IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2014-09-19

abyxcosthetornainbow: All you need is one to publish.00:02
abyxcosthetornainbow: Because if you needed it, chances are good someone else will too.00:02
thetornainbowyeah so far i have bar, dwb, gnubg, xdotool, and termite00:03
thetornainbowalthough i don't think i should publish bar or dwb as it appears elsewhere00:03
thetornainbownamely z3bra's repo00:04
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abyxcosI've replicated stuff because obviously I can write ports better than random people from the internet.00:04
abyxcosBut also not having to add multiple repos per goal package is nice.00:05
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thetornainbowyeah i think z3bra's got it under control00:06
abyxcosAs a user, I much prefer self-contained repos, rather than repos that have missing deps from someone else's repo.00:06
thetornainbowthat is one thing i've made sure to do, all deps are available in /opt. with the exception of gnubg, which needed Romster's gtkglext port00:07
thetornainbowfor an individual port from someone's repo, do you usually just grab the Pkgfile and make it or add their whole repo just for that one port?00:08
abyxcosDepends. For a true one-off, I'll pull the Pkgfile, but if it has more than one dependency, I'll add the repo.00:19
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Worksterthetornainbow, i can move that gtkglext to contrib later00:50
thetornainbowWorkster: you work too hard :)00:51
Worksteri always do00:51
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gtkglext: romster -> contrib04:38
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Romsterhttp://crux.ster.zone/packages/3.1/chromium%2337.0.2062.120-1.pkg.tar.xz uploading for those with slow computers.04:45
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Romsterthetornainbow, ^04:46
Romsterthetornainbow, poke teK__ to get your ports listed on our http://crux.nu/portdb/ since sepen is busy lately.04:46
RomsterteK__, i did save yhafri ports http://crux.ster.zone/unmaintained/yhafri/ :P enjoy04:46
Romsterlate lunch now afk back to work.04:46
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nweGood morning!!07:16
nwehow are you guys??07:16
frinnstfuck you! im tired! :p07:18
nwelol :D07:19
nwesee you woke up on the right side ;)07:19
Romsteri've had one of them days so fuck you too :P07:26
Romsterso much crap was on i don't wanna even describe it all...07:26
Romsterfuck it going to get food and alcohol07:26
nwe:/07:31
teK__\o/07:32
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: xterm: updated to 31107:54
ChloeDfootprint for current pygtk is wrong. Notified the maintainer08:09
ChloeDa mere pkgmk -uf fixes it08:10
frinnstNEW or MISSING?08:16
ChloeDwas missing IIRC08:27
ChloeDin the doc/08:27
ChloeDthough I can't swear08:28
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cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: dhcpcd: update to 6.4.508:56
Romsterand my brother turns up unannounced. looks like it'll be a drinking night for sure.09:02
frinnstlol09:02
teK__\o/09:04
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z3braFixed 2bwm \o/10:06
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: tdb: update to 1.3.111:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fcgi: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fpm: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-mysql: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: mod_php: update to 5.5.1711:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: ruby: update to 2.1.311:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: ruby-doc: update to 2.1.311:50
ChloeDlet's test cups.11:55
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_root_hello guys; It is a problem of mine for sometime now   http://pasteboard.co/i7m38b5.png12:06
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prologicdoes anyone here know any of the freenode staff?12:49
frinnstnope, but I bet they have a support channel or whatever13:12
frinnst_root_: ?13:13
prologicheh13:20
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frinnstarr, talk like a pirate day!13:47
Feigrimtorrents, warez, DCC bots, Direct Connect13:49
teK__:o13:51
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diverseonly at the piratebay :P14:17
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diversefrinnst: arrr, how be you doin'?14:20
