IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2014-10-18

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diverseI need some cheering up, anything interesting happening lately?00:32
joacimthinking about getting a nice shed00:52
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xeirrranyone run fvwm here?08:54
xeirrrfrinnst can you share your desktop screenshot? :)08:55
_root_xeirrr why;08:59
xeirrr_root_: why about what? I want to mix someones config file with mine, so I can get by WM better. :)09:02
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alancioor... to make it worse09:04
mhehi guys, I am trying to set up xfce with icons, which themes do I need?09:04
xeirrrmhe: tango theme09:04
mhethanks, will try09:04
alancioanybody here uses skype?09:05
mheI don't09:05
xeirrralancio: ennnnn, yes, many times I got failure.09:08
alanciowhat kind of failure?09:08
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mheso I figured I need to add the nwe ports but it needs more then just creating a nwe.sync file, adding rwe to prt-get.conf and doing ports -u09:11
mhehow should the nwe.rsync file look like09:12
xeirrrfailure: colors don't match well09:12
mhefound the rsync file at the repo on but ports -u hangs at updating file list09:17
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_root_How could I set a crux repo on bitbucket?09:56
Romsterwhat skype issue? i see icons here.10:28
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xeirrrfrinnst: Nice! the font is terminus or something else?10:42
xeirrrfrinnst: Also the fluxbox style?10:43
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: whois: update to 5.2.111:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: cups-filters: update to 1.0.6111:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: sqlite3: update to 3.8.711:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: stunnel: update to 5.0511:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] php: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fcgi: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-fpm: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-mysql: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: mod_php: update to 5.5.1811:24
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: dhcpcd: update to 6.5.111:25
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: make: update to 4.111:25
nweis it someone more some get this message from ports -u... file has vanished in /crux-3.1/opt/11:36
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: hpcups: update to 3.14.1011:44
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: stfl: update to 0.2311:44
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-xcb-util: update to 0.4.011:51
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-xcb-util-image: update to 0.4.011:51
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: atk-32: 2.12.0 -> 2.14.012:10
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: libxml2-32: 2.9.1 -> 2.9.212:10
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: libxml2-python-32: 2.9.1 -> 2.9.212:10
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: mpg123-32: 1.20.1 -> 1.21.012:10
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: openssl-32: 1.0.1i -> 1.0.1j12:10
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: wine: 1.7.28 -> 1.7.2912:19
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: sqlite3-32: 3.8.6 -> 3.8.712:30
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: xorg-xcb-util-32: 0.3.9 -> 0.4.012:30
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leo-unglaubRomster: hey12:36
Romsterhi leo-unglaub12:37
leo-unglaubRomster: can you please upgrade your hexchat from 2.9.6 to 2.10.112:38
leo-unglaubit workes fine in my local version12:38
leo-unglauband then i found a bug in your tor port12:38
Romsteroh they finally updated it12:39
Romsterfigures when i do look nothing then when i don't look updates.12:39
leo-unglaubin the tor Pkgfile you try to chown tor:tor but those users dont exist on a new fresh system12:40
leo-unglaubRomster: thats why i have 40 RSS feeds just for releases *g*
Romsterleo-unglaub, pre-install script you haven't got install scripts enabled.12:41
Romsterleo-unglaub, i'm working on versionsort.com12:41
leo-unglaubinterresting project ... but isn't that what RSS is for?12:42
Romsteryes but not all projects have rss feeds?12:44
Romstersome use mailing lists some don't have either12:44
leo-unglaubhmm, i am not a big fan of github, but the fact that the have an extra release rss feed helped some people a lot *g*12:45
Romsterthere is ck4up that uses regex to grep versions out of web pages.12:45
Romstermy version sort tool uses regex to split out the versions off http/ftp12:46
leo-unglaubinterresting idea ... well your site is bookmarked ... :)12:46
