IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2014-08-10

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AlexRussiadiverse: seems like your pekwm haven't any panels...01:28
AlexRussiadiverse: hm, if not hard, you could send screenshot desktop without conversation? @_@01:32
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BitPuffinwhat do you guys normally use to move your crux httpup repository on to your server?02:44
BitPuffinapparently you can't httpup locally02:44
BitPuffinwhich sucks02:44
BitPuffinand if I rsync it will grab things that httpup would ignore02:44
BitPuffinat least I have
BitPuffinbut I had to move it there by hand :[02:46
darfoI use FTP02:54
BitPuffinah wait02:55
BitPuffinI can just specify a target with repgen :P02:56
darfocorrection,  I use rsync with a bunch of --exclude02:56
BitPuffinalso crux ssh doesn't come with ssh-copy-id?03:02
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darfossh-copy-id is a contrib script in the source tarball, maybe the core team add it03:49
darfoand the man page.03:49
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RomsterBitPuffin you might want to change the mime types so it's viewable plain/text04:38
Romsteri really hate web servers with the wrong mime set.04:38
Romsterforces me to download than to view in browser04:39
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: scite: fixed md5sum12:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: dropbear: update to 2014.6512:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: cifs-utils: update to 6.412:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libnl: update to 3.2.2512:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libpcap: update to 1.6.112:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: tcpdump: update to 4.6.112:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: smartmontools: update to 6.312:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: poppler: update to 0.26.312:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: poppler-glib: update to 0.26.312:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: poppler-qt4: update to 0.26.312:25
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cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: eudev: update to 1.912:29
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: bash: update to 4.3.2212:29
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: dhcpcd: update to 6.4.312:29
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: ca-certificates: update to 2014071512:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: update to 2.99.91412:37
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: whois: update to 5.1.513:08
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BitPuffinjaeger: who's responsible for adding port collections to portdb? :)13:54
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joacimBitPuffin: whoever responds to contrib-admin at crux dot nu I guess =)14:30
BitPuffinyeah well I wonder who that is14:30
BitPuffinI'm guessing since maybe not a lot of people submit to it often it might not get checked that much :D14:30
BitPuffindo you guys use fail2ban?14:31
joacimI use denyhosts on crux14:33
joacimgot fail2ban running on my centos vps tho14:33
BitPuffinjoacim: which one do you like more?14:35
joacimi think denyhosts is easier to use14:35
joacimdon't have to configure firewall-related stuff14:35
joacimso that's the one i prefer14:35
frinnstdoing it with iptables isnt very hard14:38
BitPuffinfrinnst: I am considering going for nftables instead14:38
joacimfor me that wuold require reading documentation, which i didn't bother to do14:38
frinnstI should really start to play with nftables14:39
nkris or you use something like shorewall14:39
BitPuffinshorewall is iptables14:40
BitPuffingenerating a 16384 bit ssh key takes a while :P14:40
nkrisyes but you don't have to write iptable rules manually14:40
BitPuffinnkris: neither do I have to with nftables14:40
BitPuffinisn't one of the main points of nftables to have better syntax?14:41
frinnstit is, yes14:41
nkrisgood thing14:42
BitPuffinsecuring up my vps a bit :P14:46
BitPuffinI should have probably set up lvm and luks but that's too late now14:46
BitPuffinand on a vps it probably is too much overhead14:47
BitPuffindoes anyone else have issues with pasting big passwords in to terminals?14:48
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BitPuffinhmm no it seems to be only over ssh15:05
BitPuffinalright now I think my ssh is pretty safe, no password based login and a huge ass key :)15:05
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BitPuffinfrinnst: :)16:40
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diversehmm, I wonder which one I should take? :P16:53
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BitPuffinhey nkris17:15
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diversebtw BitPuffin, why are generating such a big key?17:17
BitPuffindiverse: just wanted a hyper strong key for authentication17:18
nrxtxthe chance that the key is broken by algorithm is higher that key size17:18
BitPuffinnrxtx: you think?17:19
BitPuffineither way17:19
diverseI don't follow17:19
BitPuffinit makes the key harder to guess17:19
BitPuffinbecause it's a nonstandard size17:19
diversebut it has a higher chance of break in?17:20
BitPuffindiverse: no17:21
diversethat's what I thought but nrxtx seems to think otherwise17:23
nrxtxdiverse: depends17:24
BitPuffindiverse: I guess maybe if someone knows the key size it is easier to bruteforce17:24
nrxtxat the end someone will break in by webserver or something else is easier that breaking the key for ssh, all a matter of what to protect17:25
BitPuffinnrxtx: I think it's fine17:25
BitPuffin32768 is currently the biggest you can generate with openssh17:26
BitPuffinor you mean that it can't authenticate?17:26
BitPuffinbecause I am already using it and it works fine17:27
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BitPuffinif I export an environment variable in a Pkgfile is it then unset after the build is done?18:35
BitPuffinbecause right now I am doing this18:35
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BitPuffinhmm, kde4 ports are still in the 3.0 repo :P19:14
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nwehello, after I upgrade chromium, chromium started to crash.. when I launching it I got Aw, snap! In the terminal i can see this.. Failed to establish GPU channel.. any idea?19:25
BitPuffinnwe: gpu driver problems?19:25
BitPuffinnwe: paste full terminal output somewhere?19:25
nweI rename ~/.config/chromium to ~/.config/chromiun.bak.. Now I get this..
