IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2014-08-08

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Romsterdamn Russians now putting a 1 year ban on imports of food.02:17
RomsterUkraine should go fix them rebels up02:17
diverseRomster: remember those youtube videos with russians driving?02:24
Romsteryeah02:33
RomsterVladimir Putin needs to step down and the people vote for a new president.02:36
RomsterPutin announced that he would seek a third, non-consecutive term as President in the 2012 presidential election, an announcement which led to large-scale protests in many Russian cities. He won the election in March 2012 and is serving a six-year term.02:38
Romstergreat02:38
Romsterso got his sorry arse until 201802:39
Romsteronly mad because they put a 1 year ban on imports from Australia and other countries.02:41
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dkobyRomster, how politics is related to linux distro?05:18
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diversebecause this channel doesn't care if you go offtopic06:53
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frinnsthola!07:30
diversehey frinnst07:34
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: dev86: updated to 0.16.2108:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: p5-extutils-depends: updated to 0.30908:13
sepenteK_: thanks for your email08:13
Romsterdkoby, i do a ton of linux stuff in here i don't see any of your work?08:13
teK_np08:13
sepenRomster: a ton of tons08:13
Romsterand i'm not the only one that goes off topic. we all pretty much do in here.08:13
Romsterhi sepen08:13
Romsterand teK_08:14
sepenmorning08:14
Romsterfinished work on a friday evening.08:14
teK_uwhy should Putin step down? There are worse08:14
Romsterprobably.08:14
diverseI love this happy-go-lucky offtopic channel :)08:15
Romsterlol08:15
teK_my favourite off-topic topic is frinnst hatin'08:15
teK_but that happens mostly via -dev :p08:15
Romsterhehe08:15
diverseteK_: talk to him about java and jdk from oracle, he will start hating immediately08:16
Romsteropenssl za will be next. :D08:16
teK_I mean personal hate :>08:16
dkobypolitics is dirty thing, i think that stuff like that should not be discussed on channel related to open source, linux, etc08:16
teK_the see me maintainin', the hatin'08:17
diverseteK_: I haven't seen that side of frinnst before08:17
teK_*they08:17
teK_nah, frinnst is awesome.08:17
frinnstI LOVE YOU TEK08:23
teK_I KNOW, HONEY08:23
teK_on the other hand, it's a bit risky not knowing how I look etc. (so this has to be real love!)08:24
teK_I know, at least, the looks of you midle finger :D08:25
diversehahahaha08:25
teK_*your08:26
diverseagain, I love this happy-go-lucky offtopic channel :)08:26
frinnsthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_%28gesture%29#mediaviewer/File:Givingthefinger.jpg08:26
teK_oh now we switched to anonymous finger giving. Too late, buddy, too late.08:27
frinnst:(08:28
diverseah, you got to give frinnst a chance08:28
diverse:P08:29
teK_maybe.08:29
diverseSo, anyone trackball mouse users?08:33
teK_Romster08:34
teK_is08:34
Romsterthis is amusing08:34
Romsterwhy would i use a trackball mouse?08:35
frinnstFeigrim uses one at work08:35
teK_thought so? :)08:36
Feigrimtrackball rocks08:37
FeigrimI have a Logitech M57008:37
diverserecently I got the logitech m570 trackball, as Feigrim08:37
frinnstthe logitech m570 is an effective frinnst repellant08:38
frinnsti cant use Feigrim box any more :(08:38
Feigrimfrinnst just hasn't seen the light yet and joined the brotherhood of the trackball08:39
diverseIt takes a bit of time to get used to. I'm still trying to master the thumb trackball for better precision08:39
FeigrimI've had it for quite some time now, even taken it home a couple of times and played games with it. No FPS or anything but things like Diablo 3 and Divinity: Original Sin work great08:40
diverseI stop playing FPS games, I just play with emulators on my machine. I heard you can get pretty good with trackball to the point you can even draw with it if you wanted to08:43
diverseteK_: you also got another piece to get frinnst hating again; show him a picture of the m570 :P08:45
Feigrimdiverse: I got from trackball at work to mouse at home and I don't even think about it anymore, it becomes natural08:50
