IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2014-09-12

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libva-vdpau-driver: fixes compile issue FS#105902:53
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Romsterseems like libva-vdpau-driver breaks every other release of dependencies07:52
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gimp: update md5sum08:28
Romsterdid you forget too or silent update?08:33
Romsteroh just a old cve file.08:34
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: qt3: fix source08:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: fpc: fix source08:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: flock: fix source09:14
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: urlview: fix source09:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: dialog: updated to 1.2-2014091109:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: cmake: updated to 3.0.209:40
Amnesiaare you folks still pushing security updates to 3.0 ?09:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: slim-themes: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.609:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: ipw2200-fw: fix source09:58
Romsteranything in particular Amnesia ?09:58
Romsternot upgraded to 3.1 yet?09:58
Amnesianope, not yet10:00
AmnesiaI should though^%^10:00
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: ckermit: 8.0.211 -> 9.0.30210:17
RomsterAmnesia, other than a fw minor things, it's pretty painless to upgrade.10:19
Romsteri personally haven't got time to support older releases of crux.10:20
Romsterbad enough as it is now with the current one xD10:20
Amnesiano problemo, I should just upgrafde10:21
Amnesiawhat's left after I upgrade after booting the 3.1 livecd?10:21
Romstersince the 3.2 upgrade xorg-server has an extra dependency libepoxy10:21
Romsterthat'll need ot be manually installed before a sysup10:22
Amnesiaand that's it?10:22
Romsterediting rc.conf adding lo to services10:22
Romsteras that's split out of net now.10:22
Romster"ip a" find your new nic name and edit /etc/rc.d/net to suit that name.10:23
Romsterafter your on 3.210:23
Amnesiahas this been documented?10:23
Romsterand after xorg-server sysup then you got to rebuid input/video ports of xorg.10:24
Romsterother than upgrade xorg-server has an extra dependency libepoxy10:24
Romsterwhich happend after 3.2 was released.10:24
Amnesia3.1 you mean?10:24
Romsteroh sorry sed 3.2/3.110:24
Romsternot there yet...10:25
Amnesiahas this been documented somewhere?10:25
Romsterit's been a long week.10:25
Amnesiayeah, weekend's always welcome..10:25
Romsterthat'll get you to 3.1 but a prt-get sysup will need you to manually install libepoxy if you using xorg10:26
Romsterand if your using gstreamer stuff i've totally renamed ports.10:27
Romsterwith -compat for the older gstreamer stuff and normal names are now 1.4.1x versions.10:27
Romsteroh and webkit i've split as well...10:27
Romsterif you use that.10:27
Romsterthat's about all. just don't forget rejmerge and revdep after as libpng upgrade broke pretty much everything.10:28
Amnesiawhy's mesa3d built using llvm?10:28
Romsterto rebuild.10:28
Amnesiait's pretty lame to have two compilers installed because one package depends on it:P10:29
Romsterfor ati stuff.10:29
Romsterclang has been seperated form llvm.10:29
Romsterto reduce compile time of llvm10:29
Romsteras mesa3d needs llvm and not clang. wich llvm used to have both.10:29
Romsterhi nwe10:30
AmnesiaI'll throw it out afterwards, since I don't have any ati crap..:p10:30
Romsteryou might have to edit mesa3d then to recompile later on.10:30
Romsterpersonally i don't mind got clang installed and if it worked on everything i'd toss out gcc10:31
Romsteroh and if your nuts i'll push my firefox-pgo package to romster/ repo for you and others to mess with.10:31
Romsterrunning it stable here for a few weeks now.10:32
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Romsterif you wanna wait twice as long for it to compile and consume like 10GB in the process of building to get some extra speed.10:32
Amnesiapgo stands for?10:33
RomsterProfile Guided Optimization10:34
Romsteri do have a firefox-pgo built package but it's from my machine so it wont always be as fast on another machine.
Romsterjust to clear confusion on webkit-gtk2, webkit-gtk3, and webkitgtk. they are API versions 2, 3, and 4.10:45
Romsterall can be installed at the same time.10:45
Romstereach port can decide what API it wants to use.10:45
Romsterthere will be no foreseeable updates to webkit-gtk2 and webkit-gtk3.10:46
frinnstheh, what a mess10:49
frinnststupid gtk crap10:49
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: transcode: fix for FS#105711:15
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BitPuffinhmm I can't seem to get my mouse working17:16
BitPuffinthat's a first17:16
BitPuffinactually hang on I'm stupid :P17:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: firefox: updated to 32.0.118:01
frinnsthave fun rebuilding18:01
joacimhaha. you losers who installed xorg and all that crap18:05
BitPuffinwell I don't have to update it on my server at least :P18:09
BitPuffinmaybe I should just switch to surf or something18:10
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diversefrinnst: rebuilding is no problem, thanks for updating :)18:52
diverseI agree it shouldn't be, just by looking at the url :P19:22
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joacim6. It only takes 5 minutes19:25
joacimIt'll really take 5 hours19:26
diverseI think 6 would be implicitly part of number 4, because of "They will suck up your time and resources. They will not be grateful. They will involve you in 30 minute hypothetical conversations then disagree with your expertise."19:33
diversefrinnst: great find, I like it19:33
diverseI would like to add that when asking for money, don't charge at a fixed price, setup an hourly wage protocol with the client before offering your services, that way the longer they keep you, the more money you make and it only hurts them if they keep your longer, based on number 4 and joacim's number 6 rule19:41
diverseas the saying goes "time is money" :)19:45
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diversehmm considering the gtx 770 sucks up 230 watts vs the 250 watts that the gtx 780 takes, which is just 9% extra watts for the extra %50 boost in performance, I think I would be better off getting the gtx 780, imo21:39
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diversealthough the downside being it costs more21:40
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diverseokay, not 50%, it's 30%21:44
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