IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2014-08-12

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nwegood morning05:54
Workstermorning nwe06:01
nwehow are you Workster ?06:04
Workstergood at work but it's gone a bit quiet atm06:07
nwehehe okey :) Im at work too :P trying to figure out why my colleauge want to run nginx instead of squid as proxy..06:09
Worksterhmm06:10
nweand he is not here.. so I cant ask him..06:11
Worksterthere is a fork of squid as well forgot the name06:12
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Worksterthought of using a CDN network?06:15
Workstereven if it's a few servers for the intranet06:16
Worksternginx is a web server and reverse proxy cache, you could do the same with apache and varnish06:18
Workstersquid seems heavyweight for that use.06:18
nweall our server that need fetch stuff from internet will go tought this proxy and we will whitelist the urls...06:19
Worksteroh your after squid for that.06:19
Workstersetup it up with transparant and add some rules06:19
Worksteri can not think of the fork of squid06:20
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Worksteri'll find it when i get home.06:29
nweWorkster: thanks :)06:34
nweWorkster: yupp I will run squid for because I have setup that in our test enviorment, so you just whitelist domain byt type them in a file like www.google.com then you can access google tought the proxy..06:36
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nwewb Workster06:51
Worksterwindows... update something must reboot06:51
nweare you using windows at work???06:52
Worksteryes06:52
nweI think you running crux :)06:52
Worksternot at work06:52
Worksterall windoze every customer -_-06:52
nwebuuu :P06:52
Worksteri do use a linux live cd for data recovery though06:53
nwerunning rdesktop ?06:53
nweor windows on a virtual machine06:54
Worksterreal hardware06:54
Worksterwould you like to resart now..... NO06:55
Worksterwhy can't it be more linuxy and not foce rebooting06:55
Worksterforce*06:55
hhhhhhhhmy installation isn't making/populating /dev/input on boot06:56
hhhhhhhhso my keyboard/mouse etc don't work in X06:57
hhhhhhhhhow do i fix this :d06:57
Worksterdepends what did you do to it?06:57
hhhhhhhhi have evdev built into the kernel, xorg-libevdev xorg-xf86-input-evdev06:57
Worksterdid it work before?06:57
hhhhhhhhfresh install it has never worked06:57
Worksterdid you start off with the kernel .config off the iso?06:58
hhhhhhhhno i just did make and used the one it made for me06:58
Worksterthers your problem your probably missing a bunch of stuff including devtmpfs06:59
hhhhhhhhi do have devtmpfs07:00
Worksterand the other dev option i'm at work don't fancy remote logging in to ust rememebr the name07:00
WorksterThe setup program installs a configuration file /usr/src/linux-3.12.24/.config which is a good starting point for a custom kernel, because all needed options, like CONFIG_DEVTMPFS, are enabled.07:02
hhhhhhhhcomparing with the crux config i am only missing psaux under input devices07:03
Workstermouse driver all that is07:04
Worksterand keyboard for ps2 sockets07:04
Workstermost don't use them anymore.07:04
Worksterdid you do a sysup after installing 3.1?07:05
hhhhhhhhi did07:05
Worksterinstall that extra depencdency for xorg-server and rebuild all xorg {input,video} drivers07:06
Worksterdue to ABI change in xorg-server 1.1607:07
Worksterelse mouse/keyboard even video wont work07:07
hhhhhhhhi installed the missing dep last night07:07
Worksterxorg-xf86-input-evdev07:08
hhhhhhhhand i rebuilt input/video when i saw the mismatch in xorg logs07:08
Worksterneeds a rebuild07:08
Worksterk07:08
Worksterthen i guess kernel settings then07:08
hhhhhhhhguess i will go down configs side by side when i get home07:10
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hhhhhhhhi caNT WAIT07:10
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hhhhhhhh:d07:10
hhhhhhhhevdev: version magic '3.16.0 SMP mod_unload ' should be '3.16.0 SMP preempt mod_unload '07:12
hhhhhhhhdoes that matter07:12
Worksterdiff -u .config /usr/src/.../.config07:12
ROKO__hey guys07:12
ROKO__what is working way to change console locale ?07:12
ROKO__i was try with localedef but still in POSIX locale07:12