diverseI'm still a newbie, so I hope to get to that point.08:51
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diverseFeigrim: it's good to hear your feedback about it too08:56
Feigrimbattery life is great too, have had it for over a year and still haven't changed battery08:57
diversevery nice08:57
diversehow often you use the mouse daily?08:58
Feigrimall day at work08:58
Feigrimso mon-fri08:58
diverse40 hours a week or so?08:58
Feigrimmaybe not 40 hours total usage but I do work full time08:59
Feigrimand it's the only mouse/trackball I use at work08:59
diverseand I assume you take it home on some weekends to enjoy it? :)09:00
Feigrimyep09:00
diversefrinnst: join the trackball brotherhood, you know you want too. Join us! :D09:02
teK_what's a m570, diverse?09:04
diverseteK_: the model of the trackball mouse that Feigrim and I have09:04
teK_heh09:04
diverseteK_: this picture will give him nightmares http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81pJpXN1w2L._SL1500_.jpg09:07
teK_gawd09:08
teK_make it go away09:08
diverse:)09:11
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AlexRussiaRomster: yo,lol, if putin not president here is not mean he do not be somewhere around current president... :D10:09
AlexRussiaRomster: and if you around it something like you are president :D10:09
RomsterMH17 shooting no one is helping to get the stuff done, tampered with evidence.10:10
Romsterit's a god damn terrorist act10:10
Romsterand it's also shadowing MH37010:11
AlexRussiaRomster: MH17? @_@10:11
Romsterhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_1710:11
Romsterhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_37010:12
Romsterand then we havne't heard anything from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster for a while now.10:14
Romsterlike it didn't exist.10:14
AlexRussiahaven't*10:15
AlexRussiaRomster: Chernobul too did not exist, you know :D10:16
AlexRussiaRomster: Chernobyl*10:17
Romsteryeah i remember that one too. that's still leaking radiation.10:20
AlexRussiaRomster: yep, and currently now nobody cares about it....because revolution is more fun10:21
Romsterblowing up a civilian jet and then tampering with evidence and now the sanctions and banning of imports.10:22
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AlexRussiaRomster: than clean up radioactive places and fix old sarcafag10:23
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Romsterhow many people is he gonna f*^k over.10:23
AlexRussiaRomster: he is who? @_@10:24
Romsterit'll be too big of a job and fish are already detected with radiation10:24
Romsterputin10:24
Romsterthe extremists and the Ukraine fighting, and putin does nothing.10:24
Romsterall the people being killed... such a sad world.10:25
AlexRussiaRomster: he? he will never die....10:25
AlexRussiaRomster: something like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eHh4GcJMQ10:28
Romsterpretty much10:31
AlexRussia:)10:36
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diverseAlexRussia: there is one way. You sneak poison in his morning coffee :P10:39
AlexRussiadiverse: uhm, and he let dog check coffee ;)10:39
diversemake a poison that is immune to anything but humans :P10:40
frinnst(chockolate)10:41
frinnstor how the fuck you spell it in english10:41
diversechocolate10:41
Romsteri'm listening to Rhapsody of Fire10:41
AlexRussiadiverse: lol, poison is even not originally, in this country if you try poison the president, its like call hell10:42
Romsterchocolate10:42
AlexRussiafrinnst: you are not english-man? @_@10:42
Romsteroh diverse beat me to it10:42
frinnstno, swedish10:42
AlexRussiaRomster: ^10:43
AlexRussiameh, weechat is power :D10:43
AlexRussiabut here still no one good jabber plugin :D10:43
diverseAlexRussia: use bitlebee10:44
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AlexRussiadiverse: it seems like you have good, long rope for shot in your foot....10:45
diverseAlexRussia: what do you mean by specifically?10:46
diverse*by that10:46
AlexRussiadiverse: okay, bitlebee is like you trying coming out in window when door is open, understand? @_@10:46
diverseoh hehehe10:47
AlexRussiadiverse: yes,yes :D10:47
dkobyAlexRussia, is using jabber plugin in irc client not the same?10:47
