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| nwe_ | good morning | 07:36 |
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| frinnst | morrn' | 07:36 |
| nwe_ | how are you frinnst ?? | 07:36 |
| frinnst | just fine, you? | 07:37 |
| nwe_ | it?s fine here too.. | 07:39 |
| Romster | nrxtx, fixed | 07:54 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: gcc-fortran: 4.7.3 -> 4.8.3 | 07:54 |
| frinnst | how can hp's OA suck so bad? | 08:12 |
| frinnst | only works with old and broken java versions | 08:12 |
| diverse | OA? | 08:17 |
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| frinnst | onboard administration | 08:21 |
| frinnst | bladeserver management crap | 08:21 |
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| cruxbot | [xorg.git/3.1]: mesa-demos: update to 8.2.0 | 08:33 |
| cruxbot | [xorg.git/3.1]: mesa3d: update to 10.2.6 | 08:33 |
| cruxbot | [core.git/3.1]: bash: update to 4.3.24 | 08:35 |
| cruxbot | [core.git/3.1]: util-linux: update to 2.25 | 08:35 |
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| tilman | huh, updating to 3.1 broke cups for me | 08:41 |
| tilman | or maybe something else did ;) | 08:44 |
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| frinnst | libpng? :) | 09:13 |
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| tilman | frinnst: indeed :| | 09:17 |
| frinnst | heh, It broke *everything* pretty much | 09:19 |
| teK_ | frinnst: please know that it won't get any better with Fujitsu's Serverview (Installation Manager) | 09:30 |
| teK_ | it took me four fucking days and countless tries to install 3 Windows Server VMs with this huge pile of stinking crap | 09:30 |
| frinnst | I had to fire up an old xp client to update the firmware | 09:30 |
| frinnst | but alas, its now installing windows updates | 09:31 |
| frinnst | oh, and you need an "oracle" account to download old jre versions | 09:31 |
| teK_ | windows updates through our squid proxy still won't work (even though there's no basic auth required to access these subdomains of ms.com...) | 09:31 |
| frinnst | jre 6.17 should be safe enough | 09:31 |
| teK_ | awesome | 09:34 |
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| frinnst | its aliiiive | 09:53 |
| frinnst | only took ~2hrs | 09:53 |
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| diverse | the more I hear you guys rant about your administration jobs, the less I feel incline to get one. | 10:00 |
| diverse | or maybe getting a linux admin job is better? | 10:03 |
| teK_ | on the other hand, frinnst does rant about me too. I am not that bad though. | 10:03 |
| teK_ | Linux > * | 10:03 |
| teK_ | but my impression is that there is a tendency (at leas in my environment) for shifting back to MS | 10:04 |
| diverse | and that tendency is because of idiotic project managers? | 10:04 |
| teK_ | it's because of MS making 'attractive' licensing offers, staff availability (train a monkey to use a mouse) and 'ease of use'. | 10:05 |
| teK_ | Don't forget that there are gold/silver/... partners bragging about their MS/Cisco/whatever suppor | 10:06 |
| teK_ | t | 10:06 |
| diverse | ewww | 10:06 |
| teK_ | I, myself, decided to go with 3x Windows instead of 2x Windows and 1x Linux because of the online-backup (through shadow pages) features of MSSQL coming for almost 0 extra-expense vs. increased costs for an Oracle solution | 10:07 |
| teK_ | the supporting consultant also preferred windows and my admin does not speak a word linux/unix. As I may quit the job for good in six months it was the right decision to make | 10:07 |
| teK_ | (i.e. a non-political one)_ | 10:08 |
| teK_ | and still we payed MS more than 17k EUR for licenses :) | 10:09 |
| teK_ | (almost exceeding the hardware costs for 2 Servers and a 2xFC storage system) | 10:10 |
| diverse | geez | 10:10 |
| diverse | and was that spending worth it? | 10:11 |
| diverse | still sounds like stupid corporate managers just want to throw money at the problems without thinking | 10:14 |
| teK_ | it sounds like Oracle OR MSSQL is supported by our vendor | 10:25 |
| teK_ | and the spending was done last week so I can't tell | 10:25 |
| teK_ | my job was to decide on the supplier, price and the product | 10:25 |
| teK_ | I knew the price or supplier got and accepted a revenue rate of <3% was ok (he has live off of something, too) | 10:26 |
| teK_ | so I set out to get my eomloyer a reasonable price and, imho, accomplished that | 10:26 |