Romsterits taking some time but i'll get there.12:47
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leo-unglaubRomster: okay, the tor thing was my fuck up ... but, the tor rc file checks for that here: tor-tsocks.conf12:49
leo-unglaubwith is not in the install package and the pre-install script12:49
Romsteroh i remember i did edit my system but i never added the changes into the tor package12:53
Romsterit used to exist12:53
Romsterload average: 10.67, 8.63, 5.5912:53
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Romsteroh i got around it by touching /etc/tor/tor-tsocks.conf12:57
leo-unglaubyes, a touch is enoiught ... i did the same locally12:59
leo-unglaubthe file just have to be there13:00
leo-unglaubso, i have to get some food .. see you later and thanks for fixing it13:00
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: hexchat: -> 2.10.1 new dependencies intltool iso-codes13:20
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: tor: -> remove file check for /etc/tor/tor-tsocks.conf from /etc/rc.d/tor13:31
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leo-unglaubi have a question. as far as i see it crux does not contain a crypttab file. how do you encrypt your external drives on your systems? du you create simple bash scripts that encrypt them?14:25
teK__there's no default mount/umount mechanism at all14:26
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leo-unglaubokay, so i write an udev rule that triggery my own decrypt script?14:26
teK__I use udevil, it maybe can to dmcrypt-volumes, too14:26
teK__*can do14:30
alanciois anybody here using skype?14:32
joacimlooking for someone to chat with?14:32
alanciono, its just that some update broke skype14:33
alanciobut I can't figure out which one14:33
joacimget any errors when you run it from a terminal?14:34
alanciolibpng warning: Application built with libpng-1.6.13 but running with 1.5.1814:34
alanciobut that's because I have 1.5.18 for the 32-bit version of libpng, and 1.6.13 for the 64-bit14:35
alancioit still runs, just that most icons are invisible14:35
alancioand it crashes on calls14:36
joacimI don't think the 64-bit library has anything to do with it14:36
joacimI don't know if skype has a build process, but if you can't rebuild skype, then you'll just have to downgrade your 32-bit libpng14:37
alancioyou can't build skype, it is distributed as a binary14:38
Romsterleo-unglaub, i bumpd tor and fixed that. no file needed there now.14:39
Romsteralancio, you never stay on.... what icon issue?14:39
leo-unglaubRomster: ah, you removed the file exists check ... thanks!14:39
Romsterleo-unglaub, yeah and bumped the version14:40
alancioRomster, do a sysup, skype will stop working14:40
Romsternow you tell me alancio14:40
leo-unglaubRomster: yep, already compiled it :) works fine ... but according to the log there would be a openssl improviment to make14:40
Romsteri already updated openssl-3214:41
leo-unglaubdid you enable the enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128 flag?14:41
Romsteroh that other improvment.. for openssl. yeah. i mentioned that in #crux-devel14:41
leo-unglaubah, i am not in that channel ... is it allowed for non devs as well?14:42
Romsteri don't have access to do that leo-unglaub but you can edit core/openssl add that option and rebuild it.14:42
leo-unglaubfor the client version of tor it's not that important, but on my relays i aleady have rebuild it14:43
Romsterah k14:43
leo-unglaubi am going to ask you guys for my own portstree on the site, maybe i upload the modified version there14:44
leo-unglaubtor works fine without enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128, it's just that the handshake is faster with it. on a client you dont notice, but on a high load relay you see some benefits in the cup usage14:44
Romsterjsut host your own i was thinking of making my own openssl port with some changes like that too for myself.14:47
Romsteralancio, this is all i got in my prt-get diff and skype is working.14:50
Romsterleo-unglaub, you can host a ports page anywhere and ask teK__ to be added to portsdb14:50
leo-unglaubRomster: thats exactly what i want to do ... i am currently configurating the rsyncd on my webserver14:51
Romsterso your liking crux by the sounds of it.14:52
leo-unglaubloving it! no systemd, an awesome package manger und simplicity ... under debian it was so hard to quickly recompile packages if you wanted to try a patch14:53
leo-unglaubwith crux it si much easier and cleaner ...14:53
leo-unglaubit's my new favourite linux :)14:53
alancioRomster: I'm checking14:55
Romsterjaegers work it'l see if your 32bit ports match versions with there 64bit counterparts.14:57
Romsteralancio, you did remove libjpeg and install libjpeg-turbo-3214:58
Romsteror you fixed this up long before this recent issue.14:58
mimir1980 Can I host my pkgfiles on google code?14:59
