IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2014-10-17

dxlr8rjoacim: OS X gets it right. I get english language on all apps, but norwegian formatting for numbers, date etc.00:00
dxlr8rand it has always worked, since Mac OS Classic days actually :)00:01
joacimos x is decent like that00:02
joacimapple applications are always in norwegian on my mostly english windows 7 setup tho =)00:02
dxlr8ralways used english for my operativ systems. but OS X english has a lot of spelling errors00:04
dxlr8rlike color instead of colour etc. I know the americans spell a lot of words wrong, but then the language selection should say "north american english" and not just "english"00:05
dxlr8rhate how the americans just rewrites history and makes american english the "plain english"00:05
dxlr8rMac OS Classic actually had a British and an US release, that stopped in OS X00:06
dxlr8rcan still get firefox in plain english though00:06
joacimI think I set mine to "plain" english00:08
dxlr8rhaven't experimentet to much in linux, so I use US english there00:08
joacimthinking about reconfiguring my locales, so users logging in by ssh get their local charset instead of getting the system charset forced by the shell00:09
dxlr8rand windows... well, I am afraid it will break :P black box operativ system which I try to keep as vanilla as possible00:09
dxlr8rso US english there to00:09
joacimunicode has always been a little annoying i think. but it isn't as bad now as it used to be00:10
dxlr8rjoacim: ok? then you would need generate a lot of locales00:10
joacimit used to be that i had to beg the sysadmin of debian servers to install unicode locales =)00:10
joacimI don't think the server should dictate the locales00:11
dxlr8rhehe :) I only use utf8 on windows too. as a norwegian it's easier00:11
dxlr8rerr. linux i meant00:12
joacimpeople used to be banned for using unicode with their irc clients00:12
joacimtook a long while before people figured out that their version of mirc was pretty outdated00:12
dxlr8rjoacim: true, don't know how to do that in crux, a lot of localedef I think :P combine it in some script and generate every combination. what would be side effects?00:12
dxlr8rhehe :P yeah, remember that. lasted for some years00:13
joacimI only use unicode, so it isn't a big deal00:16
joacimand I'm not going to generate a bunch of locales00:16
joacimbut I think it is nice to do things "right"00:17
dxlr8rso how will you solve it? I am curious00:17
joacimdetect one of those ssh variables I guess00:21
dxlr8rit still has to be generated00:25
joacimI will only use a few00:25
joacimso i don't have to00:25
joacimI just wnat to do it right00:25
joacimIt is a hangup, not a big deal =)00:25
dxlr8rcrux default is en_GB.utf8 :P00:28
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joacimlooks like my idea is kinda fucked00:31
joacimoh well00:32
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joacimlast time I looked, the default was ISO-8859-1 =)00:33
joacimit is an old install tho00:33
dxlr8r:)00:34
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joacimthing is, ssh has a SendEnv variable00:36
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prologicwoot woot docker 1.3 is out01:55
prologicand it’s all kinds of uber cool :)01:55
prologichaha01:55
prologicor night if I have the energy :)01:55
joacimThat's almost as cool as my second Voodoo202:06
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prologicI know right :)03:41
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mimir1980Just got done install crux and couldn't be more than happy with the way it's setup.05:26
frinnstyay05:30
mimir1980Other than setting up my modules in rc.modules the install is quick05:30
mimir1980http://crux.ninja/updated-iso/crux-3.1-updated.iso is this official updated iso?05:37
frinnstyeah, its built by jaeger05:38
mimir1980Okay. Not much diffrence anway. Other than dhcpcd footprint mismatch and libepoxy05:40
frinnstyeah libepoxy & xorg was unfortunate05:41
frinnstbut worth it :)05:41
diverseshouldn't the updated iso be referenced/mirrored on crux.nu?05:49
mimir1980Seems the decsion libepoxy vs libglew was autoconf over cmake05:55
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mimir1980http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html been toying around with this latley in kvm06:29
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nweGood morning!07:32
frinnsthttp://imgur.com/NXSJsbM07:36
frinnstglorious!07:37
frinnsthttps://rms.sexy/07:37
mimir1980good morning soon to be good night :)07:41
nwehehe =)07:43
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diverseit's already evening here for me ;)08:32
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_root_hello @/09:51
_root_uname -a rturns Linux and gcc -v "COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.8.3/lto-wrappe"09:51
_root_why it is unknow and also just linux. where should i set to say Crux 3.1 X86_64 ?09:52
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: dovecot: update to 2.2.1410:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] libxml2: update to 2.9.210:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libxml2-python: update to 2.9.210:10
