IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2014-08-19

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diverseRomster: thanks for providing the texinfo port, that came in handy. You have everything! :P00:37
diverseWorkster: ^00:38
Worksternearly everything00:43
pnutzh4x0rjaeger: diverse ah, ok, that explains the openssl update to 3.000:48
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thetornainbowjaeger: i like it for the sane copy/paste (Shift+^C/V), system clipboard woes with rxvt-unicode, url hints, great handling with fontconfig, no dealing with .Xresources/.Xdefaults, cleaner vim edit mode, no dependencies other than vte3 (patched), and seems to take up even fewer system resources when running compared to urxvtd+urxvtc01:19
thetornainbowRomster: https://github.com/thestinger/termite/blob/master/expose_select_text.patch01:20
thetornainbowit patches clean with the build of vte3 in /opt. it adds some functions in vte for the vim-like modes it offers01:21
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: vte3: expose select text, for termite02:41
thetornainbowoooh. thanks Romster :D02:41
Romsterthetornainbow, done02:41
thetornainbowbeat you to it02:41
Romsterheh02:41
thetornainbowmany thanks02:41
Romsterdoesn't look like it will affect anything else.02:42
thetornainbownah i didn't think it would, but then again, no expert here02:43
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Worksterhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/08/18/2219253/munich-reverses-course-may-ditch-linux-for-microsoft04:10
Worksternoooo04:10
thetornainbowi had no idea weechat v1.0 was released04:14
thetornainbowdrinks all around04:14
renovaatioim gonna use arch's configs for the kernel04:15
renovaatioi got tired04:15
renovaatiothe kernel is an anxious bitch, prone to kernel04:16
renovaatio*prone to panic attacks04:16
thetornainbowthe kernel is prone to kernel04:16
renovaatioit is actually04:18
renovaatioi'll tweak it afterward04:20
renovaatiomaybe04:20
renovaatiowont compile04:30
Worksterif you think the the kernel is bad you haven't messed with toolchains04:35
Workstertry a subtle bug that affects everything but is hidden waiting to emerge one day when you think everything is okay.04:35
thetornainbowemerge world04:36
jaeger-uDN04:37
thetornainbowhaha eselect set distribution CRUX04:37
renovaatioyeah04:40
renovaatioi don't even know what toolchains are04:40
jaegerusually a compiler, linker, libraries, and maybe debugger04:43
openfbtdrenovaatio, x86_64_defconfig is a good start04:43
jaegerin the case of most linux dists, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_toolchain04:43
openfbtdOr i386_defconfig for 32bit04:43
jaegerthe config that ships on the ISO is also a decent start. It's the defconfig plus some options04:43
thetornainbowwhen updating your kernel do you usually just make oldconfig?04:46
jaegerthat's a good way to start, yeah04:47
jaegerit'll prompt you for new options04:47
thetornainbowyeah i'm not terribly experienced with long term kernel maintenance. any best practices? mostly it's been trial and error here :)04:48
openfbtd# gzip -cd /proc/config.gz > .config; make04:49
jaegertrial and error can teach you a lot if you pay attention to it and learn from the changes. I find compiling a kernel pretty easy these days but I've been doing it since 1996. Lots of trial and error at first04:49
jaegeras for best practices, I think most people would say best practice is to use a distro that doesn't make you compile a kernel, heh04:49
jaegerwith that said, learn how to figure out from the tools you have available (lspci, lscpu, their /proc and /sys counterparts, etc.) what kernel options you need04:50
jaegerit's not too hard once you've done it a few times04:50
renovaationow i'm trying this04:51
renovaatiohttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Gentoo_on_a_ThinkPad_T420#Working_Kernel_configuration04:51
renovaatiowish me luck04:51
jaegerRead the help entries for things in menuconfig, too, they can teach you a lot. If you don't know what something means it's a good idea to leave it at the default setting until you know more04:51
jaegergood luck04:52
jaegerbedtime for me, night04:52
renovaatiognight04:53
thetornainbowha. well over the last four iterations of kernel "tries" it's gotten better. one thing that threw me for a loop was nls settings, and i couldn't find my video card for the longest time, but after reading the text for a while found some necessary prerequisites in AGP support it was much better04:53
thetornainbowgn jaeger04:53
renovaatiokernel panic05:19
thetornainbowall right. i'm off to bed as well05:35
thetornainbowgn05:35
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sepenhey08:20
teK_ho08:21
sepenlet's go08:22
sepenramones ;D08:22
teK_:o08:24
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u7knv9hi've never printed a file with linux, and now i urgently need to print something not too complex, a simple page created with abiword, how do i print the file?09:42
