IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2014-11-12

Smrtz|nix_I'm trying to install lilo, but it's returning an  error:  "/dev/ is a directory"00:04
Smrtz|nix_Am I supposed to unmount my /mnt before installing the bootloader?00:05
jaegeryou should configure it in /etc/lilo.conf first00:06
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: Ahh, I missed that step. thanks.00:06
Smrtz|nix_Just point root at /boot/vmlinuz?00:07
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: Oh, wait, nevermind, I figured it out.  Thanks.00:07
jaegernp. The error comes from lilo running into a comment in the config file00:12
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: Now it's erring about trying to may files from an unnamed device, but I've got boot pointed at /dev/sda, image pointed to /boot/vmlinuz, and root points to /dev/sda1.  Any ideas?00:16
jaegerWhat00:19
jaegerWhat's the exact error? I don't understand what you mean00:19
Smrtz|nix_Sec, I'll prtscreen00:24
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: http://imgur.com/QMKvPpZ00:26
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: here's my lsblk: http://imgur.com/QMKvPpZ00:27
jaegerare you using btrfs?00:30
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: Yes.00:30
jaegeris /boot on a separate partition that isn't btrfs?00:30
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: ...No, that's required isn't it?00:31
jaegerI'm no btrfs expert but I think lilo still doesn't work well with it as /boot00:31
jaegerso you could either use a separate /boot that's ext2/3/4 or use grub2 instead, maybe00:31
Smrtz|nix_jaeger: Ok, I'll fix that and switch to ext4 or something. Thanks.00:31
jaegernp00:32
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korihrmm01:10
korihave you guys looked into libressl?01:10
rmulljaeger: FWIW I booted a btrfs root with lilo01:20
rmullBut coincidentally my btrfs root also started throwing errors so I switched it to ext401:20
jaegerkori: back when it was released we talked about it a bit, not since then as far as I recall01:23
jaegerrmull: what was the trick to getting it working? (before it failed, I mean)01:24
korijaeger: hrm01:24
korii'm somewhat interested in replacing openssl with libressl but it has been a pain so far01:24
Romsterkori, it's not a drop in replacement and libressl 1.0 had a major bug with the randomness not being random.01:28
koriRomster: I'm aware01:29
koribut hrm01:29
koriI didn't think it'd be this difficult01:29
korimaybe in a couple months this scenario will change01:29
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rmulljaeger: Well, I have an ext2 /boot - could that have been why it worked?01:41
Romsterquite possibly projects will support libressl along with openssl01:41
jaegerrmull: that's exactly why it worked01:42
Romsterwhy not ext4 don't like a journal?01:42
rmullRomster: I don't need anything other than unwavering stability out of my /boot partition so I went with the simplest oldest tech01:43
rmullIt doesn't really experience much writing so I don't need a journal01:43
Romsterah probably not01:44
Romsterthink its a ext4 feature you can also tune2fs off.01:45
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Romsterafk02:02
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_root_hello folks; I need some info about acoc - Arbitrary Command Output Colourer05:05
_root_is it deprecated or do we have alternatives for it?05:05
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Roosevelthey anyone here run a chroot crux enviroment?05:54
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RomsterRoosevelt yes but of course don't hang around long enough07:16
_root_acoc?07:17
Romster_root_, just for coloring gcc/g++ compiles?07:18
_root_Romster: yes and a bit more like terminal stdr and such. top tracerout and ..07:19
Romsterhtop is colour already07:19
Romsterin contrib07:19
Romsterccze is in contrib colours stuff you pipe to it07:20
_root_Romster: you know what I mean; the un colored terminal!07:20
_root_Romster: the same as acoc?07:20
Romsteruncoloured?07:20
Romsteryou want colour prt-get depinst htop ccze07:21
_root_Romster: yes look here first  acoc is a regular expression based colour formatter for programs that display output on the command-line. It works as a wrapper around the target program, executing it and capturing the stdout stream. Optionally, stderr can be redirected to stdout, so that it, too, can be manipulated.07:22
_root_acoc then applies matching rules to patterns in the output and applies colour sets to those matches. A picture is worth a thousand words, so look at the sample screenshots in the next section.07:22
_root_http://www.caliban.org/ruby/acoc.shtml#files07:22
Romsterccze does that now.07:23