| teK_ | am I happy that we are switching from some siemens unix, solaris and linux after about 20 years of use? Certainly not. | 10:27 |
| teK_ | there are missing some gap words, sorry :P | 10:29 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: imagemagick: explicit build with lcms2, fix dependencies | 10:29 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: foomatic-filters: removed, replaced by cups-filters | 10:29 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: strace: 4.8 -> 4.9 | 10:42 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: p5-net-dns: 0.77 -> 0.78 | 10:43 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: p5-netaddr-ip: update footprint for perl 5.18 | 10:44 |
| dxtr | Wouldn't it be neat to add a flag to prt-get that makes it run the (pre|post)-install script(s)? | 10:48 |
| tilman | grep script /etc/prt-get.conf | 10:48 |
| dxtr | tilman: Sigh.. I suck | 10:49 |
| dxtr | Nothing goes my way today :P | 10:50 |
| Necrosporus | How am I meant to install xfce or something? it's not present in ports | 11:06 |
| Necrosporus | I need a DE or something | 11:07 |
| Necrosporus | icewm would work | 11:07 |
| dxtr | tilman: Where do I send patches if a port needs updating? | 11:09 |
| diverse | teK_: that's disappointing though | 11:11 |
| diverse | Necrosporus: you have to download the rsync/httpup driver from portsdb and add the ports directory where it downloads to in /etc/pkgmk.conf for prt-get | 11:12 |
| Necrosporus | I see there's rsync file for xfce | 11:15 |
| Necrosporus | how to use it to download xfce collection? | 11:15 |
| tilman | dxtr: see the Maintainer line in the-port/Pkgfile | 11:15 |
| Necrosporus | http://crux.nu/portdb/?a=getup&q=xfce | 11:15 |
| tilman | dxtr: if they are in irc, just poke them in here =) | 11:16 |
| diverse | Necrosporus: yep, download from that link and put the file in /etc/ports | 11:16 |
| diverse | then run ports -u | 11:16 |
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| Necrosporus | diverse, though there are no directories in pkgmk.conf | 11:23 |
| Necrosporus | anyway seems I have to reread the handbook | 11:23 |
| diverse | Necrosporus: whoop, my bad. I meant /etc/prt-get.conf | 11:25 |
| diverse | I'm pretty tired | 11:25 |
| Necrosporus | pkgmk -d -u -r will do the job too I guess | 11:27 |
| Necrosporus | in xfce directory | 11:27 |
| Necrosporus | is there any difference between using setup or someting like (cd /cdrom/packages/core && pkgadd *)? | 11:51 |
| tilman | yes | 11:51 |
| frinnst | yeah, setup does some extra magic. removing obsolete packages adding new ones etc | 11:53 |
| Necrosporus | but if it's new install, then it doesn't matter, does it? | 11:56 |
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| teK_ | diverse: it's business, nothing more and nothing less | 12:11 |
| tilman | Necrosporus: don't remember. use the source. it's fairly readable | 12:21 |
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| frinnst | http://i.imgur.com/iDOzAa5.jpg | 13:39 |
| jaeger | heh, nice quote. lots of entertaining rambling phrases in that book | 13:51 |
| joacim | which book is that? | 13:54 |
| jaeger | http://www.joshbazell.com/wild-thing/ <-- I think it's this one but I might be misremembering | 13:56 |
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| frinnst | yeah it is | 14:22 |
| frinnst | need to read it asap :) | 14:22 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.1]: util-linux-32: 2.24.2 -> 2.25 | 14:25 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.1]: freetype-32: 2.4.11 -> 2.5.3 | 14:25 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.1]: mesa3d-32: 10.2.5 -> 10.2.6 | 14:25 |
| cruxbot | [compat-32.git/3.1]: mesa-demos-32: 8.1.0 -> 8.2.0 | 14:25 |
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| renovaatio | does the kernel provided with the install disk have any special configs or is it the default configs? | 16:15 |
| teK_ | should be this one: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=blob;f=kernel/linux-3.12.24.config | 16:16 |
| teK_ | nah | 16:17 |
| teK_ | should be this one: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=blob;f=kernel/linux-3.12.24.defconfig | 16:17 |
| teK_ | http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=blob;f=iso/bin/setup;h=f793a4bb3ca327566a229aa44f2a6a3bed787c17;hb=HEAD#l244 | 16:17 |
| renovaatio | teK_: what are the diferrences between the kernel's default configs and the crux ones? | 16:17 |
