IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2014-09-06

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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-xf86-video-nouveau: update to 1.0.1110:01
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: mesa3d: update to 10.2.710:01
nrxtxhow often do they push out updates on mesa? :D10:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: courier-unicode: initial release10:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] maildrop: update to 2.7.2, new dependency opt/courier-unicode10:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: mc: update to 4.8.1310:04
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: ca-certificates: update to 2014090310:06
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: glib: refined patch10:46
BitPuffinhmm that's weird11:03
BitPuffinI have /usr/bin/chfn in both shadow and util-linux11:03
BitPuffinso I can't update util-linux11:04
BitPuffinand chsh11:04
juedo you use a modified util-linux port?11:10
BitPuffinnah11:11
BitPuffinboth from core11:11
juebut you get a footprint error while building util-linux?11:11
BitPuffinutil-linux#2.25.1 borked it11:12
BitPuffinI did11:12
BitPuffinso I used -uf11:12
BitPuffinbut then pkgadd says that the files already exist on the filesystem11:12
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BitPuffinhttps://gist.github.com/BitPuffin/d7aefc30c48803b66fbd11:13
jueyeah, that's correct, chfn belongs to the shadow package11:13
BitPuffinyeah but 2.25.1 has it too now11:14
jueno, not in the official build11:14
BitPuffinbut then why am I getting it 3:11:14
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jueseems that you have something installed we don't11:15
BitPuffinyeah probably11:15
BitPuffinbut I don't know what11:15
BitPuffinthe only extra port collection I have is my own11:16
BitPuffinand that only includes opensmtpd and syncthing11:16
BitPuffinhttps://gist.github.com/37b402b4b991852ba57a11:18
BitPuffinthat's everything I have installed11:18
juelooks like you have linux-pam installed?11:18
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BitPuffinyeah11:19
jueyeah, just see your list now11:19
jueit's pam that causes the ch* stuff to install11:20
juewill fix11:20
BitPuffingreat!11:20
BitPuffinI guess it's just a flag to ./configure11:20
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: util-linux: explicit disable chfn, chsh and runuser11:32
jueBitPuffin: do you use pam?11:33
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BitPuffinjue: yeah I do11:37
BitPuffinfor dovecot and opensmtpd11:37
jueok11:38
BitPuffinis that bad?11:38
BitPuffinI quite like pam11:38
jueno, I'm just curious :)11:39
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BitPuffinah okay :)11:55
diverseI recently just thought of using vnc to remote into my phone instead of having to monitor my phone all the time, but then I realized I had to root it in order to vnc inside, sigh...12:05
nrxtxdiverse: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=XMPP&fdid=org.projectmaxs.main12:07
diversehmm?12:08
nrxtxat least if it is an android phone12:08
diverseinteresting12:08
nrxtxhttp://projectmaxs.org/documentation/quickstart.html12:09
diversehmm, I wonder if I can run a local private XMPP service, instead of having to rely on a public one?12:14
nrxtxyou can set up an ejabberd in your local network, but then it is limit to your home network12:16
diverseno problem for me12:16
nrxtxi have the ports for ejabberd around here, i could push them to my repo if you are interested12:17
diversewhy not?12:18
diversein your experience, do you find the XMPP protocol better than VNC, for remoting?12:19
nrxtxyou won't have a gui in case of maxs12:22
nrxtxits more like chatting with your phone12:22
diverselike SSH?12:23
diversenrxtx: is it some sort of prompt?12:25
diverseI guess it is12:27
nrxtxlike your phone becoming an irc bot12:28
diverseafter seeing the intro, yep http://projectmaxs.org/documentation/introduction.html12:28
diverseI see a use for transferring clipboards from my computer to phone with this12:29
nrxtxwhat you can do depends on the modules you install on the phone12:30
diverseI wonder if there is a skype module to send and get messages?12:34
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diversefrom my phone of course12:37
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: nginx: update to 1.6.1 and adjust footprint for new perl version16:44
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: dcraw: update to 9.22, uses lcms2 instead of lcms17:06
nwehello, after I upgraded to kernel 3.16 my synaptics touchpad stop to work.. I cant see it in dmesg.. any idea?17:11
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: dcraw-utils: update fake version number to 617:12
frinnstyes, dont use 3.16 :)17:16
frinnstfile a bug on kernel.org ?17:16
tilmando some research first17:16
tilmansynaptics being so popular its likely you're the only one seeing this problem17:16
nwefrinnst: it stopped working after kernel 3.14.817:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: exiftool: update to 9.7017:18
mike_kshould simple dd work for partitions of identical size on different drives (SSD)?17:20
tilmanmike_k: i believe it should. and if it doesn't, fsck would probably tell you about it17:22
mike_ktilman: thanks17:24
mike_kand a simple dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb should trim the available space on the second drive if it was larger?17:24
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mike_khmm, probably without extended partitiona chances are higher17:25
tilmani don't know about copying a whole disk if they are not identical...17:25
tilman.oO(block sizes)17:26
mike_kokay, I could just try. it should be easier than cp/rsync/tar. and I just want to make a fast copy to boot from it any time. bootloader is another concern of course17:30
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hhhhhhhhin general, do you need firmware for touchpads19:00
hhhhhhhhmine is showing up as a logitech mouse and synclient is saying synaptics module isn't loaded, but it works19:00
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nwehhhhhhhh: I dont have any firmware for this, I havent downloading anyone..19:17
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nwehmm if I enable multitouch20:16
nwehid-support, my synaptic touchscreen start working.. but my mouse  doesnt work.. I dont even find it in /proc/bus/input/devices..20:17
nweon kernel 3.14.8 xinput find it as SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=11   [slave  pointer  (2)]...20:18
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xveei've noticed when running mint, the area near the power supply unit on my laptop doesn't make any noise; however, when running crux, there is a faint whistle. what can cause this?23:12
hhhhhhhhxvee: laptop-mode-tools maybe23:13
xveedont have it installed, but let me get it in here and check it out. thanks23:14
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xveeseems laptop mode helepd a little. it stops squealing when i do something with the computer. ill mess with the settings and figure it out. thanks23:24
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