IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2014-09-30

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rocxprologic: Well, it's not "brand spanking new", since the hard drive did have Crunchbang on it before.00:06
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prologicso you quite literally installed crux over the top of this? :)00:12
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rocxBad idea? Had a bit of difficulty with fdisk, going through this for the first time and all as a learning experience.00:14
FaymA bit yeah.00:15
FaymYou /can/ do it.  Just need to nuke everything but /home, /root and a bunch of /var (if you have databases or mail stashed there)00:16
prologicyeah totally a bad idea00:18
prologicI’m surprised it works at all :000:18
prologicyou best start over, fdisk and make a new sil system00:18
prologicand follow the install guide :)00:18
prologicwhat Faym said :)00:18
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rocxGoing straight from Xubuntu to this, so some parts of the guide may fly over my head. Guess it's time for a DBAN to start from scratch.00:21
prologicit’s mostly about understanding the software you are installing and using00:22
prologicstart with a basic console-only install and follow the guide00:22
prologicyou should get a working system with patience :)00:22
prologicthen install xorg and fluxbox or similar to start off with00:23
prologicsimplest and quickest wm ihmo00:23
prologicalso a tip: many of the Arch wiki pages are very helpful and relevant for various bits of software and many are quite translatable to crux and the way we do things around here00:23
rocxArch Wiki's been helpful long before. Don't know what I'd do without it.00:24
prologicyeah :)00:26
jaegerunlike aliens, you don't have to nuke it from orbit00:28
jaegeryou can even reuse the crunchbang partitions if you want, just need new filesystems00:28
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WorksterFaym, i'm using pkg-not from sepen to lok for untracked files, but if pkgadd says it's already there it's from a previous port that has it on your system. pkgadd -f -u filenname, but use with care01:38
Worksterprologic, no need use pkg-not find all the untracked files remove those that need to go.01:39
prologicisn’t there another tool in prt-utils that does something ismilar?01:41
Worksterno sure.01:43
Worksterpkg-not should go in prt-utils in my opinion01:43
Worksterwhy redo a system when you can find untracked files?01:43
prologicthere’s prtcheckmissing01:43
prologicand prtorphan01:43
Worksterprtorphon checks for orphaned files or ports? not on crux atm01:44
prologicpkg-not is new to me01:44
prologicI’ll check it out at home ;)01:44
Worksterdon't think it's hosted anywhere01:47
Worksteri was going to write a tool that did this but sepen beat me to it so i've been using his.01:50
Worksterprtorhpan - list orphaned ports on your CRUX system01:50
Worksteryeah not file based like pkg-not01:50
Worksterpkg/not /usr/lib01:51
Worksterpkg-not /usr/lib01:51
Worksterman i arn't doing so good on typing01:51
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Worksterjust be careful of cache files and configuration files like kernel .config etc. as the majority are not tracked by pkgutils. if oyu plan to feed pkg-not to rm01:56
prologichmm thanks Workster01:56
prologicI’ll check it out01:56
prologicI’m still confused as to what it does exactly :)01:57
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Worksterit lists files that are not listed in the database.02:01
Worksterlike oops yo installed a port that didn't goto $PKG onto your system and didn't use fakeroot, pkg-not will find those files.02:02
prologicahh I see02:02
Workstereasy to clean readd pkackages no need to redo kernel after formatting and partitioning again.02:03
prologicso basicaly the inverse of prtcheckmissing02:03
prologicI think02:03
Worksteryes for files02:03
Worksterso if you installed crux over a another ditro you can then find and remove untracked files.02:03
Worksterthat are not in the database02:03
Worksterwont for for file conflicts between different packages though that are already in the database.02:04
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Romsterit's so wet and windy here today, is it like that up where you are prologic ?02:23
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prologicno not really02:26
prologicthere was no way to copy the “google weather data"02:28
Romsterdoes not say what is happening right now though02:28
prologicI kinda like some of the builtin stuff google does02:28
prologicsure it does02:28
prologic26 and sunny :)02:28
prologicthough in my office I wouldn’t know :)02:28
prologicwhen I go for lunch coffee I’ll tell you what it’s like outside ;)(02:29
Romsterlike chance of rain days does not say if it is raining currrently etc02:29
Romsterdon't they have a public API02:29
Romsterheh office worker...02:29
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prologicso are you :)02:31
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Romsteryeah but i get to go to clients and businesses so i get to go out in it02:38
Romsterthen there is sometimes the long drive to delver a copier etc.02:39
prologicsure okay02:40
prologicso you’re a mobile officer worker :)02:40
Romsterpretty much but i do spend a lot of time in a workshop too.02:40
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Romsterhmm why did i ping off at work...02:41
prologicso you *are* an office jokey :)02:41
Romsterit's on a UPS02:41
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Romsteri am but i get to go out on jobs02:41
Romstergetting power brownouts today and short blackouts of a few seconds...02:42
Romsterhmm precipitation graph neat02:47
Romsterhaven't seen any site do that per the hour02:47
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nwegood morning05:10
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: xterm: updated to 31208:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: speech-dispatcher: updated to 0.8.108:05
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: openldap: updated to 2.4.4008:05
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gstreamer: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:16
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-base: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:16
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-good: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-bad: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-plugins-ugly: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gst-libav: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.309:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gstreamer-vaapi: 0.5.9pre -> 0.5.910:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gstreamer-vaapi-compat: 0.5.6 -> 0.5.910:01
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rocxThink I got it installed properly now. Is X supposed to be running on boot by default or something?14:52
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rmullrocx: I don't think so... is yours?15:08
rocxNo, it's not. I just think I have it installed right since I have something running at least.15:09
rmullIt doesn't give you much out of the box, just a blank slate15:13
tilmanno bash update today?15:18
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openfbtdall the bash updates!15:28
openfbtdUpdate bash all day! Everyday!15:29
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diversebash updates, bash updates everywhere17:57
openfbtdThey see me updaaatin'17:57
openfbtdThey haaatin'17:57
diversejaeger: did your gtx 970 got shipped yet?18:00
diversethe low to zero availability on these cards is ticking me off a bit18:02
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jaegerdiverse: nope19:04
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: spice-gtk: 0.23 -> 0.2419:41
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: spice: 0.12.4 -> 0.12.519:41
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rmullI didn't realize you could do all this madness with just CSS(3):
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libgcrypt: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.221:06
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