| teK_ | whatever jaeger saw as important. I recommend doing a diff(1) | 16:18 |
| renovaatio | teK_: thank you | 16:22 |
| teK_ | np | 16:22 |
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| thetornainbow | afternoon folks | 21:32 |
| teK_ | hello | 21:32 |
| thetornainbow | i'm slowly losing the ability to care how much coffee i'm drinking | 21:33 |
| teK_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmiap-uXug | 21:34 |
| thetornainbow | whoever made this gets it | 21:36 |
| jaeger | that's a bit scary, heh | 21:36 |
| teK_ | I love the art, music and content *g* | 21:36 |
| thetornainbow | haha i know. so catchy. and sung in french really makes it i think | 21:37 |
| jaeger | nice touch that the singing gets more manic | 21:38 |
| teK_ | HE IS NOT MANIC | 21:38 |
| jaeger | What do I know? I don't drink coffee. :P | 21:39 |
| thetornainbow | what? how? | 21:40 |
| thetornainbow | why? | 21:40 |
| jaeger | The last people who saw me drink coffee are pli, sip, jue, and jdolan | 21:40 |
| jaeger | in 2004. :P | 21:40 |
| teK_ | and now they are all retired/dead | 21:40 |
| teK_ | WHAAT | 21:40 |
| jaeger | heh | 21:40 |
| thetornainbow | i'm sorry for whatever happened to you jaeger | 21:40 |
| thetornainbow | truly | 21:40 |
| thetornainbow | do you want to talk about it? | 21:40 |
| jaeger | don't worry, there are plenty of other vices/addictions out there | 21:41 |
| jaeger | more than enough to go around | 21:41 |
| thetornainbow | yes, but none so intimate as coffee | 21:41 |
| teK_ | and not as widely accepted as coffee. Even more than alcohol | 21:42 |
| thetornainbow | ^^ | 21:42 |
| joacim | I don't drink coffee either. It is annoying that my relatives never got the memo | 21:42 |
| joacim | they always try to serve me some | 21:43 |
| teK_ | my "mother in law" took quite some years until she got it. Now I drink coffee with the result that she is puzzled even more | 21:43 |
| thetornainbow | why the quotes? not really your mother in law? | 21:44 |
| teK_ | I am not married (yet) | 21:45 |
| thetornainbow | ah | 21:45 |
| thetornainbow | my wife's family all drink coffee. my parents do not, so going to their house involves bringing necessary paraphernalia | 21:45 |
| jdolan | hey i'm not entirely dead | 21:46 |
| thetornainbow | soon | 21:46 |
| teK_ | ohai! | 21:46 |
| teK_ | long time no read :-) | 21:46 |
| jdolan | (fun coincidence, i just became FB friends with cptn today) | 21:46 |
| jdolan | hi teK_ o/ | 21:46 |
| jdolan | lmao, there's someone here named "retard" | 21:47 |
| jaeger | ooh, forgot about cptn, he was there too | 21:47 |
| jdolan | jaeger: was that when we had turkish coffee? | 21:48 |
| jaeger | I don't remember if it was turkish, it was at pli's apartment | 21:48 |
| jdolan | ah right. i'm FB friends with pli too. | 21:48 |
| jdolan | he often posts pics of RC cars he's won races with and stuff. | 21:49 |
| jaeger | nice | 21:49 |
| jaeger | I've been thinking about selling my RC cars, don't have enough free time :P | 21:49 |
| jaeger | already got enough hobbies, etc. | 21:49 |
| jdolan | i have an RC plane that makes a fine ornament in my office. | 21:49 |
| jaeger | :) | 21:49 |
| teK_ | and a nice one in scale 1:1 | 21:49 |
| jdolan | heh, i wish! someday. | 21:50 |
| jaeger | What is this, a plane for ANTS?! | 21:50 |
| jdolan | something old, open cockpit, tail dragger. | 21:50 |
| jdolan | biplane, of course. | 21:50 |
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| deus_ex | md5sums for libunique and subversion-bashcompletion are busted.again ;) | 22:02 |
| deus_ex | the more I play with zfs (in vm, for now). the more I like it. | 22:02 |
| deus_ex | is btrfs inspired by it?e.g similar features | 22:03 |
| deus_ex | heavy rain outside.I like summers like this. | 22:04 |
| jdolan | deus_ex: we're getting a nice t-storm right now in Naples FL too. | 22:05 |
| pedja | jdolan: FL?You retired there after getting filthy rich, I presume ;) ? | 22:07 |
| jdolan | hehe, no, just decided to move to paradise while young. | 22:07 |
| jdolan | (paradise, full of crazy tea partiers and rednecks) | 22:07 |
| pedja | paradise, for me, would be owning a bar on a Fiji island near the white sand beach, promiscous females and high speed Internet :) | 22:10 |
| pedja | I keep choosing wrong lottery numbers, it seems... | 22:12 |
| pedja | I really need to add spellcheck to Pidgin.Or learn to spell. | 22:13 |
| teK_ | nice dream :) | 22:15 |
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