Romsterdon't see why not.14:59
leo-unglaubRomster: the only think i really don't like in crux is the complete lack of security when it comes to the packages .. they are not signed, not transported securily, .. manipilating a package download and injecting a bad tar archive and also manipulating the md5 checksum is relativly easy if they are not signed14:59
alancioRomster, I'm running another sysup14:59
alancioyour script compares the 64bit and 32-bit versions, are the 64-bit versions relevant?15:00
Romsteralancio, check rejmerge and revdep after too. but you probably know that already15:00
Romsterwell it uses the 64bit ports for the includes15:00
Romsterand in some specal cases the 64 bit and 32 bit ports use a stub header in the 64bit port to choose the correct 64 or 32 bit header files15:01
alancioRomster, about libjpeg, I have been using libjpeg-turbo a long time before it was in opt15:01
Romsterbut skype wont use any header files.15:01
Romsteralancio, and the -32 bit port of it too?15:02
alancioI just called it libjpeg, I don't understand why its called libjpeg-turbo in opt, since the API and ABI are compatible15:02
Romsterdunno frinnst did that so we all had to alter dependencies15:02
Romsteralso note i modded skype after teK__ added compat-32/apulse-3215:03
alancioRomster, I use pulseaudio-32 ;)15:03
Romsterand i made notes in skype/README15:03
Romsterif all the people your probably the only one <<15:04
alancioI think I found the problem, I share /usr/ports via NFS, and then ran ports -u on another machine that still had the 3.0 repos15:04
alancioI *think* that is what happened, I'll do another sysup and verify15:04
alancioby the way, you don't like pulseaudio? I have a love/hate relationship with it15:05
Romsteri dunno personally i just use alsa and was using jack but not everything uses jack.15:05
Romsteri'd prefer if everything used jack or alsa15:06
leo-unglaubufffff, packaging the gnunet takes hours ....15:07
Romsterhmm i just thought of something.15:07
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Romsteri could edit the /usr/bin/skype shell script to detect for pulseaudio-32 and use that instead of apulse-32 if found.15:08
Romsterif that helps you alancio15:08
alancio Romster, to be honest, I have my own port of skype15:08
Romsteryou'd still have to ignore apulse-32 dependency or ignore that.15:09
Romsterah ok15:09
Romsterrogue like me fork everything.15:09
alancioit is basically the same, just that I needed the new version15:09
Romsterwell i'm on the new version now.15:09
alancioplus the pulseaudio-32 thing, I never heard about apulse-32 before you mentioned it15:09
Romsteri did't until tek jsut added it to compat-32 and told me to bump skype. i was holding off because of that.15:10
Romsterwell if i can help with contrib/skype let me know.15:11
alanciothanks, I'll let you know once I finish15:11
Romsteroops i do see a issue too...15:13
alanciothe pulseaudio-32 vs apulse detection would be nice15:13
Romsterbut a different one and it's my scripting. and it wont affect unless you are passing prams to skype.15:13
Romstersure so whats thebest file to look for?15:13
Romster/usr/bin/pulseaudio-32 ?15:14
alanciothe daemon is /usr/bin/pulseaudio15:14
alanciothe 32-bit library: /usr/lib32/libpulse.so15:14
alancioyou should also set the env variable: PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=6015:15
alanciothat is the difference in my port15:17
Romsteroh export15:20
Romsterhmm shulnd't there be a file and /etc/profile.d/ or /etc/env.d/pulseaudio file for that or just throw it in /etc/profile15:20
frinnstholy hell pulseaudio still seems to suck15:21
frinnstI ran pulseaudio when i ran centos6 on my desktop at work way back15:21
frinnstI had two choices: silence or deafness15:22
Romsteralancio, that be good enough?15:23
Romsterhaha frinnst15:23
alanciothat is good15:26
alanciofrinnst: it takes some tuning15:27
alancioRomster, why do you quote $@?15:27
alanciommm seems to make no difference15:28
alancioah quoting is correct, in case of spaces in the args15:29
Romsterdoes it not need quoting?15:31
Romsteryeah i thought it was the right thing to do.15:31
alancioit is fine with quotes15:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: skype: update to allow use of pulseaudio-32 or apulse-32, se README for more details.15:32
Romsterdamn forgot an e15:33
alanciolibpng-32 is version 1.6.1315:35
alancioskype needs 1.5.x15:35
Romsterbinary -_-15:39
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: lxc: 1.0.3 -> 1.0.615:42
Romsterwhat was taht command to read the libs in a binary not readelf or something?15:42
Romsternope not for static15:43
Romsterah that yes.15:43
teK__satisfied? :)15:44
Romsterreadelf --dynamic /usr/bin/skype-bin15:46
Romsteruh kinda but now i remember readelf15:46