teK_bitlbee is awesome10:47
diverseAlexRussia: but this is a good bitlebee, it serves you, rather than stings you10:48
AlexRussiadkoby: it not support rooms :(10:48
dkobytry bitlbee anyway like suggested)10:48
AlexRussiadiverse: lol, but it seems like window in my example :D10:48
AlexRussiahehe10:49
diversehttp://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html10:50
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diverseAlexRussia: ^be careful not to get stinged ;)11:04
AlexRussiaguys, what i need to do, if i want save /boot on diffrent partition?11:04
AlexRussiai guess, i need make dir /boot in my install partition and after install crux fix /etc/fstab , right?11:05
AlexRussiaoh, i see, handbook talk about it...11:06
AlexRussiadiverse: wtf is it? http://i.imgur.com/mQj8CYW.png11:13
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AlexRussia...11:44
AlexRussiahow i could kill zombie process of virtualbox?11:45
AlexRussiajust something wrong, i kill virtual box and get one zombie and loved partition where was saved virtual drive11:50
AlexRussialocked*11:50
AlexRussia...11:51
AlexRussianobody use vbox here, yep? @_@11:51
teK_just ask, maybe can someone can help11:52
AlexRussiai just asked11:52
AlexRussiaidk what do11:52
AlexRussiafs just blocked and can't be unmounted11:52
teK_what is a loved partition11:53
AlexRussiateK_: locked*11:54
teK_the hard way of killing a process is sending it sigkill with kill -9 $PID11:54
AlexRussiateK_: we can't kill zombie11:55
teK_reboot ;)11:55
AlexRussiateK_: lol11:55
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AlexRussiateK_: no, just dismount this drive manually :D12:15
AlexRussiateK_: it was usb12:15
teK_k12:15
AlexRussiateK_: some time ago i get same situation but with fs into my hard drive, then i really reboot system :D12:16
teK_you can always check with lsof | grep #FILENAME#  which process still has open file descriptor(s) on #FILENAME#12:17
AlexRussiateK_: yep, but it was zombie12:18
AlexRussiateK_: i couldn't nothing to do12:19
AlexRussiateK_: lol, i have one good tip for you: never use ntfs for save vbox virtual drive unix-like system, if you in linux12:49
AlexRussiateK_: else you get shit :D12:49
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tornainbowso i just did a prt-get sysup but now getting errors in Xorg.0.log when startx. module ABI version doesn't match the server's version.14:19
tornainbowdo i need to recompile kernel modules?14:19
tornainbowthat's what i assume anyway because of (EE) failed to load module "intel" (module requirement mismatch)14:20
jaegerif xorg-server was upgraded, rebuild xorg-xf86-(input|video)-*14:21
jaegerprt-get update -fr $(prt-get listinst | egrep 'xorg-xf86-(input|video)')14:21
tornainbowyeah xorg-server was upgraded. i guess it just needs to be linked with new files?14:22
tornainbowthat did the trick! thanks jaeger14:23
jaegerwelcome14:24
jaegerthat happens every time xorg-server is upgraded14:24
tornainbowi'll remember that.14:25
frinnstwell, everytime there's a big'ish change14:25
frinnstx.x.N releases dont break abi compat14:25
tornainbowyeah this was to 1.1614:26
frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3gwz7IdCNo14:30
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jaegersmrt14:32
tornainbowman everything goes much better when you build UTF-8 support in the kernel14:36
teK_AlexRussia: did you use ntfs-3g?14:50
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teK_anybody in #crux using a 4k display yet?15:05
BitPuffinnope15:09
jaegerNot I, only 2.5k :D15:10
teK_fonts look crappy/strange since the upgrade15:13
teK_and I'm too lazy to find the right combination of fonts.conf-Options15:14
AlexRussiateK_: yep15:16
teK_k15:16
BitPuffinteK_: well you are gonna have to either live with it or fix it :P15:19
teK_let's see when the laziness will lose to my eyes ;)15:21
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AlexRussiai have question: what if 'cp System.map /boot' but System.map not exist in /usr/src/linux...15:33
AlexRussia?15:33
teK_re-run make (after configuring your kernel!)?15:40
teK_oh nope that wont fix that :p15:40
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AlexRussialol16:19
AlexRussiaso what i need to do?16:20
