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| cruxbot | [core.git/3.1]: eudev: install prebuild man-pages | 05:33 |
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| cruxbot | [core.git/3.1]: eudev: add --disable-manpages to avoid net access if libxslt is installed | 05:48 |
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| xvee | hi guys | 06:12 |
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| diverse | that was short lived... | 08:29 |
| Romster | xvee is always short lived | 08:51 |
| diverse | Romster: true to that | 09:01 |
| diverse | Any gamers familiar with Twitch? | 09:01 |
| diverse | Apparently Amazon bought them out recently for $970 | 09:01 |
| diverse | *970 million | 09:02 |
| diverse | and Amazon is having an "All Video Games Gold Box Event" with special deals thoughtout the whole day today, incase anyone wants to empty their wallets: http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/08/25/grab-your-wallets-and-prepare-your-credit-card-amazon-all-video-games-gold-box-event-kicks-off-tomorrow/ | 09:05 |
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| Romster | Twitch streaming services? | 09:11 |
| diverse | Romster: yeah | 09:15 |
| joacim | hope that sale includes norway | 09:36 |
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| diverse | joacim: did you verify that it does? | 09:43 |
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| joacim | not yet. will look when i get home | 10:27 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: ncmpc: 0.22 -> 0.24 | 12:58 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: mpd: 0.18.11 -> 0.18.12 | 12:58 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: p5-net-dns: 0.78 -> 0.79 | 13:12 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: vala: 0.25.1 -> 0.25.2 | 13:13 |
| teK_ | cruxbot seems to be fixed, isn't? :) | 13:13 |
| teK_ | and yes I "did" that | 13:13 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: wireshark: 1.10.7 -> 1.12.0 | 13:18 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: libjpeg: replaced by libjpeg-turbo | 13:19 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: libmng: updated to 2.0.2 | 13:19 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: libpng: updated to 1.6.7 | 13:19 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: gvim: upate to 7.4.94 | 13:19 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.0]: apr: update to 1.5.0, apr-utils: update to 1.5.3 | 13:19 |
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| diverse | teK_: umm... ^ | 13:19 |
| teK_ | :P | 13:19 |
| teK_ | "did" | 13:19 |
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| diverse | teK_: you spoke too soon | 13:20 |
| teK_ | indeed | 13:20 |
| teK_ | Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. | 13:20 |
| diverse | teK_: I wonder how your "significant other" will think about this? :P | 13:24 |
| teK_ | she's not gossipy | 13:25 |
| diverse | teK_: not that one, the other one, hence the quotes :P | 13:26 |
| teK_ | ahahaha | 13:26 |
| diverse | (for a second there I thought you were calling him a "she") | 13:29 |
| teK_ | maybe I meant the other one by referring to 'her' anyway? :P | 13:29 |
| teK_ | hahaha | 13:29 |
| diverse | oh okay | 13:29 |
| diverse | rofl | 13:29 |
| diverse | teK_: now I kind of feel bad talking behind 'her' back. :P | 13:31 |
| teK_ | stop it already :D | 13:32 |
| diverse | Now I'm coming up with so many jokes, I can't help myself | 13:36 |
| teK_ | note the fact that he is opped | 13:36 |
| teK_ | we have had nine kicks in #crux since 2010 | 13:38 |
| teK_ | eight. | 13:38 |
| diverse | teK_: frinnst is a cool guy, plus he doesn't care about what I say. Plus with all the standoffs you 2 were having, you might have already been kicked out from those 8 or 9 times... oh fuck... I'm screwed, aren't I? | 13:40 |
| teK_ | basically. | 13:40 |
| diverse | hahahaha | 13:40 |
| diverse | that explains all the kicks from #crux :P | 13:43 |
| teK_ | gotta pick up my significant other. rb. | 13:43 |
| teK_ | brb | 13:43 |
| diverse | nice chatting with you | 13:44 |
| frinnst | I dont think i've ever triggered a cruxbot spam-flood when pushing | 14:32 |
| frinnst | What kind of magic do you do when pushing? | 14:33 |
| teK_ | and with you, diverse | 14:40 |
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| pedja | (wrt popler-glib update) i get this error http://paste.lisp.org/+32QH (files already installed), but 'prt-get fsearch $foo' doesn't find any of the files. | 16:46 |
| frinnst | probably because they arent really owned by any package. as in they are automagically created if you have qt5 installed | 16:48 |
| frinnst | grep after them in your db | 16:49 |
| pedja | frinnst: yup, they are in the db. | 16:53 |
| pedja | I will modify poppler-glib not to build them, and make poppler-qt5 port, then. | 16:56 |
| jue | pedja: guess we need a additional '--disable-qt5' in poppler, poppler-glib and poppler-qt4? | 17:08 |
| jue | should be read as --disable-poppler-qt5 ;) | 17:10 |
| pedja | jue: since qt5 is in opt now, yes :) | 17:11 |
| jue | ok, will do | 17:12 |
| pedja | kde devs have a wicked sense of humor, with 'systemd will be hard dep for kde5.x' :) | 17:13 |