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Romsteri can't rememberhow i got the libray list nb readelf objdump -_-15:54
alanciolibmng doesn't build15:54
alancioits missing an include of stdio.h15:55
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RomsterLD_DEBUG=symbols,bindings /lib/ /usr/bin/skype-bin15:56
Romsterand a ton of details15:56
Romsterah damn you changes... shitworks when i build it then something else breaks it.15:56
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teK__alancio: =======> Building '/usr/ports/packages/libmng#2.0.2-1.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded.16:01
alancioshould be the same? try16:02
Romster=======> Building '/var/ports/packages/libmng-32#2.0.2-1.pkg.tar.xz' succeeded.16:04
Romsterprt-get: reinstalling libmng-32 2.0.2-116:04
Romsteri have to say it's working for me.16:04
alanciommm strange16:04
Romsterreadelf -d /usr/bin/skype-bin16:10
Romsterdoes not list libpng :/16:10
Romsterhow the heck do you get the full picture on what a binary requires16:10
Romsterhad a awesome commabnd and i forgot it16:10
teK__I don't think you can for sure16:11
alanciostrings /usr/bin/skype.bin |grep lib16:13
alanciostrings /usr/bin/skype.bin |grep lib.\*so16:13
Romstertarget="/usr/bin/skype-bin"; for symbol in $(nm -D $target | grep "U " | cut -b12-); do for library in $(ldd $target | cut -d ' ' -f3- | cut -d' ' -f1); do for lib_symbol in $(nm -D $library | grep "T " | cut -b12-); do if [ $symbol == $lib_symbol ]; then echo "Found symbol: $symbol at [$library]"; fi ; done; done; done;16:15
teK__that's just 'recursive', I also think that this does not catch libraries loaded during runtime using dlopen()16:17
Romsterstrings is pretty neat... looks like libpng might be a runtime loaded library16:17
teK__compare my (d)paste16:17
Romsteri was thinking of dlopen16:17
teK__the binary is not forced to do dlopen("/usr/lib/", ...)16:18
Romsterand i don't have any libpng 15 what soever and skype appears fine.16:22
Romstermaybe i can strace it16:22
alancioQt4 uses plugins16:23
Romster$ strace /usr/bin/skype-bin 2>&1 |grep libpng16:23
Romsteropen("/usr/share/qt4/lib32/", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)16:23
Romsteropen("/usr/lib32/", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 316:23
Romsterrecompile your qt4-3216:23
Romsterwith the later libpng-3216:24
Romsterthere's your sysup issue.16:25
alancioI did recompile qt4-32 before, but I'll do it again after my sysup finishes16:25
Romsterand why i never needed libpng15.so16:25
alancioI guess I compiled with when I had libpng-32 1.5.x16:26
Romsterremove libpng-32 and use the compat-32/libpng-3216:26
Romsterand because you got there revdep wont complain16:27
alanciothanks for your help16:27
Romsteri did't think i was going crazy!16:27
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alancionot yet anyway16:27
Romsteryour welcome.16:27
alanciobut keep maintaining 200 ports, and soon enough...16:27
Romstereh it's probably closer to 30016:27
Romsteri did get rid of a few.16:28
mhethanks for the help on xfce icons, tango-icon-theme did the trick16:28
alanciowe should have a page with statistics like that16:28
alancioand also, where people can put their ports out for grabs16:28
teK__it's 38316:28
teK__alancio: full ack :)16:28
Romsteri need to refresh that.16:28
mhenow I would like to get wicd on my topbar in xfce, anyone knows how? I added the daemon and I can start it from the menu as well16:29
RomsterteK__, that's not even counting compat-32 i do most of that but that's not much effort.16:29
teK__mhe: wicd-client puts itself into the bar, so just autostart it either from xinitrc, xfce or whatever you use16:29
teK__Romster: it's opt and contrib16:29
Romsterand jaege_r pitches in too.16:30
mheI see, so I just need to autostart wicd-slient16:31
teK__I did 1200 commits in contrib? Thank god, I have an alias for that :>16:31
teK__and another ~1200 in opt. phew, imagine all the time I saved <316:32
teK__wrong, 500 in opt. nevermind..16:33
teK__Romster: any plans on updating libva? :-)16:35
teK__holds my va-intel update :)16:35
Romsterah got that in the back of my mind and doing everything else.16:38
Romsterlooks into it16:42
Romsterthis damn wayland16:45
Romsterthats what i was gonna do testout wayland16:45
alanciohas anybody checked my --group patch for prt-get?16:49
alancioI sent it on August 28th 201316:49
alancioI also have a patch for pkgmk, to use curl16:53
Romsteri did see that one16:57
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gnuplot: silent source update by upstream, new md5sum17:10
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mimir1980  is this a good template to use with a git repo?17:26
alancioits no good17:30
alancioyou should checkout a particular revision17:31
mimir1980and just make my own tar17:32
alancioif you can afford it, it is the best option17:33
