IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2015-02-19

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koriprologic: you around?01:05
korioh NICE torsocks got added01:05
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koriprologic: go 1.4.2 came out01:10
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rmullWoot, removed the rump LED from my razer deathadder mouse01:42
Romstertoo bright?01:52
Romster new build going up.01:52
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prologickori: cool thanks02:10
rmullRomster: It did this annoying throb for no reason at all02:17
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prologiclet's rack up my Gbps sw07:00
Romsterrmull, guess to add bling.07:18
tired890prologic, managed?07:30
prologictired890, you bet07:36
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frinnstwhat switch did you get?08:33
frinnstalso, are you mounting it at home?08:34
Romsterfrinnst, why does core/automake list perl08:51
Romsterfinddeps automake, does not list gawk, perl, or autoconf08:55
Romsterwasn't the rule only list ore ports if the port links to it. but never gcc, glibc and binutils08:56
Romsterhmm think i'll file a bug report for this than to do it unofficial.08:58
Romster/usr/ports/opt/p5-xml-parser also lists perl which is wrong.08:58
Romster ok there it is.09:06
Romsterbuild dependencies provided by core are not listed in the dependency header09:06
Romsterrun-time dependencies from core which aren't dynamically linked in are not to be listed, either09:06
Romsterfudge this was meant to be in #crux-devel -_-09:10
frinnstnot sure. was perl always in core?09:20
frinnstlike, way back09:20
frinnstpre 2.209:21
Romsterafaik it has been09:32
prologicI'm back09:40
prologicam i?09:40
prologic[  3] local port 48442 connected with port 500109:41
prologic[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth09:41
prologic[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  1.10 GBytes   942 Mbits/sec09:41
frinnsttcp or udp?09:41
Romsternow if only the internet was that fast09:45
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prologicTCP I think10:02
prologicwhatever the default is10:02
prologicsender: # iperf -c
prologicreceiver: # iperf -s -i enp3s010:02
frinnstwhat switch did you get?10:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: task: update to 2.4.110:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: squid: update to 3.5.2, improved rc script10:12
prologicthis one10:32
frinnstfor home use or at work?10:35
frinnstIm installing a fresh XP machine for use with old java versions10:36
frinnstits like my soul is getting raped :(10:36
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frinnst24 ports for home use? :D10:53
prologicyeap :)10:55
prologicalready using 9 of them10:55
Romsterfrinnst, rofl man why11:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: cryptography: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: six: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: cffi: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: pycparser: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: enum34: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: pyasn1: initial import11:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: [notify] pyopenssl: 0.11 -> 0.14, new dependency cryptography, which pulls in: pyasn1, enum34, pycparser, cffi, and six11:13
Romsterbefore anyone says anything. i got permission from mike to bump what is broken. (pyopenssl) and this is needed for new pyopenssl. for deluge to work.11:15
Romsteri cheated with pip install.11:15
Romsterbut because deluge is packaged i need these as packages.11:15
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frinnstyuck deluge needs the entire internet?11:34
frinnstoh well, its your time to waste ;)11:34
Romsternot quite it's python based.11:35
Romsterblame pyopenssl changing drastically11:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: pycparser: add dependency setuptools11:44
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Romsterfrinnst, not that bad only 50MB of built dependencies for deluge
Romstermajority most would have already12:40
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: xorg-server: update readme13:00
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Guest99580shit, weechat how to change username13:45
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Guest99580username change temporarily unavailable13:47
Guest99580ok well, hello guys I'm greduan13:47
eduanall right now I'm eduan13:48
Romsteryou might be on a channel that does not allow name changes.13:48
eduanthis one13:48
eduanI'm doing a username change only for here13:48
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eduanI reserved a CRUXLinux Steam group, because might as well14:29
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thetornainbowoh nice16:52
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diversethetornainbow: which part?17:09
thetornainbowgtk3 built finally :)17:09
thetornainbowand mpv always takes a while too17:10
diversegtk3, ewww17:11
diversempv doesn't take that long17:11
diverseI would think gtk2 would take longer than mpv17:14
thetornainbowit does17:16
thetornainbowall of gtk* is ewwww, but unfortunately there's not much else17:17
diverseI can understand that opinion, as I have a friend who didn't like the gtk1 to gtk2 transition a long time ago, however, gtk2 in comparison to gtk3, makes gtk2 look like a master piece.17:18
thetornainbowagreed. i love QT but C++ is.... unpleasant i think17:19
diverseI mean the delta degree in shitty-ness is just that much stronger17:21
diversewell even though qt is written in C++, I came to appreciate it more and matured out of my gtk-only world.17:22
diverseit's not about the language it's written in, it's about the quality of the product17:24
diversehowever it does prevent you from wanting to contribute to the project if you don't understand or like the language.17:24
thetornainbowthat's true. i think it's a great framework17:27
diverseand most of the time as a user, you are just using it anyway17:29
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diversewhen Rust matures, I look forward to writing a gui app using the Piston framework17:33
thetornainbowooh i haven't seen that17:37
diverseoh excuse me, I mean Conrod, which uses the Piston graphics engine17:40
diversethetornainbow: here is an old demo:
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diverseRomster: those names came from parts of a car?17:47
diverseI guess, hence, they together make part of an "engine" heh17:52
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thetornainbowdiverse: that's very cool. although are they just demoing the responsiveness of the underlying framework? i'm not sure what benefit that would have in a real environment.18:10
diversenot just the responsiveness, but what you could do with it18:11
diverseanyway, that wasn't the key point of the demonstation18:12
thetornainbowyeah, i understand just musing a bit18:12
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diversethetornainbow: looks like they have theming on their radar18:14
diverseas the next thing to do18:14
diversethetornainbow: so hopefully you have something to look forward to in regards to a gui applications18:21
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: util-linux: updated to 2.2618:22
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vlnxI just tracked down a bug I've had for a few months.21:37
vlnxThe webkit ports should have opt/shared-mime-info as a dependency.21:37
eduanGlad you found that :)21:49
Romsterand what does that do?21:50
vlnxfor webkit to properly show a local file, not using text/plain21:51
Romsteri don't even have shared-mime-info installed and it works21:51
Romsternever noticed that21:51
Romsterguessing it requires a brebuild after that dep21:51
vlnxno, it's not a build dep21:52
Romstersee ifit does not link i don't ususally spot it unless its some functionaly i use21:52
Romsteri'll look at it after work vlnx21:53
vlnxthe webkit inspector was failing, then I noticed that local html files were shown as text/plain21:53
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eduandvtm/abduco issue has been fixed, FYI
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