Worksterdunno not seen that message before hhhhhhhh07:13
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ROKO__localedef -i ru_RU -f UTF-8 ru_RU.UTF-807:13
ROKO__# locale07:13
ROKO__LANG=07:13
ROKO__LC_CTYPE="POSIX"07:13
Worksterthat generates the locales but you probably want setlocale07:14
ROKO__do i need to make some variables in /etc/profile ?07:15
ROKO__setlocale ?07:16
ROKO__this is a command ?07:16
hhhhhhhhhm i think that means i need to clean and rebuild some modules07:16
hhhhhhhhanyway going to work07:16
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ROKO__?07:18
ROKO__no way to get answer here ?07:19
c0xROKO__, v lichku07:21
ROKO__c0x: что ?07:21
c0xROKO__, utf807:22
ROKO__c0x: for what ?07:22
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ROKO__https://dpaste.de/sRDf07:38
ROKO__xorg eproxy package not found ?07:39
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Romsterprt-get depinst libeproxy08:00
ROKO__okay08:03
ROKO__for packages that i use and not found in ports what to do ?08:04
ROKO__https://dpaste.de/1wn5 firefox segmentation fault durring compile08:07
Romsterdunno but i got a built one at http://crux.ster.zone/packages/3.1/firefox%2331.0-1.pkg.tar.gz08:10
Romsterpkgadd -u that08:10
Romsterbbl table tennis08:10
ROKO__Romster: i want too table tennis08:11
ROKO__:>08:11
ROKO__https://dpaste.de/oF3F08:15
ROKO__gudev08:15
frinnstseems gudev needs a patch from 3.0/core/udev08:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: yasm: updated to 1.3.008:27
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] subversion: updated to 1.8.1008:27
frinnsthm, that patch probably only existed in my 3.1 dev depo08:27
frinnstROKO__: please notify the maintainer08:27
ROKO__so give me patch :>08:31
frinnstI dont have it. google probably does08:32
ROKO__i searching but cant found08:33
nwefrinnst: which patch ?08:48
frinnstfor udev with new'ish glibc08:48
frinnstour old udev (its still used by gudev)08:49
diversefrinnst: why did Romster get the slapping?09:00
ROKO__so i cant found patch..09:02
ROKO__maybe no such patch09:03
ROKO__and there is nobody to get solution ?09:03
frinnsti just googled it and found it09:11
frinnsthttps://github.com/gentoo/eudev/commit/3d6f228db94e8bfb81f3b163739250e9a578e81909:12
frinnstbruteforce remove of offending code :)09:12
frinnsthttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=sd-daemon.c%3A%28.text%2B0x81a%29%3A+undefined+reference+to+%60mq_getattr%2709:12
frinnstbecause he is the maintainer :)09:13
ROKO__so this is just commit from 2 years ago.09:13
ROKO__and no patch because now is in mainstream09:13
ROKO__so i create by hand one patch that work..09:14
ROKO__https://gist.github.com/9f547a9118d779333ccf09:14
ROKO__there is patch09:14
ROKO__woops https://gist.github.com/sandikata/14433c7595e1dd9682b109:19
ROKO__but there is so many broken packs09:22
ROKO__another one fix in Pkgfile09:29
ROKO__https://gist.github.com/sandikata/3aec0e599e7942f0f39d09:30
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RomsterROKO__, http://obra.se/Romster_tabletennis.jpg09:47
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ROKO__Romster: you ?09:50
Romsterfrinnst, if you look he is building gudev out of xfce409:50
Romsteryes me09:51
RomsterROKO__, for starters should use the gudev in contrib not that outdated one in xfce09:52
Romsterand then mine needs a bump as well.09:52
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ROKO__hm09:53
ROKO__..09:53
ROKO__so i try to install xfce09:53
ROKO__at this time i success in this way09:53
Romsteryou can try xfce but i think it's largely broken.09:53
Romsterprtdir /usr/ports/contrib:gudev09:54
Romsterput that line above xfce09:54
ROKO__prtdir /usr/ports/xfce09:55
ROKO__prtdir /usr/ports/contrib:gudev09:55
ROKO__?09:55
Romsterother way around09:57
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gudev: 1.6 -> 1.909:57
Romsterprtdir /usr/ports/contrib:gudev09:57
Romsterprtdir /usr/ports/xfce09:57
Romstersudo ports -u opt ; sudo prt-get depinst gudev09:58
Romsterah sorry09:58
Romstersudo ports -u contrib ; sudo prt-get depinst gudev09:58
Romsterthen do the rest of xfce09:58
Romsterit'll use the one in contrib that's newer.09:58
