wine: 1.7.22 -> 1.7.2314:04
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: xorg-libxext-32: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.314:10
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: vala: 0.24.0 -> 0.25.114:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: postgresql: 9.3.4 -> 9.3.514:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: slim: update URL14:59
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trappedanyone has a thermald port'16:28
joacimisn't the hardware capable of doing that by itself?16:40
trappedit doesn't seem so16:44
trappedthough i solved already with a little script16:45
joacimcpus and gpus should be able to throttle down on their own16:48
joacimor just shut down the computer when it gets too hot16:48
trappedthe cpufreq source (at mizrahi.com.ve) is really really slow16:49
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nrxtxRom.ster what a lot of updates :D17:02
diverseRomster is pretty dedicated with port maintenance17:18
Romsterhad to be done i kept putting it off.17:21
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timcowchipwill the #depends formerly known as gstreamer1 be pulled in instead?17:53
timcowchipwill the depends formerly known as gstreamer1 be pulled in instead?17:53
timcowchipoops, start over17:54
timcowchipso what happens to all the "gstreamer" in #depends: line in Pkgfiles?17:54
timcowchipwill the depends formerly known as gstreamer1 be pulled in instead?17:54
timcowchipprt-get dependent --all gst-plugins-base17:58
timcowchiptrojita17:58
timcowchippocketsphinx17:58
timcowchipqt417:58
timcowchipgst-plugins-ugly17:58
timcowchipgst-plugins-good17:58
timcowchipgst-ffmpeg17:58
timcowchipgst-python17:58
timcowchipswfdec17:58
timcowchipgstreamer-vaapi17:58
timcowchipgst-plugins-bad17:58
timcowchipall need to be rebuilt?17:59
timcowchipall so Crux can use Arch-like nomeclature for a package?18:01
timcowchipmy question is "what was going to go wrong if it was left the way it was"?18:05
timcowchipwhat's next, python-compat?18:24
timcowchipI see the source for what was gstreamer1 is "http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/$name/$name-$version.tar.xz"18:30
timcowchipwhere name=gstreamer18:30
timcowchipso I guess everything started backing up there18:31
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timcowchipactually it already was that way18:36
timcowchipnope........can't see any good reason for doing this18:37
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timcowchipso my non-crotchity uncantankerous question is "will prt-get sysuo && prt-get update -fr 'revdep' take care of this?"18:42
timcowchipSYSUP18:42
timcowchipsysup18:42
timcowchipWarning: Couldn't delete gstreamer1 (Directory not empty)18:45
timcowchipafter "ports -u"18:45
timcowchipshould I have done "prtwash -a" first?18:46
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timcowchiphi everyone this is timcowchip with today's CruxTip. open a terminal as root and enter "prtwash -a && ports -u && prt-get  sysup && prt-get update -fr 'revdep' then go outside and enjoy the summer un;ess you're in Australia, in which case stay inside and stare at your terminal.18:54
timcowchipunless18:55
timcowchipunless you're in Australia, because its winter there19:03
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u7knv9hi want to connect a usb drive, which packages should i install to be able mounting it? and for automounting?19:28
timcowchipis it ntfs?19:30
u7knv9hno19:30
timcowchipext4?19:34
timcowchipif its ext4 I don't think you need to install anything19:37
timcowchipuse /etc/fstab for automount19:37
timcowchipbrb19:39
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frinnstvfat or ntfs probably19:42
frinnstfor ntfs I usually use ntfs-3g (fuse) and for fat32 dosfstools and a kernel driver for the fs19:43
u7knv9hdon't i need udisks?19:46
u7knv9hfor ext4 how do i do?19:47
frinnstwell it depends on how you mount it i guess?19:47
frinnstif you intend to use a DE like gnome or whatever19:47
frinnsti just usually mount stuff from a terminal19:47
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frinnstmount /dev/whatever /to/destination19:47
frinnstand by "<frinnst> if you intend to use a DE like gnome or whatever" i mean if you want it to automagically mount when you plug it in19:48
u7knv9hoh, i was just wondering if there was a way to mount it without doing mount (i don't use a DE), but do mount isn't a problem for me19:51
u7knv9hif one day i come to use an ntfs drive, mount would work (if i install ntfs-3g) ?19:51