Romsterin contrib07:23
Romstersudo tail -f /var/log/messages |ccze -A07:24
_root_Romster: you say it does exactly what acoc used to do. so acoc is deprecated now?07:26
Romsteruse acoc if you like. you'll just have to package it07:26
Romsterdon't know never seen acoc before07:26
_root_Romster: It seems outdated; I don't know if it even builds anymore.07:27
Romsteronly one way to find out07:27
Romsterfor compiles i was using pretty_make07:28
_root_Romster: I am searching about 3hrs now and you basically install acoc and add it at the top of your $PATH. then it catches stdr and spits out tyhe colored version to stdout?07:28
_root_sorry !/?07:28
Romsterthat is what i gather by the screenshots07:29
_root_Romster: So is it the exact same ccze does?07:30
Romsterccze you pipe stuff to it. that's the only way i've used it.07:30
Romsteryou'll have to do some research07:31
Romsterman page site source code07:31
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: pulseaudio: Fixed pulseaudio as a dependency. Closes FS#1036.07:42
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alancioRomster: are you there?07:43
alanciothe skype port has a bug: the wrapper script is created by shell redirection, and the indenting tab ends up messing up the script07:47
alancioand also, the dollar sign in "\$@" should not be escaped07:51
alancioand I would change #!/bin/bash to #!/bin/sh, because you don't use any bash features07:52
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: at-spi2-core: updated to 2.14.108:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: libffi: updated to 3.208:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: dbus: updated to 1.8.1008:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gtk3: updated to 3.14.508:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: firefox: updated to 33.108:08
mhemore updates, cruxbot is busy!08:16
_root_mhe: why?08:20
_root_it tells new ports08:20
prologicthose aren't new :)08:35
prologicI tend to commit with git commit -m "<port> (NEW): <desc>" if the port is indeed new to that collection :)08:35
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] flash-player-plugin: updated to 11.2.202.41108:40
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alekstjSorry. Please add package slang in ports and remove '--disable-nls' in ports.Thanks11:08
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pitilloxD11:54
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prologicAnyone know if there's a way to tell esmtp not to overwrite the From header when delivering mail?12:24
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prologicoh looks like my .procmailrc was rewriting the from:12:29
prologicnevermind :)12:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libjpeg: replaced by libjpeg-turbo12:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libmng: updated to 2.0.212:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: libpng: updated to 1.6.712:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: gvim: upate to 7.4.9412:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.0]: apr: update to 1.5.0, apr-utils: update to 1.5.312:29
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juefhello14:13
juefi've just wrote a script14:13
juefit is an alternative to portdbc ;)14:14
juef http://chiselapp.com/user/juef/repository/prtdb/14:14
Romsterjuef, there is also this http://portdb.zero-io.net/14:22
juefthis is client for portdb.zero-io.net14:23
Romsteroh poke nrxtx he wrote that site.14:23
juefhe knows;14:28
juefhere wrote just for all other ;P14:28
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Romsterah the API thats the same thing nrxtx showed me awhile ago14:33
Romsterlooks nearly typed out.14:33
Romsterneatly*14:33
juefi don't know what is better14:37
juefinfo <repo>/<port>14:37
juefor14:37
juefinfo <repo> <port>14:37
Romstereh i not looked into it but i like info <repo>/<port>14:38
Romsterbut then info <repo> <port> might be better. don't know and i'm heading to bed14:39
Romsterg'night14:39
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frinnsthttp://new.livestream.com/accounts/362/events/354409115:36
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joacim"Disconnected. Reconnecting in 1s..."15:50
joacimaw15:50
joacimI wanted to see that15:50
frinnsti had no luck using firefox. might be a flash issue15:50
frinnstworks with chromium with pepepr15:50
frinnstpepper15:50
joacimyeah it works now in chrome15:51
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frinnstweee16:03
frinnsttouchdown motherfuckers16:03
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rmullhmmm.... having some update failures...19:43
rmullrelated to dbus19:43
leo-unglaubhey :)19:44
