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| darfo | ran into an interesting chicken-and-egg | 04:52 |
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| darfo | upgraded a VM with 32-bit CRUX 2.8 to 64-bit CRUX 3.1 | 04:53 |
| darfo | for some reason glibc-32 didn't get installed | 04:53 |
| darfo | can't build glibc-32 without glibc-32: | 04:54 |
| darfo | /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory | 04:54 |
| darfo | # include <gnu/stubs-32.h> | 04:55 |
| darfo | mounted up the ISO and pkgadd glibc-32 and all is good | 04:55 |
| darfo | my vendor supplied 32-bit binaries run find and a I don't have to | 04:59 |
| darfo | spend a couple of days rebuilding the test DHCP and BIND software and data. yay! | 05:00 |
| darfo | s/find/fine | 05:00 |
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| tilman | darfo: i'm not sure that's supposed to work. most likely not supported anyway | 06:14 |
| tilman | good to know you made it work though =) | 06:14 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: claws-mail: update to 3.10.1 | 08:39 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: claws-mail-themes: update to 20140629 | 08:39 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: cmatrix: update source url | 08:39 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: Merge branch '3.0' into 3.1 | 08:39 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: lxmusic: Taken over (prologic) | 08:48 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: lxpanel: Taken over (prologic) | 08:48 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: pcmanfm: Taken over (prologic) | 08:48 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: lxmenu-data (NEW): freedesktop.org desktop menus for LXDE | 08:48 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.0]: lxterminal (NEW): VTE-based terminal emulator (part of LXDE) | 08:48 |
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| prologic | odd | 08:49 |
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| jaeger | just watched the LAS review, seemed totally fair to me | 13:19 |
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| ^7heo_ | is the site down, or is it me? | 15:55 |
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| jaeger | It seems to be, yes | 16:00 |
| ^7heo_ | :) | 16:01 |
| ^7heo_ | jaeger: anything that can be done about it? | 16:14 |
| jaeger | Not as far as I know, sorry. We don't know why the host is down but it seems to be more than just crux.nu | 16:15 |
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| gkagan | is crux.nu down? | 16:54 |
| frinnst | yes, the datacenter seems completely down | 16:57 |
| frinnst | someone probably cut the wrong fibre pair | 16:57 |
| Rotwang | hue hue | 16:58 |
| gkagan | Thanks for the info. Is there anywhere I can monitor the status or is it best to try again later? | 16:58 |
| Rotwang | while sleep 5; do wget crux.nu; done | 16:59 |
| ^7heo_ | huhu | 17:21 |
| ^7heo_ | OEB here | 17:21 |
| ^7heo_ | o/ | 17:21 |
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| tilman | frinnst! | 17:36 |
| tilman | you must drive over and fix things! | 17:36 |
| frinnst | tilman: i dont work there! :) | 17:53 |
| tilman | but you work in the same city. how far can it possibly be! | 18:13 |
| frinnst | no, not the same city. 140km away | 18:13 |
| analatheist | Is anybody familiar with parsing multipart/form-data here? | 18:13 |
| analatheist | I'm seeing something wird: browsers and curl don't send the boundary in the POST. And some googling tells me they should. | 18:13 |
| analatheist | weird* | 18:13 |
| frinnst | crux is hosted in kalmar, i live in v�stervik | 18:13 |
| frinnst | and i think charlie is busy with other things rather than being a nice host to me if i visit :) | 18:14 |
| tilman | oops, thought you were located in kalmar as well | 18:58 |
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| diverse | has anyone heard of Sailfish OS? | 22:21 |
| diverse | as an alternative to android | 22:21 |
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| BitPuffin | jaeger: yeah pretty fair | 22:31 |
| BitPuffin | why is the crux website down | 22:31 |
| BitPuffin | too much traffic from las review? | 22:31 |
| diverse | we got reviewed by those linux wannabes? | 22:33 |
| BitPuffin | haha yes | 22:34 |
| BitPuffin | well they aren't really wannabes | 22:34 |
| BitPuffin | Chris has a background in gentoo | 22:34 |
| diverse | it's just the way they talk, they act like they know what they are talking about, but half the time, they just blabbering | 22:35 |
| BitPuffin | I get that from Matt quite a bit | 22:36 |
| BitPuffin | but chris is a former sysadmin and everything | 22:36 |
| dougl | I wanna see this crux... sounds like a os for script babies | 22:36 |
| BitPuffin | so it's not like he doesn't know anything | 22:36 |
| dougl | there is a script for everything? | 22:37 |
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| frinnst | Its down because some jackass dug up the fibre to the datacenter where crux is hosted | 22:50 |
| frinnst | the entire datacenter is down. an earlier estimate suggested things should be up and running soonish | 22:51 |
| diverse | ouch | 22:51 |
| BitPuffin | frinnst: that fucking sucks :/ | 23:03 |
| dougl | or just sucks is good too | 23:03 |
| dougl | BitPuffin, you gonna give this crux a try? | 23:04 |
| BitPuffin | dougl: already use crux | 23:05 |
| diverse | rofl | 23:05 |
| BitPuffin | just want my vps provider to update the iso | 23:05 |
| dougl | Just the way they ohh'd and ahh'd at the install makes me curious... I wanna see the docs. | 23:08 |
| BitPuffin | they ooh'd and ahh'd? | 23:09 |
| dougl | on las. | 23:10 |
| BitPuffin | well yeah I watched live | 23:10 |
| BitPuffin | how did they ooh and ahh? | 23:10 |
| dougl | make menuconfig was like some foreign taboo command - thot you said you saw it? | 23:12 |