joacimhavent seen anything about that day on my file procuring sites14:22
diversespeak like a pirate, matey!14:28
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ChloeD^14:37
joacim^^,14:37
ChloeDlearning about how Gtk and printing works14:38
diverse'tis fun t' do! Go t' this site, type yer text in English 'n press th' translate button 'n off ye go, arrr! http://pirate.monkeyness.com/online_pirate_translator14:38
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ChloeDto enable cups printing one will need to install cups before gtk14:43
frinnstyes, if you want to print from gtk apps14:43
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joacimhttp://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_Cooler/11.html14:54
joacimthe game is 7 years old, and they still use it to benchmark new cards?14:54
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diversethe heck, gtx 970?15:04
diversedid nvidia just skip an iteration?15:05
joacimwant one, but i still think my GTX 660 is good enough15:05
jaeger800 series are mobile15:05
diverseoh15:05
joacimmight wait for the witcher 3. see what kind of system requirements that game has15:05
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diverseheh, and here I was planning to get a gtx 780 ti15:05
joacimwhy? just get a 980 =)15:06
diversewell I just heard about the 900 series15:06
joacimthe difference between the two isn't huge15:06
joacimand i guess the old cards will be a little cheaper soon15:07
diverseI should check the specs, maybe the 980 will consume less power than the 780 ti15:07
joacimabout the same i think15:08
diverseokay, their database is not updated15:09
joacimthat review i linked to has a page about power consumption15:09
joacimGTX 980 consumes a lot less it seems15:10
diversesurprisingly it does15:12
diverseeven slightly more power efficient than the 97015:13
joacimmy old GeForce 256 DDR consumes a lot less15:14
joacimand it supports vr glasses and has an s-video input15:15
diversenvidia must of master the new chipset pretty well to get it that way for the 900 series compared to the 780/780 ti15:15
diverse*mastered15:15
joacimthey've been saying for a long time that the new cards will consume less power. i just assumed that was marketing for "they'll consume the same, just perform faster"15:16
diverseThe problem I saw with the 700 series is that it consumed a lot more than it's predecessor.15:20
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diverseand there wasn't much power consumption difference either, so I thought, just get the 780 ti15:22
diverseI suppose nvidia goes through up and down trends15:23
diversejoacim: what's your favorite nvidia brand?15:25
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joacimdiverse: did you get my reply?15:32
diversejoacim: I didn't :(15:32
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diverseI suppose I could check the logs15:33
joacim2014-09-19 17:27:41 joacim I like their older stuff more than their new stuff15:34
joacim2014-09-19 17:28:02 joacim my Abit NF7-S 2 is pretty sweet. Has the nForce2 Ultra chipset.15:34
joacim2014-09-19 17:28:10 joacim I like my Riva TNT2 Pro as well15:34
diversethanks15:34
joacimI don't think they're as cool as teh ATI Rage Fury MAXX or the Voodoo5 550015:35
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diversehmm, I wonder how efficient it would be to use DisplayPort instead of DVI for multi-monitors?15:41
jaegerthe cables are smaller and easier to use (latch vs. screw)15:42
jaegereither way the signal is digital, no analog conversion needed (if the monitor has the port for it)15:42
diverseunforunately, my monitors don't, but I assume I can get DVI to DisplayPort adapters?15:43
jaegeryes15:43
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diversejaeger: since it's a digital to digital conversion, there won't be any transmission lost, correct?15:45
jaegertheoretically no. If the cables are crappy or extremely long, perhaps15:45
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jaegerto add a bit to the brand discussion of nvidia cards, MSI has done really well with the 600/700 series of making the best cooler (noise/performance)15:46
jaegerI wonder if that'll continue with the 900s15:46
diversejaeger: there are starting at least: http://us.msi.com/product/vga/GTX_970_GAMING_4G.html15:47
diverseonly their twin frozer is on the 970 atm15:47