rmullinstalling dbus failes because /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so doesn't exist (provided by dbus-glib). Installing dbus-glib fails because /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so doesn't exist (provided by dbus)19:45
rmullcircular dependency detected?19:45
rmullshould I install the libdbus-1.so symlink to point to the older version of libdbus (3.8.7, in this case)19:47
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rmullSeems like it worked - installed symlink, updated dbus-glib, updated dbus, then updated dbus-glib again20:28
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korisup22:02
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rmullI wish there was a faster way to speed up configure scripts22:12
korirmull: it's sad we don't have ./configure -j522:13
korihaha22:13
rmullYeah, no kidding22:14
rmullMan, this latest round of updates is not good22:16
rmullNow xorg needs wayland22:16
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korirmull: do you not like wayland?22:17
rmullkori: It's got nothing to do with whether or not I like it. I don't use it or need it, and xorg-xserver depends on it - except the wayland port was pulled, so you can't build it anyway22:17
koriah22:18
koriwell, my question was separate22:18
rmullI'm not going to bother reading enough about it to form an opinion. My window manager is dwm, which does not have a wayland port22:19
rmullIf dwm gets a wayland port, then maybe I will become interested22:19
korirmull: I've faced the same problems, haha22:20
koriwell, as long as the programs get ported, it's fine22:20
korixwayland helps with the transition22:21
rmullIt's not a problem if my window manager keeps working22:22
rmullI don't care what's on the backend, xorg or wayland22:22
rmullI don't want to lose productivity over a "transition" though22:22
korirmull: that is true but I can assure you22:22
koriwhen everything you use is ported to wayland, and when you start using it, you WILL care22:23
korithe performance improvements are significant22:23
rmullMy performance needs are minimal22:23
korisame22:23
rmullI think I bitched to Romster about the introduction of the wayland dependency last time he pushed it, and then he pulled it but probably forgot about it before xorg port was updated22:25
rmullRomster: FWIW if it's for the greater good, I don't care about the wayland dep22:26
Worksteri built xorg-servre without wayland22:28
Worksterpastebin please22:28
Worksteri've done a sysup my system has no wayland it works on xorg22:29
rmullHuh, okay, maybe something funky with my env then, one sec, I'll retry22:30
Worksteri only added wayland for some library that i had to revert the version that prevents intel vdpau from being updated. but caused more problems than itwas worth22:30
korirmull: wait, what xorg version are you talking about?22:31
koriI built xorg-server 1.16.2-1 with no problems22:31
rmullMust be me, then22:32
Worksteri have a phone to work on bbl22:32
Worksterkeep me posted22:32
rmullI reinstalled the wayland port and installed xorg-server successfully (it had been failing before due to not finding libwayland-client.so or something)22:33
rmullNow I unistalled the wayland port and rebuild xorg-server, and it didn't fail22:33
koriheh22:34
rmullkori: Do you have /usr/lib/libwayland-*22:34
korirmull: nope22:35
rmullOh, I think I see what happened22:35
rmullI think I had crud left over from the previous wayland port that got removed from ports22:35
rmullso xserver tried to turn on wayland support, but not all the supporting wayland files were there22:35
rmullanyway, things are fine now22:36
rmullam I the only one that had the dbus upgrade issue too?22:36
koriI haven't upgraded dbus yet22:36
korithat is, if you're talking about 1.8.8-1 -> 1.8.10-122:37
rmullnot sure where I started, but that is the ending version22:37
koriwell, i'm going to try updating to see if there's any problems22:38
korino errors here, chief22:39
rmullvery interesting22:39
rmullmust be a result of my backup/restore of root partition22:39
rmullWell, I made a lot of noise today and I am sorry all.22:39
koridon't worry22:39
rmullWorkster: You're good to go re: xorg/wayland, PEBKAC22:42
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rmullhow much RAM do I need to build firefox these days?23:13
rmullI have 16G but I am suspicious that my linker just got OOMed23:13
joacimI had no problems compiling it with 8GB23:16
joacim4GB seemed like enough when I did it last year23:17
tklnat least firefox 24.8 builds fine on tmpfs with 8GB of ram23:18
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mechaniputerI built a crux iso today. Took awhile. I'm pretty happy it works.23:44
rmullmechaniputer: good job23:58

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