IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2015-03-02

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Romstercinolt, https://crux.nu/Main/PortGuidelines#ntoc201:52
Romstermuseur, did you find the probelm of the curly brace? did you rejedit something wrongly?01:56
Romsterproblem*01:56
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greduangood night y'all03:49
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hnodehow prt-get knows from wich port a installed package is ?05:11
hnodein /var/lib/pkg/db only have name and version05:12
jaegerit doesn't05:12
hnodehumm05:12
jaegerit makes the assumption (not always true) that the first match based on the order of prtdir statements is the correct one05:12
hnodeI was thinking that,05:12
hnodeIm learning C, I was playng parsing pkgmk.conf and prt-get.conf05:13
nilpis there a reason it doesn't care?05:49
nilpsomething like portage where you can use collection/port would be cool.05:49
prologicI think it's fine the way it is05:51
prologicit allows you to define the order of collections and the priority they have05:51
prologicso if you want to override stuff put your own personal prtdir up higher in the list05:51
nilpwhat about a -c collection option or something to specify the collection to use?06:06
nilpsuppose you can just cd then pkgmk if you want a specific one.06:06
prologicgod I hate yum06:12
prologicwhy does it have to d an update every f'n time06:12
prologicyou learn to really appreaicet the separation of ports -u followed by prt-get ... in crux06:13
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museurRomster nope, that parse error was from zsh and unrelated but main problem persists.07:01
Romsterhow...07:01
Romsterso you still get that } ?07:02
Romsterafter you login with password?07:03
museurYaeh but besides maintenamce shell problem I couldnt take time for it yet07:03
Romsterif it as a fstab issue you'd be dropped to a shell before07:03
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Romsteri would try pkgadd -u rc....07:04
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Romsterthen rejmerge07:04
Romsteralso look in dmesg07:05
museurDmesg is fine.07:05
Romsterafter logging into root shell07:05
museurThere is only a unrelated alsa problem07:06
Romsterrhat can be solved by making alsa as a module for the sound card07:06
Romsterfor some reason it doesn't work for me as built in07:07
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diverseRomster: could you update youtube-dl?08:40
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Romsterdiverse, sure09:04
diversethanks09:04
Romsterjust doing a ton of stuff here. reorganizing.09:04
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: youtube-dl: 2015.02.04 -> 2015.02.2809:23
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diversethanks09:24
diverseRomster: I got that same weird NEW MISSING mismatch again with "youtube_dl-2015.2.28-py2.7.egg-info" vs "youtube_dl-2015.02.28-py2.7.egg-info" so I'll just go ahead and ignore it09:27
diversesomething about that egg-info...09:29
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Romsterfor gods sakei'll do it ina docker image09:37
Romstermy system dose something stupid to python eggs09:37
Romsteri do not know why09:37
diverseah I'm lagging09:41
diversephew, saved09:43
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: youtube-dl: fix .footprint10:21
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leo-unglaubhey :)11:40
leo-unglaubi took a vacation day today so i could spend more time working on the xfce 4.12 ports :)11:41
leo-unglaubit comes along very nicley :)11:41
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Romsterleo-unglaub, cool i look forwared to testing.12:16
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cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-dev-tools: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: libxfce4util: updated to 4.12.112:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfconf: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: tumbler: updated to 0.1.3112:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: libxfce4ui: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: exo: updated to 0.10.312:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: garcon: updated to 0.4.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-panel: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-appfinder: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfdesktop: updated to 4.12.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: ristretto: updated to 0.8.012:43
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: thunar-volman: updated to 0.8.112:43
leo-unglauboh come on ......................12:46
leo-unglaubnow he pushed this ...12:46
leo-unglaubnow i did it for nothing :(12:47
leo-unglaubthis is starting to piss me off12:47
frinnstlol12:50
leo-unglaubhe cannot reply to an email in weeks, cannot join a channel and then he pushes things that break again12:53