BitPuffinnwe: hmm, someone who actually uses chromium is gonna have to help you with this :)19:29
nweBitPuffin: are you using firefox :) I using both ^^19:31
BitPuffinnwe: yeah19:31
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frinnstwhat gpu do you have? seems like chromium is attempting to initialize webgl or whatever its called19:42
nwefrinnst: intel haswell-ult intergrated graphics controller19:44
nweusing driver video-intel19:44
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deus_exdamn you, ff. 'h.264 support with appropriate gstreamer codecs.'would it kill you to explicitly say which ones?19:57
frinnstyeah you need a shitload of gstreamer crap19:57
frinnstthats why its disabled by default in opt/firefox19:58
nwefrinnst: any more idea ? :)19:58
deus_explugins-bad/ugly, gst-libav, and still no h.264 (this is in binary from mozilla)19:58
frinnstother than disabling hardware acceleration, not really19:59
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frinnstmaybe you need the compat ports ?19:59
nwefrinnst: gst stuff was that for me ?20:02
deus_exfrinnst: ff-31 uses gst-1.x for h.264 support.apparently :)20:03
nwefrinnst: If I change back go my old chromium profile dir.. chromium start but will crash, even when I tyring access "Settings"20:04
frinnstnew: #glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas20:04
frinnst ?20:04
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frinnstok, lets try that again:20:05
frinnstnwe: # glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas20:05
nwefrinnst: I have /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas20:06
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BitPuffinwhat's preferred21:06
BitPuffinor /usr/etc21:06
BitPuffin /etc*21:06
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teK_there a rules for that somewhere in the wiki. I strongly dislike /usr/etc.21:19
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BitPuffin"Do not combine several separately distributed programs/libraries into one package. Make several packages instead. "21:34
BitPuffin*cough* qt421:34
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BitPuffin/usr/etc/<prog>/Configuration files21:35
BitPuffin/etc/Configuration files for system software (daemons, etc)21:35
BitPuffinthis is a daemon21:35
BitPuffinbut I don't know if it counts as system software21:35
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nrxtxdoes lilo works with GPT on the crux 3.1 version?21:42
deus_exeven with ff-34 openh.264 plugin, no h.264 support.wth.21:46
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frinnstrun ldd and see what it looks for22:01
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BitPuffinaight opensmtpd port added22:27
BitPuffinif only my ports collection was in the portdb :P22:27
teK_that's not hard22:29
BitPuffinwhat's not hard?22:30
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rexichHey people!22:32
rexichI'd like to ask a question22:32
BitPuffinrexich: ask away :)22:33
rexichI know CRUX is now 64-bit only, but since I've got a small laptop that is 32-bit only, is there any way to compile CRUX 3.1 to be a full 32-bit system?22:33
BitPuffinI think so yes22:33
teK_BitPuffin: getting your portdb listed.22:33
BitPuffinconsidering we have crux-arm22:34
teK_*you in22:34
BitPuffinteK_: no I know, I sent the mail yesterday, I'm just waiting for the admin to do it22:34
BitPuffinit's already public at
teK_nowadays I'm doing that as the admin is rather busy :p22:34
teK_I should add myself to that alias..22:34
BitPuffinteK_: ah well I should be bothering you then :P22:34
teK_you can try22:35
BitPuffinokay so22:35
BitPuffinroot url:
BitPuffinrepo name: bitpuffin22:35
rexichBitPuffin: I know there is CRUX 2.8, but I'm afraid the software will be outdated :/ is there anyone still maintaining 2.8?22:35
BitPuffinmy name Isak Andersson22:35
teK_but not tonight, heading off to bed. Peeps at the office turned off the power. Should have been back 2.5 hours ago, heard nothing from them. It's going to be a fun morning tomorrow22:36
BitPuffinrexich: don't hink so22:36
teK_BitPuffin: I'll get back to you tomorrow night. If not, ping me again22:36
BitPuffinteK_: okay :]22:36
rexichBitPuffin: thank you. Is there anything similar to CRUX that is 32-bit and supported, so I can get this laptop working?22:37
BitPuffinrexich: all you have to do is rebuild the packages it seems22:44
rexichBitPuffin: thank you, I'll try22:45
BitPuffinrexich: I think so at least, give it a try :)22:45
BitPuffinrexich: there is people here who build their own isos that I'm sure can hel22:46
BitPuffinI think Romster might be one of them22:46
BitPuffinor jaeger22:46
rexichBitPuffin: I hope they notice ;)22:47
BitPuffinyes :D22:47
BitPuffinhave hope :)22:47
BitPuffinregardless there is always a way22:48
BitPuffinand it's fun and educational to figure out how22:48
rexichBitPuffin: I know, but I'm a little short with time, although I love tinkering22:51
BitPuffinyeah :/22:52
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