frinnstsorry :)09:59
ROKO__Romster: what rest09:59
ROKO__should i rebuild whole xfce after that ?10:00
Romsternah10:01
Romsteryou can do if you like sudo su - ; prt-get update -fr `revdep` ; exit10:01
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ROKO__revdep this is similar to gentoo's revdep-rebuild ?10:03
Romsterrevdep lists ports that are broken10:03
Romsterand feeds it to prt-get -fr = force rebuild10:03
Romstersame result.10:03
ROKO__yeah so its similar10:04
ROKO__prt-get update -fr `revdep`10:04
ROKO__-bash: revdep: command not found10:04
ROKO__prt-get update takes at least 1 argument10:04
Romstercrux is a little more smaller command's one job and subshell or pipe as needed.10:04
Romstersudo prt-get depinst prt-utils10:05
ROKO__okay10:05
Romsterhonlestly think revdep should be in pkgutils and not prt-utils frinnst10:05
ROKO__Romster: i am agree with that10:06
ROKO__should be in core crux system not in seperate package10:06
Romsteri should make a note of that for crux 3.210:07
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ROKO__:)10:11
ROKO__i should learn about pkgfiles..10:12
ROKO__if i need some that not found in your repos10:12
ROKO__https://dpaste.de/Hz4b10:15
ROKO__wicd :<10:15
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: memtest86+: 4.20 -> 5.0110:19
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Romsteryou havne't got the dbus daemon running. there is two parts to it10:20
RomsterSERVICES=(... dbus) in /etc/rc.conf10:21
Romstersudo /etc/rc.d/dbus start10:21
Romsterand edit ~/.xinitrc add10:22
Romsterdbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session foo10:22
Romsterfoo being your desktop xfce4 or what ever your running now.10:22
ROKO__yeah10:24
ROKO__i using slim10:24
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: eudev-32: 1.8 -> 1.910:54
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: libidn-32: 1.28 -> 1.2910:59
ROKO__but now.. shutdown reboot buttons not work under regular user11:07
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frinnst    11:29
frinnstoops11:29
frinnst    11:30
frinnstaaand again11:30
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diverse 14:40
diverseblank statements, they are like magic!14:41
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-xf86-input-mouse: updated to 1.9.115:29
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hhhhhhhhthe bitlbee package in opt relies in pre-install being run before pkgmk18:49
hhhhhhhhshould i put that on flyspray or what18:50
nwehhhhhhhh: you can use prt-get depinst --install-scripts19:21
hhhhhhhhnwe: building the package fails because it needs the bitlbee user, which is created by pre-install19:22
hhhhhhhhor does pre-install get run before build19:22
nwe--install-scripts   execute pre-install and post-install script19:27
nweyes it will be execute before build19:27
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BitPuffinhhhhhhhh: you can also set it to always run scripts in the prt-get configuration file19:52
BitPuffinrunscripts yes19:52
BitPuffinkeep in mind that it is obviously a risk19:53
BitPuffinas a script could be malicious19:53
hhhhhhhhyea19:53
BitPuffinand do like dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda19:53
hhhhhhhhapparently the contents of /dev/input are in /dev for me19:53
hhhhhhhhlike i have /dev/event0 etc19:53
BitPuffinIt would be kind of cool if you could set runscripts on a collection level19:55
BitPuffinso19:55
BitPuffinrunscripts opt yes19:55
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hhhhhhhhok i have found someting new and interesting20:56
hhhhhhhhwhen the kernel makes its devtmpfs20:56
hhhhhhhhit doesn't have any subdirectories20:57
hhhhhhhhthen the init i have in my ramdisk is just copying those to the new dev20:57
hhhhhhhhif i do start_udev properly on an empty /dev that should fix it right?20:57
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hhhhhhhhyup fuck my life21:02
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hhhhhhhhnoooooooooooooooow i just need synaptics to start working21:14
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hhhhhhhhmodprobe psmouse21:17
hhhhhhhhexcellent21:18
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