BitPuffinmake clean and make?16:20
teK_this helped:16:25
teK_make vmlinuxclean && make16:25
teK_it's chicker than make clean :o16:26
BitPuffin:P16:35
nrxtxmake mrpoper and start completely new ;)16:43
jaegerbackup .config first if you run make mrproper16:44
nrxtxjaeger got the point16:45
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AlexRussiateK_: oh, lol, i am sorry :D17:11
AlexRussiateK_: autocomplete in bash shit - count registers in word....17:12
AlexRussiasomething wrong...17:16
AlexRussiai guess, handbook lost install lilo, but aren't lost configure it...17:17
AlexRussiaoh f*ck17:18
AlexRussiai see now17:18
AlexRussiai get error at 'lilo': fatal: open '/dev/' - is a directory17:21
AlexRussialol, see17:22
AlexRussiai didn't setup boot device...17:22
AlexRussia...17:23
AlexRussiasomebody know how to setup internet for crux under vbox? @_@17:24
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AlexRussia...17:59
jaegershould be nothing special about it. make sure the module for the NIC you've selected is loaded or built into the kernel and run /etc/rc.d/net as normal18:00
AlexRussiajaeger: no, nat works fine cirrently18:00
AlexRussiajaeger: NIC is...?18:01
jaegernetwork interface card18:01
AlexRussiajaeger: ah18:01
AlexRussiahere is usually just named network card18:01
jaegersuch as "Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)" in vbox18:01
AlexRussiajaeger: remember me....how to append new user? @_@18:01
jaegeruseradd(8)18:02
AlexRussiajaeger: i know, is useradd iirc, just i be happy if you help me don't crash in options :D18:02
jaegerI usually do something like this:18:02
AlexRussiajaeger: lol, i write long time :D18:02
jaegeruseradd -G audio,video,disk,dialout,cdrom,input,pkgmk -m jaeger18:02
jaegeryou can change which groups you use, obviously18:03
AlexRussiajaeger: if user want have X? @_@18:03
jaegernothing special required except maybe to add the user to the input group18:03
AlexRussiaXorg i mean....18:03
jaegerAFK, have to go out again18:04
AlexRussiajaeger: :)18:04
AlexRussiajaeger: we haven't group pkgmk18:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: unrar: 5.1.6 -> 5.1.718:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libjpeg: replaced by libjpeg-turbo18:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libmng: updated to 2.0.218:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libpng: updated to 1.6.718:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: gvim: upate to 7.4.9418:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: apr: update to 1.5.0, apr-utils: update to 1.5.318:21
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AlexRussiahow i could setup mirror for ports? @_@ i mean,for fetch ports, not for share18:33
nrxtxAlexRussia: best is mirroring and setup a "distfiles" folder18:36
AlexRussianrxtx: what is mirroring?18:37
nrxtxcreate a copy of a set of files18:37
AlexRussianrxtx: just, i here see some files in /etc/ports , seems interesing...18:37
AlexRussianrxtx: but everywhere host set hardly18:38
nrxtxyou can setup a folder where to look first before he tries the hardcoded one18:38
AlexRussia...18:53
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AlexRussiawtf19:42
AlexRussiahow system could eat only 32 MiB with runned openbox? @_@ HOW19:43
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AlexRussiai see, here more popular KDE than GNOME...20:04
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libjpeg: replaced by libjpeg-turbo20:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libmng: updated to 2.0.220:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libpng: updated to 1.6.720:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: gvim: upate to 7.4.9420:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: apr: update to 1.5.0, apr-utils: update to 1.5.320:09
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: qemu: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.020:11
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: qemu-all: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.020:11
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: qemu-agent: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.020:11
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