| dougl | commented how it was more hard core than arch | 23:12 |
| diverse | that actually sounds like what they would say. Another reason not to take them seriously. | 23:12 |
| dougl | ? | 23:12 |
| dougl | coming back yet? | 23:12 |
| dougl | I would not mind something home rolled with custom flags etc | 23:13 |
| dougl | just for a cups server | 23:13 |
| dougl | originally wanted to do it on a odroid U3 but no arm flavour | 23:15 |
| diverse | There is a third-party ARM support, talk to pitillo about it | 23:16 |
| dougl | sweet... thanks diverse | 23:16 |
| dougl | I have a solid state storage device for the U3 that is crazy fast... would not mind seeing a command prompt seconds after hitting the power button... | 23:18 |
| BitPuffin | diverse: well it's pretty uncommon these days so they are playing to their audience | 23:18 |
| BitPuffin | sucks ass that the review episode was named for owncloud though | 23:19 |
| jaeger | I'm glad they're doing the show and enjoying what they do | 23:20 |
| dougl | oh yeah - better than Leo Laporte | 23:21 |
| BitPuffin | fuck Leo | 23:21 |
| BitPuffin | in the head | 23:21 |
| dougl | BitPuffin, you are harsh - lol, relax :P | 23:22 |
| diverse | BitPuffin: yeah that "playing to their audience" is an example of what they shouldn't be doing | 23:22 |
| BitPuffin | diverse: that's literally how all media works but ok | 23:23 |
| BitPuffin | dougl: no but he's an asshole | 23:23 |
| BitPuffin | and doesn't no shit | 23:23 |
| BitPuffin | know* | 23:23 |
| dougl | "playing to their audience" I don't understand, they were being patronizing or some thing other than sincere ? | 23:23 |
| BitPuffin | It's late ok | 23:23 |
| BitPuffin | dougl: well no that they know their audience probably doesn't compile their own kernel much so they make a little thing about it like woa jokingly | 23:24 |
| dougl | BitPuffin, yes - a complete idiot who can only read what is on the teleprompter | 23:24 |
| jaeger | I thought they were pretty accurate and fair. And every show plays to its audience to some extent or it doesn't get watched :)\ | 23:24 |
| diverse | BitPuffin: if all media was like that, then everything would be fox news. | 23:25 |
| BitPuffin | diverse: not really, fox news are brainwashing their viewers into believing what fox news tell them | 23:25 |
| BitPuffin | jaeger: exactly | 23:25 |
| BitPuffin | dougl: his rant about linux isn't for inexperienced users was fucking bullshit | 23:26 |
| BitPuffin | just because he listened to his fuckface irc chatroom telling him not to use unity and purging it and installing another desktop and doing a bunch of shit | 23:26 |
| BitPuffin | and some things not working because of that | 23:26 |
| BitPuffin | yeah because grandma would totally purge unity in the terminal first thing she does | 23:27 |
| BitPuffin | definitely means linux is only for tinkerers right? | 23:27 |
| BitPuffin | fuck thay guy | 23:27 |
| BitPuffin | in the skull | 23:27 |
| BitPuffin | </rant> | 23:27 |
| diverse | jaeger: they are just doing it for the "entertainment" and less about what's going on out there, so they can get more viewers. | 23:28 |
| jaeger | I haven't watched every episode but it seems to me like they do a good job of showing off a LOT of stuff | 23:28 |
| BitPuffin | it's an ad driven show | 23:28 |
| BitPuffin | what do you expect | 23:28 |
| BitPuffin | I think they have a good balance | 23:28 |
| diverse | yeah and a reason I don't take them seriously | 23:29 |
| BitPuffin | if they were only being educating then nobody would watch | 23:29 |
| BitPuffin | so yeah they are also being entertaining | 23:29 |
| dougl | They are definitly a good source of technical entertainment... I wish I was in a position to support JB more | 23:29 |
| jaeger | to me wanting to make some money and use/show off linux aren't mutually exclusive | 23:29 |
| BitPuffin | jaeger: I did feel like he was mostly reading the website though in the review :/ | 23:29 |
| jaeger | there was a bit of that, yeah, but at least he did poke around with it a bit (screenshots, etc.) | 23:30 |
| BitPuffin | yeah | 23:30 |
| jaeger | besides, it's only half the story, there's still the interview tomorrow | 23:30 |
| BitPuffin | and a little bit of history at least | 23:30 |
| BitPuffin | yup | 23:31 |
| BitPuffin | I'll try to remember to come on | 23:31 |
| diverse | I rather listen to what the BSD Now guys have to say, since they are pretty intellectual about what they say and with little buzz as possible | 23:31 |
| BitPuffin | sure, the show can be a bit boring at times though | 23:32 |
| BitPuffin | not so much because they are talking about boring stuff | 23:32 |
| BitPuffin | just that they aren't always very enthusiastic sounding | 23:32 |
| diverse | then skip to the interesting parts | 23:32 |
| BitPuffin | well no | 23:32 |
| BitPuffin | I listen to all of it | 23:32 |
| BitPuffin | though I am very behind on my podcasts | 23:32 |
| jaeger | I guess I'd sum up my opinion by saying they do a good job of introducing you to things without trying to teach you everything about them at the same time | 23:34 |
| diverse | hahaha | 23:34 |
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| dougl | jaeger, that sounds like a dangling carrot - lol | 23:39 |
| jaeger | Well, to some extent that's an apt comparison | 23:40 |
| dougl | ... I still want to see them do an in depth on sickbeard config | 23:40 |
| jaeger | To get you to look at something like CRUX but not try to make you an expert in 15 minutes | 23:40 |
| BitPuffin | jaeger: well they also do howto linux where they go more in depth | 23:40 |
| jaeger | maybe so but I'm just referring to the short format stuff like the CRUX review | 23:40 |
| jaeger | It's a teaser, so to speak | 23:40 |
| diverse | that sounds about right | 23:41 |
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