jaegerI know they're making them, I mean that I wonder if they'll be the best coolers for the 900 generation15:48
jaegerinteresting that they list the max dvi-d res as 2048x153615:49
jaegerI have a 2560x1440 monitor and have to use the DVI-D port on my GTX 68015:49
diverseI hope that the 2048x1536 is a typo15:50
jaegerI expect it is but who knows? very weird15:52
diversemaybe that's why the cards are significantly more power efficient?15:52
diversehmm, if you look at the 770 here, you would see that each connector doesn't set a specific size and that the max display output is 2560x1600: http://us.msi.com/product/vga/N770_TF_2GD5OC.html#hero-specification15:55
joacimI usually buy the card that is the least gamer looking (and is somewhat quiet)15:57
joacimdon't care if it is by asus, gigabyte, msi, club3d15:57
diversethe asus cards look pretty solid, although I heard from reviews that the cards cause sag on the pci slot. I don't know if that just because of poor tightening of the card?16:10
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sepenhi16:21
sepenenjoy it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPwfLe13Uo16:21
joacimdiverse: long cards with heavy coolers can do that16:32
joacimit is like those really long audio cards from back in the day. the ones that werent quite long enough to reach the support bracket near the front of the case. many of those cards are now bent16:32
joacimMy case has a support pad for long graphics cards, and you can support your case using some zip ties16:33
joacimsupport your card*16:34
diversejoacim: yeah, the coolers on the asus cards look very heavy16:39
diversesigh, the msi 980 is 10cm longer than the 970, not fun16:43
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frinnstjoacim: lol nvidia nforce217:59
frinnstwhat a shitty chipset that was17:59
frinnstbut i guess all amd chipsets were shit back then17:59
tilmani think i might have had the same abit motherboard18:00
tilmanand it worked just fine18:00
tilmanhaters gonna hate18:00
frinnstit was not very stable iirc18:00
frinnstand drivers sucked18:00
frinnstbut sure, it was better than my sis735 based motherboard18:00
frinnstnow *that* was shit18:00
frinnst:p18:00
frinnstecs k7s5a18:01
frinnsthttp://images.esellerpro.com/2131/I/502/25/DCP_9462.JPG18:03
joacimfrinnst: I kinda remember that anything not-intel was kinda shit =)18:04
joacimi do like my nforce2u. it worked well. never crashed, but i can remember sound could stutter in some games.18:06
diversethose nostalgic moments18:06
joacimintel was shit too tho. 440bx didn't officially support a 133 MHz FSB, but was easy to overclock, and many board manufacturers did18:07
joacimproblem was it also overclocked the agp bus18:07
joacimthe i815 didn't perform as well, but supported 133 MHz FSB18:08
joacimit had that shitty onboard audio and video too18:08
frinnst440bx was brilliant18:50
frinnstrock solid18:50
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terrorizorhey is crux plan to move to systemd?20:08
teK__we will start planning the transition on April 1st 201520:12
terrorizorstrange I dont see that on website20:14
teK__you should think about the reason ;)20:17
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terrorizortried droppin in kernel to boot, but it just starts to load but  errors and says kernel too old.20:42
teK__dropin kernel? Which version?20:45
frinnstyou must run a 3.10 or newer kernel in 3.120:51
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diverseteK__: you are clever :)21:26
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: mesa3d: updated to 10.2.821:26
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teK__as if.21:29
diversemodest, aren't we?21:30
teK__I don't know about you :}21:30
diversesometimes21:31
teK__good21:32
diverseI could use a good laugh about now. teK__ do one of your frinnst-teK comedies21:36
teK__poking him in -devel atm ;)21:37
diverseI suppose I have to join?21:38
teK__well we don't have a key set21:38
diverseteK__: got one :P21:40
teK__you could have followed the ircbot's logs, too21:41
diversetoo lazy :)21:41
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: firefox: updated to 32.0.222:00
diversefrinnst: thanks for updating firefox :)22:00
frinnstno problem. I like the hate22:02
frinnst;)22:02
teK__it gets you out of your bed every morning22:03
diverseheh :)22:04
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diversefrinnst: pm22:15
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