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cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: make: updated to 4.0.010:23
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: gcc: updated to 4.8.210:23
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: rc: removed btrfs-scan from rc. handle it with a udev rule instead10:23
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: libarchive: updated to 3.1.210:23
cruxbot[core.git/3.0]: Merge branch '3.0' into 3.110:23
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_root_?10:28
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frinnstanybody polish?11:35
frinnstChcielibysmy zaproponowac Panstwu nowa w Polsce forme reklamy swojej dzialanosci w nawigacjach samochodowych i smartfonowych.11:35
frinnstis that an actual sentence, or did someones cat just walk over the keyboard?11:35
dxlr8rI need to polish my car soon. but except from that no11:35
dxlr8rgoogle translate frinnst :)11:36
_root_What about ^^ unknow linux ?11:40
_root_unkown11:40
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frinnstgoogle it root12:10
frinnstdont touch it12:10
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frinnstcool, we had a blade server "die" on us12:39
frinnstwell, the ilo died, so no way of controlling it and since its required to power on its bricked now :)12:40
_root_frinnst: what?12:44
frinnst <_root_> What about ^^ unknow linux ?12:53
frinnstgoogle it12:53
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frinnsthttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/arch-29/strange-arch-string-%27x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu%27-on-arch64-658127/12:57
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: docker: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.013:07
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jaegerrotwang I think14:22
jaegerfrinnst: ^14:22
jaegersorry, had my buffer scrolled up14:22
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alancioRomster: skype seems to be screwed up16:02
alancioit doesn't show icons properly16:03
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diversefrinnst: google translate? It's not perfect but you can figure it out.17:30
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] wpa_supplicant: update to 2.318:33
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] jre: update to 1.7.0_7219:08
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_root_hello back19:30
_root_What's up?19:30
_root_and what's my answer?19:30
_root_uname -a to show crux instead of linux19:31
_root_and make and gcc showing unknow linux19:31
frinnstyour answer is: dont do it or you will break shit19:32
frinnstif you want to know why, use google19:33
diversefrinnst: is _root_ trying to upgrade gcc?19:33
frinnsti dont know19:33
frinnsti just think he believes "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu" is ugly19:34
_root_No I don't; i just want crux linux to be advertised throughout the system19:34
_root_YES19:34
_root_frinnst do all of you get that?19:34
frinnstyes19:35
frinnstits normal and expected19:35
frinnstand if you mess around with it without understanding what its about you will fuck shit up19:35
frinnstbut sure, if you want to patch a bunch of stuff go ahead19:35
_root_No I just asked because I thought I missed something. (during install) (:19:36
jaegernope, it's normal19:36
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diverse_root_: yeah, you would want to leave that alone and you wouldn't want to mess internal compiler stuff, as this is a source based distro19:40
_root_diverse I understand.19:44
_root_Folks; I am using BitchX19:44
_root_I did compile it here.19:44
_root_the latest trunk version19:45
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leo-unglaubhey :)20:07
leo-unglaubcould someone please update opt/nss from 3.17.1 to 3.17.2?20:07
dxlr8reasy to do yourself too :) just download the package and change the version in the Pkgfile20:17
diverseleo-unglaub: contact the maintainer, in this case, chat with frinnst here ;)20:18
leo-unglaubdxlr8r, that would not be very helpful for other people ...20:19
dxlr8ryeah, best thing is central maintenance, but it's a small distro so if you are unpatient you'll have to do things yourself sometimes20:32
frinnsthm, have i missed a release?20:38
frinnstyes I have, by several days20:39
frinnstthats not very good20:39
joacimThe alien will eat you next20:39
frinnstleo-unglaub: if you notice a port is out of date please feel free to email the maintainer (me in this case)20:41
leo-unglaubfrinnst: okay, i thought irc was quicker20:41
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Digitsometimes.  if lucky.20:43
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: nss: updated to 3.17.220:46
frinnstanyways, irc is *usually* good enough. but email is harder to miss20:49
diversefrinnst: well, I assume email notifies you faster?20:49
leo-unglaubfrinnst: thanks for the update, now my custom firefox aurora build works again :)20:51
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