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leo-unglaubbecause you cannot update then after another ... you have to update them at once ... otherwize you build stuff against the old api and then they break again ...12:56
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-terminal: update to 0.6.312:58
Romsteri honestly don't understand that guy ever since he got married and had a child.13:32
Romstersure he has real life stuff but is it hard to come on irc a bit.13:32
leo-unglaubi mean i understand that a little child is very much work ... i had one myself once ... but replying to an email ...13:33
leo-unglaubthats all i ask13:33
leo-unglaubalso i dont like thinks half done ... what he did results in a broken desktop agaib13:33
leo-unglaubthats why i was working on getting eveything uptodate at once13:33
Romsteryeah he just breaks it by half doing it.13:36
Romsterjust keep working on your fork of it and then merge it back after it's done.13:36
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: clang: fix file conflicts with llvm, update footprint14:03
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] libgcrypt: update to 1.6.314:11
EmoSpiceHello, all14:24
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sepenhi14:25
sepenis interesting to read the comments made towards me :D14:25
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greduanmorning guys14:33
EmoSpiceHey.14:35
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Romsterwe miss you sepen isn't the same without you.14:45
jawbomorning!14:53
Romsterhi15:04
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jawbobusy weekend for the linux folks15:09
jawbonew xfce, new lts and mainline kernel upgrades15:10
jawbosheesh :)15:10
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Romsterits work in progress.15:12
Romsterbeen very busy15:12
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crash_have 2 questions, is there any good volume applet for fluxbox? and second how do i change the default soundcard/interface in alsamixer, beacause everytime i open alsamixer the spdif is the first 1, however i want to change to interface 2 when i start alsamixer :)15:16
greduandid Linux 4.* get released?15:16
greduanor are you talking about 3.19?15:17
frinnst4.0-rc ?15:18
jawboyeah, 4.0-rc1, 3.18.815:18
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greduanwhat's the command for listing the dependencies of a package? I remember there was such a ting, in order to make it easier to install dependencies...15:23
greduanI'm talking about a package in which I can't use prt-get, of course. :)15:23
jawboldd will show you what it links to, something like finddeps in pkgutils too15:30
Romsterfinddeps15:32
Romsterprt-get deptree foo15:32
Romsteraldo if oyur adding dependencies to a Pkgfile then also check with findredundantdeps -s15:33
Romsterbut that later command means prtdir in prt-get.conf has to be able to see that Pkgfile.15:34
greduangonna take note of all those commands15:38
greduanthanks :)15:38
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Romster:)15:50
Romsterhandy to know those.15:50
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: llvm: 3.5.1 -> 3.6.018:46
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: clang: 3.5.1 -> 3.6.018:46
frinnstwasnt llvm/clang already updated?18:56
frinnstoh, from 3.4.x18:56
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] llvm: add note about major updates and dependent graphic's drivers19:24
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: llvm-32: 3.5.1 -> 3.6.019:54
koriUGH19:55
koriI just finished compiling 3.5.1 haha19:55
nwehehe :)20:01
jawbokori: the first time wasn't good enough :)20:01
nweI doing an sysup from crux-3.1 to latest :P on my intel nuc... taking loooooong time..20:01
jaegernwe: using an updated ISO will save some time20:03
greduanCRUX 3.1 ISO still has a very old kernel though20:04
jaegereasy to install your own kernel20:04
nwejaeger: I using the latest crux 3.1 I found on the mirror list..20:05
jawboyep20:05
jaegernwe: for future reference, http://crux.ninja/updated-iso/20:06
nweoh nice :)20:07
nwejaeger: maybe have a link on crux.nu about updated-iso.. ?20:07
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diversenwe: that's what I have been asking him for while20:08
jaegerIt's unofficial so never really pushed it. I'll revisit it after vacation20:08
greduanupdated iso?20:08
greduanwhat it do? :320:09
diverseJust put an "Unofficial Update ISO" section and with the link on the site20:09
jaegergreduan: it's just an ISO with packages updated to the day it's built20:10
greduancool20:10
greduandoes it also have updates like the new start-stop-daemon stuff?20:10
jaegerIf they would go on the ISO, yes20:11
greduancool :320:12
greduanwill use that next install for sure20:12
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: mesa3d: added patch for llvm 3.620:54
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