| pedja | partially true, it will be for wayland part ;).for now... | 17:15 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: poppler: disable build of the qt5 library | 17:18 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: poppler-glib: disable build of the qt5 library | 17:18 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: poppler-qt4: disable build of the qt5 library | 17:18 |
| pedja | now, THATS what I call user support.Suck it, *buntu ;) | 17:23 |
| frinnst | <pedja> kde devs have a wicked sense of humor, with 'systemd will be hard dep for kde5.x' :) | 17:26 |
| frinnst | lolwut? | 17:26 |
| diverse | was that on april fools day? | 17:28 |
| Rotwang | lets have everything dependent on the init system | 17:28 |
| Rotwang | is of great idea | 17:28 |
| pedja | frinnst: https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/Pw31EE21BXV | 17:29 |
| pedja | afk (beer time [tm]) | 17:30 |
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| frinnst | pedja: so it will not be a hard dep for kde 5.x.. it will be a hard dep for wayland-kwin | 19:26 |
| frinnst | pretty big difference :) | 19:26 |
| pedja | frinnst: yes, but the reaction of the people is interesting.given the borg mentality of systemd devs, who knows what's in the future :) | 19:31 |
| pedja | i don't care about kde that much, but I have high hopes in xfce devs sanity. | 19:32 |
| pedja | pool of non-systemd distros is shrinking rapidly.'Come to Crux, we have cookies (and no systemd in forseable(sp?) future' :) | 19:34 |
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| jaeger | we seem to be rapidly approaching a time when there will be no alternative | 19:38 |
| pedja | jaeger: how will this work ?http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd | 19:41 |
| jaeger | no idea | 19:42 |
| pedja | since systemd is very linux specific | 19:42 |
| pedja | hopefully, Linus will bust some heads/kick some dev ass :) | 19:43 |
| pedja | but, i am not holding my breath... | 19:44 |
| tkln | i don't think he really gives a shit, after all it's user space stuff. | 19:46 |
| pedja | tkln: he gives a shit when they break userspace or kernel debug ability | 19:47 |
| pedja | takeover of kernel komand line switches is a BadIdea[tm] | 19:49 |
| tkln | yeah, but i don't think single occurrences like that will have much effect on the general trend of systemd spreading. | 19:51 |
| pedja | tkln: agreed. | 19:52 |
| pedja | kitchen-sink init.what's not to like. | 19:53 |
| pedja | every time i look at hardware prices in eu, i cry a little.then i look at us prices, and cry some more :) | 20:02 |
| pedja | j/k, no crying. | 20:02 |
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| diverse | pedja: I wouldn't get your hopes up about Linus fighting off the systemd brigade, the only thing he cares about most is no interference with his kernel development. | 20:11 |
| diverse | if you mess with his kernel, you are definitely going down | 20:11 |
| diverse | :) | 20:11 |
| diverse | I wonder why systemd would even be a hard dep for kwin in wayland, I find that hard to reason about. Unless wayland is becoming a systemd convert... | 20:13 |
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| diverse | If it taking over everything, before you know, you might hear people say: "Oh yeah, systemd, great operating system, the only thing it lacks is a decent init system" :P | 20:36 |
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| nrxtx | jaeger: if there will be the time of no alternative time has come to use the bsd kernel :D | 22:05 |
| nrxtx | the parts the wayland-* is using of systemd is the session creation/user verification at login | 22:05 |
| nrxtx | should not be hard to patch that out | 22:05 |
| diverse | nrxtx: why is wayland using systemd at all? | 22:06 |
| nrxtx | login verification in weston | 22:06 |
| diverse | that's weird | 22:07 |
| diverse | if the *bsds want to use wayland they would want to patch that out anyway | 22:08 |
| nrxtx | wayland itself does not depend on systemd. the window manager weston/wayland-kwin use the session manager of systemd for login | 22:08 |
| nrxtx | diverse: exactly | 22:08 |
| diverse | I see | 22:08 |
| nrxtx | and as long qt/kde wants to be cross-platform they have to provide a non-systemd way | 22:08 |
| diverse | hopefully there will be more choice in WMs that don't use a session manager in wayland | 22:11 |
| diverse | nrxtx: the likely hood of most X11 WMs being ported to wayland is pretty small, I assume? | 22:18 |
| nrxtx | before that is going to happen driver for most of the graphic chips need to be provided, most only support x | 22:19 |
| nrxtx | have some wayland ports around, started to get weston working without systemd | 22:20 |
| nrxtx | last time i tried it was possible by default running it without systemd if you provide a login/session before using weston | 22:21 |
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| teK___ | < hashbreaker> Nice to see systemd finally integrating Firefox into pid 1. The benchmarks show clear improvements in the post-boot browser startup latency. | 23:22 |
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| BitPuffin | pkgadd: rejecting etc/udev/udev.conf, keeping existing version | 23:49 |
| BitPuffin | hmm | 23:49 |
| BitPuffin | well gonna have to look at that tomorrow | 23:51 |
| BitPuffin | it's sleepytime | 23:51 |
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