frinnstyou use # ntfs-3g /dev/device /where/ever19:52
frinnstand fusermount -u /where/ever to unmount19:52
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timcowchiprm: cannot remove '/usr/ports/work/qca/pkg/usr/share/qca/certs/README': No such file or directory19:57
timcowchipoh well its all got to be rebuilt now anyway19:57
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u7knv9hand with dosfstools?19:58
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timcowchipconfigure: Requested 'gstreamer-1.0 >= 1.4.0' but version of GStreamer is 1.2.420:47
timcowchipconfigure: error: no gstreamer-1.0 >= 1.4.0 (GStreamer) found20:47
timcowchipI have to ask again was this name change necessary?20:48
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timcowchipI guess the question is rhetorical as in "not getting an aswer'21:04
timcowchipanswer21:04
timcowchipas you where21:04
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timcowchipor redundant as in duplicate and uneccessary21:05
timcowchipRomster: please fix what you broke with your incessant twaeking21:06
timcowchipor is it tweaking?21:07
timcowchipor twerking?21:08
frinnstjerking21:28
frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNvvxCRqfI21:28
timcowchipmonkey business21:29
timcowchiphow does libnice have both a gstreamer and gstreamer-compat dependency?21:52
timcowchipI assume Romster has all this working on his system or he wouldn't have pushed it21:53
timcowchipam I making an ass out of u and me?21:54
nrxtxsysup was fine here21:59
timcowchipnrxtx did you have both gstreamer and gstreamer1 installed?22:03
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timcowchipor any of the gst-plugins?22:04
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nrxtxboth + base plugins22:08
timcowchippkgadd: listed file(s) already installed (use -f to ignore and overwrite)22:09
timcowchipprt-get: error while install22:09
timcowchipfrom trying to install gstreamer-compatinstall22:09
timcowchipnrxtx: thanx for the encouragement22:10
timcowchip-- Packages where update failed22:11
timcowchipgstreamer22:11
timcowchipgst-plugins-base22:11
timcowchipgst-libav22:11
timcowchipgst-plugins-good22:11
timcowchipgst-plugins-ugly22:11
timcowchipgst-plugins-bad22:11
timcowchip-- Packages updated22:11
timcowchipgstreamer-vaapi22:11
timcowchipmy sysup results22:11
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timcowchipRomster: http://pastebin.com/pwLdrKye fix please22:16
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timcowchipnm I rep[aced "#depends: gstreamer1" and "#depends: gstreamer" with "#depends: gstreamer-compat" in all my ports22:47
Romstertimcowchip, if you read the mailng list it says to remove gstreamer1 gst-plugins-{good,bad,ugly,vaapi}1 sysup the rest then if needed prt-get depinst gstreamer-compat and gst-plugins-{good,bad,ugly,vaapi}-compat22:48
frinnsthttp://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux/2014-July/003928.html22:48
Romstertimcowchip, the reason for doing this is to later remove the -compat ports22:49
timcowchipah then I need to make gstreamer work as in build and install22:51
timcowchipbut http://pastebin.com/pwLdrKye22:51
Romstersudo prt-get remove gstreamer1 gst-plugins-{good,bad,ugly,vaapi}122:52
Romsterprt-get sysup22:52
timcowchipok22:52
Romsteri'd check with revdep if you really need any of the compat stuff22:52
Romsterfew ports may need tweaking but having the ports already on the system will just work still.22:53
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trappedhi everyone22:56
timcowchipre-re-re-subscribed to the mailing list22:57
trappedreally quick question: on CRUX, where am i supposed to put module loading scripts? /etc/rc.modules?22:57
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timcowchipif "/sbin/depmod -a" I believe so23:02
timcowchip"to later remove the -compat ports" seems like a pretty good reason to rename gstreamer1 to gstreamer23:03
timcowchipto answer my own rant23:03
timcowchiptrapped: if "/sbin/depmod -a" doesn't already load the module, I believe so23:13
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trappedi hope i can pull off some power saving or this laptop's battery won't last me for the whole train ride tomorrow afternoon23:24
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trappedseems like /etc/rc.modules either didn't run or my module unloaded itself23:47
pidsleywhat did you put in /etc/rc.modules?23:58
trappeda modprobe call23:59

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