alanciotools like prt-get will get confused when they see version=`date +%Y%m%d`17:37
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mimir1980 I found a perfect example17:53
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: wayland: initial import18:03
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] libva: 1.3.1 -> 1.4.0 new dependency wayland18:07
RomsterteK__, ^18:08
nrxtxRomster: did you get the mesa3d changes in?18:08
nrxtxotherwise it will not be very usable :D18:08
Romsterno just the library backend wayland for now.18:08
Romsteri know that.18:08
Romsteralso you had a bunch of junk i stripped out.18:09
nrxtxin which port?18:09
Romsteronly depends on expat libffi18:09
Romsterin wayland18:09
Romstermaybe the compositor or something else needs the extra deps but wayland itself does not.18:10
nrxtxah ok thx18:11
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Romsterit's only to let the backend compile in libva for now.18:12
Romsteri'll work on it after sleeping.18:12
nrxtxif you import the other parts give me a short hint when i can remove them from my repo18:13
Romsterlet me guess i forgot the .footprint file -_-18:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libva: update footprint18:15
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Romsternew hexchat running18:18
Romsterafk zzz18:25
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teK__Romster: wayland?? -_-18:50
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cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: man-pages: updated to 3.7519:38
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cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: btrfs-progs: updated to 3.1720:03
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RooseveltGood afternoon can anyone tell me if this Pkgfile looks good
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frinnstyou can remove the "Packager" line20:59
frinnstits only really used when someone else adopts it20:59
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frinnstso its redundant at the moment20:59
RooseveltThanks! no /usr/doc and /usr/info?21:05
teK__I recommend using prt-utils' prtverify, Roosevelt21:07
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_root_Is it possbile to bring some color to crux shell?22:51
_root_prt-get and other system utilities?22:52
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teK__you could use something like (
joacimarch has some rice on their wiki as well23:02
teK__I use a modified pkgmk that hides everything going to stdout during compilation23:07
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mheanyone knwos what version of nss I need for a particular version of firefox?23:42
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frinnstthe firefox buildscript probably knows and will tell you23:42
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frinnstwhat firefox version are you wondering about?23:43
rmullBleh, my system now depends on wayland via mpv->ffmpeg->libva23:43
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frinnstso dont use mpv :>23:43
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mhebuilding 30.0 now with nss 3.14.323:44
rmullfrinnst: Yeah, or just use custom Pkgfiles, but I am too lazy to bother with all of that just for different configure options23:44
rmullSo I will just install wayland23:44
mheI am experimenting on an pentium-pro old laptop23:45
frinnstmhe: you could just use the bundled nss23:45
mheso far with gcc 4.7.4, patched glibc 2.17, libgmp 6.0.0a and binutils 2.23.2 I only needed to skip a few packages to build i323:46
frinnstif you download the precompiled firefox binaries from, firefox wont be using crux' nss (if you have that installed)23:46
mheah, so how do I build it then, now I was using the opt Pkgfiles (mostly from 3.1)23:47
frinnst    ac_add_options --with-system-nspr23:47
frinnst    ac_add_options --with-system-nss23:47
frinnstyou could remove those lines from the Pkgfile23:48
mhegreat, thanks23:48
frinnstyou might want to update to firefox 33 if you are building anyways.. 30 is pretty old and there are a shitload of security fixes in every firefox release23:48
mheso I just need to remove --with-system-nspr/nss and use a different sourcefile23:48
mhehow about esr?23:49
frinnstyeah esr works23:49
mhesame with the --with-system-nspr/nss removal23:49
frinnstthe pre-ui-fuckup esr is about to be expired i think, so you cant really stay on that for too long23:50
mhewill try that, thanks for the help23:50
frinnsti have a firefox-esr port available in the portdb23:50
frinnstrsync -aqz firefox-esr23:50
mhenext steps will be trying to update those packages that failed and had to use crux 2.8 or 3.0 Pkgfiles23:51
mheawesome :) will try that first23:51
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