Amnesiau7knv9h: using cups & lpr09:47
u7knv9his there lpr in the portdb? or its included in the system? or must i compile it manually?09:48
u7knv9hdo i need to add something to the kernel in order to print?09:49
Amnesiau7knv9h: it's part of the cups port09:49
u7knv9hokay, thanks!09:50
Amnesiaand yes, there are a couple of dependencies when you want to be able to print stuff09:50
u7knv9hlike?09:50
Amnesiawell, say it's an usb printer, you'd need to support the usb controller09:51
u7knv9hmh, okay09:53
u7knv9hthen how do i print using cups and lpr?09:53
Amnesia1. install cups, 2. configure your printer (and make sure you've got its driver installed), 3. add a printjob to the queue using lpr09:54
Amnesiafor command specifics check the man pages09:54
u7knv9h2. i dont get what do you mean by configure09:55
Amnesiau7knv9h: 0x7ca!09:57
Amnesiahttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS *09:57
u7knv9hcan i print docx and odt too?10:00
u7knv9heven if with images?10:00
Amnesiayes you can10:01
Amnesiabut that'd require you to send the printjob from openoffice10:01
Amnesiac.q word10:01
u7knv9hokay, thanks for everything!10:02
u7knv9hah, just a little question10:02
u7knv9hcan i print .odt with special fonts?10:03
Amnesiadunno10:05
Amnesiagive it a shot10:05
u7knv9hokay10:06
u7knv9hwhen you said "that'd require you to send the printjob from openoffice" you were referring to the documents with images?10:06
Amnesiathat would be a posibillity yes10:12
Amnesiabut as long as cups is configured correctly, all applications with print support will work10:13
u7knv9hokay, thanks a lot!10:14
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Amnesiayw10:14
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fpm: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fcgi: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-mysql: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: Revert "mod_php: removed" (FS#1035)10:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: mod_php: update to 5.5.1510:40
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: xfsprogs: update to 3.2.110:53
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: subversion-bashcompletion: updated to 1.8.1012:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: giflib: updated to 5.1.012:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: freetype: updated to 2.5.312:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: imlib2: updated to 1.4.612:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: krb5: updated to 1.12.212:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libgd: updated to 2.1.012:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libogg: updated to 1.3.212:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libunique: updated to 3.0.212:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: minicom: updated to 2.712:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: nettle: updated to 3.012:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: p5-uri: updated to 1.6412:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: bzr: updated to 2.6.012:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: subversion-perl: updated to 1.8.1012:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: subversion-python: updated to 1.8.1012:05
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: nettle: rollback to 2.7.1 (FS#1023)13:46
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frinnst"An md/raid6 data corruption bug"14:41
frinnstfor the first time ever im glad i run raid5 and not raid6 :)14:41
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jaegerheh15:08
dougielho15:23
frinnsthm, anybody else have trouble rebuilding mplayer after the giflib update?15:36
frinnstIn file included from libvo/vo_gif89a.c:52:0:15:36
frinnst/usr/include/gif_lib.h:132:5: note: declared here int EGifCloseFile(GifFileType *GifFile, int *ErrorCode);15:36
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Necrosporusare here any xorg maintainers?16:46
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Necrosporusmesaport needs updating16:47
frinnstagain? why the fuck dont i get their announcements XD16:51
frinnststill lists 10.2.5 as the latest version on their news page. or am i missing something?16:52
frinnstNecrosporus: exactly what is the problem?16:53
NecrosporusURL is change from ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/mesa/9.2.5/ to ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/mesa/older-versions/9.x/9.2.5/16:57
frinnstah, thanks16:57
frinnstsilly mesa people16:57
frinnstoh wait, 9.x?16:57
frinnstwhat version are you running? D;16:57
frinnst(of crux)16:57
frinnst3.0/xorg uses ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/mesa/older-versions/9.x/$version/MesaLib-$version.tar.bz216:58
Necrosporuscrux-arm 3.016:58
frinnstcheck #crux-arm17:00
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nrxtxRomster: footprint of gcc-fortran is mismatching nearly completely22:31
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